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rehn(at)rockisland.com
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 12:53 pm Post subject: Tire change

I am going to change my tire and tube and was looking to recommendation for lifting aircraft to remove tire. I have a hoist-crane that I could lift at the engine or engine mount. Would that cause any issues or too much stress at attach points? Thanks for help  

   

Jerry  

914 Mono  

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terrys(at)cisco.com
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 2:11 pm Post subject: Tire change

Hi Jerry,

  

 Another option for removing the monowheel wheel is a  simple wood jacking block, as seen in the following Europa mods  link;

  

 http://terryseaver.home.comcast.net/N135TD_mods.htm

  

 Look at the section titled; Mono-wheel jacking  block

  

 regards,

 Terry Seaver

  



   From: owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry  Rehn

Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 1:49 PM

To:  europa-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Tire  change

 

  

I am going to change my tire and  tube and was looking to recommendation for lifting aircraft to remove tire. I  have a hoist-crane that I could lift at the engine or engine mount. Would that  cause any issues or too much stress at attach points? Thanks for  help 

  

Jerry 

914  Mono

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willie.harrison(at)tinyon
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Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 9:21 am Post subject: Tire change

Likewise I have to change tyres on my trigear, so any advice on jacking a trike would be welcome.

Willie Harrison, G-BZNY

On 4 May 2007, at 21:49, Jerry Rehn wrote:

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I am going to change my tire and tube and was looking to recommendation for lifting aircraft to remove tire. I have a hoist-crane that I could lift at the engine or engine mount. Would that cause any issues or too much stress at attach points? Thanks for help

 

Jerry

914 Mono

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kheindl(at)msn.com
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Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 1:01 pm Post subject: Tire change

Whenever I need to work on the wheels, I push a suitable steel rod (not sure 

about the diameter)

into the hub, and then put a jack underneath at the far end. To remove the 

wheel you move it outboard next to the jack, then put a support on the 

inboard side, and lower the jack. Sounds complicated but is dead simple.



Karl





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		  From: William Harrison <willie.harrison(at)tinyonline.co.uk>

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To: europa-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: Tire change

Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 18:20:34 +0100



Likewise I have to change tyres on my trigear, so any advice on  jacking a 

trike would be welcome.



Willie Harrison, G-BZNY

On 4 May 2007, at 21:49, Jerry Rehn wrote:



>I am going to change my tire and tube and was looking to  recommendation 

>for lifting aircraft to remove tire. I have a hoist- crane that I could 

>lift at the engine or engine mount. Would that  cause any issues or too 

>much stress at attach points? Thanks for help

>

>Jerry

>

>914 Mono

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topglock(at)cox.net
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Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 2:41 pm Post subject: Tire change

Willie,

 

 Using a short 6x6, on top of a hydraulic floor jack it place the 6x6 just inboard of the leg and jack up one side at a time.  Never had any problems with lifting this way...

 

 Jeff - Baby Blue

 

 William Harrison wrote: [quote]Likewise I have to change tyres on my trigear, so any advice on jacking a trike would be welcome.      

   Willie Harrison, G-BZNY

      

   

      On 4 May 2007, at 21:49, Jerry Rehn wrote:

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I am going to change my tire and tube and was looking to recommendation for lifting aircraft to remove tire. I have a hoist-crane that I could lift at the engine or engine mount. Would that cause any issues or too much stress at attach points? Thanks for help     

      

Jerry     

914 Mono     

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paul.mcallister

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 177
Location: Waukesha, WI USA

Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 7:52 am Post subject: Tire change

Hi  all.

  

 For  what its worth I always travel with my jacking block.  I have had one  incident where my tube  blew out on landing at an airport away from my home  base. It would have been very difficult to deal with the situation had I not had  a jacking block with me.

  

 To  give you an idea I had 5 hefty guys to help be move my aircraft and it  was a major effort to move it the 3 ~ 4 meters required to clear the  airstrip.

  

 Paul

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willie.harrison(at)tinyon
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 8:23 am Post subject: Tire change

How does anyone rate tyre inflation/sealing aerosols for emergency get-you-home application?

On 5 May 2007, at 14:48, Paul McAllister wrote:

[quote]Hi all.

 

For what its worth I always travel with my jacking block.  I have had one incident where my tube  blew out on landing at an airport away from my home base. It would have been very difficult to deal with the situation had I not had a jacking block with me.

 

To give you an idea I had 5 hefty guys to help be move my aircraft and it was a major effort to move it the 3 ~ 4 meters required to clear the airstrip.

 

Paul

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rampil

Joined: 04 May 2007
Posts: 870

Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 8:44 am Post subject: Re: Tire change

I am with Karl in tire changing technique.

I have a nicely primed and painted 1" steel bar about 18" long to slide

inside the axle.  Several steps but not hard.  An actual trigear jack point

would have been a nice design feature.



Its time, after about 70 flight hours to replace my main tires again.

I've been using new Goodyear Flight Special II tires and these prime

tires last fewer than 400 landings on concrete, both sides losing outboard tread at a prodigious rate.  



I wish there were a practical fix to this design "feature" as it is a bit pricey.

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Ira N224XS

carl(at)flyers.freeserve.
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 1:28 pm Post subject: Tire change

The jacking block is a great idea but if you are  without one there is another easy solution.

  

 Most jacks kits (aka Halfords) and calso ars come  with foldable metal wheel chocks.

  

 Open out the chock as you would with a car and hold  the face of the chock (which would normally face the wheel) against the  underside of the swinging arm such that the top edge of the chock sits against  the two boltheads which protrude from the underside of the arm. They are  only about 3mm in depth but it is sufficient to support the weight of the  aircraft.

  

 The jack is then placed underneath the chock and as  long as pressure is applied it will hold the chock in place and enable the  wheel to be jacked off the deck and removed for repair.

  

 Because the chock is made of thin guage mild steel  it will seat itself against the bolt heads and there is little chance of  being displaced. None the less it would be sensible to support the swinging  arm with a block of wood while the wheel is away being fixed.

  

 Its not as good as the proper block (discussed in  this forum) but as I said it is a readily available solution which will get you  out of a fix.

  

 I have used it a couple of times as I have had  problems with the hydraulic brake cylinder siezing and locking up the  brake.

  

 Carl Pattinson

  

 G-LABS

  

  

  

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graham(at)pocock56.fsnet.
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 2:23 am Post subject: Tire change

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lgds(at)post6.tele.dk
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 3:16 am Post subject: Tire change

- I carry one in my AC.... could help me get home to tea one day./Gert  

OY-GDS/mono/914





Den 07/05/2007 kl. 12.22 skrev Graham:

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raimo.toivio(at)rwm.fi
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 5:27 am Post subject: Tire change

I had a situation during our maiden  flight:

 the tire was inflated couple of years ago 

 and checked just before take off  but after 

 this happy flight we noticed  it was almost empty! 

 So, we completed our maiden flight with broken  tire!

  

 We repaired /inflated it by using aerosol and  filled

 until tire´s pressure was 1,5 bar. So far it has been  OK.

 After this experience I am going to carry  tire

 inflation aerosol always with me. I am not  sure

 but think it mades a permanet fixation - not  only

 temporary to get home. So I rates  it high! 

 And cheap!

 And fast! 

 And easy! 

 And clean!

  

 Wishes, Raimo

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raimo.toivio(at)rwm.fi
Guest

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 6:14 am Post subject: Tire change

I have a new spare can and weighted  it:

 just 261 grams (=0,575 lbs).

  

 Raimo

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mikenjulie.parkin(at)btop
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 10:36 am Post subject: Tire change

While they work admirably, the tyre inflating  aerosols have one major drawback - if the experience with my Peugeot 206 is  anything to go by.

  

 The 206 does not come with a spare tyre, so I used  the supplied aerosol to get me home.  It worked brilliantly, but when I  took the offending item to the tyre place to have it repaired, I was told that  after using the aerosol it was impossible to repair.  I had to buy a new  tyre.

  

 Expensive puncture.

  

 regards,

  

 Mike

  

 Do not archive

  

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rparigor(at)suffolk.lib.n
Guest

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 11:39 am Post subject: Tire change

For what it's worth, I remember hearing on a Monowheel you can remove

starboard wing, starboard stabilator, put seat cushions under the fuse and

roll plane on side and lift wheel off ground to fix flat.



Never tried yet, but may worthy remembering in a "Pinch".



Ron Parigoris

ami(at)mcfadyean.freeserv
Guest

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 12:02 pm Post subject: Tire change

Some tyre fitters charge extra for a (tubeless)  tyre change if sealant has been used; they claim it's a mucky job!

  

 Duncan McF

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raimo.toivio(at)rwm.fi
Guest

Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 2:28 am Post subject: Tire change

I have thought it is not only to get  home

 - repair should be permanent until a next

 puncture happens. In my case my tyre has 

 been OK after aerosol, so far. And  if not, 

 inner tyres are not expensive. 

  

 Att least I have in my mono an  inner tyre...

  

 Regards, Raimo

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willie.harrison(at)tinyon
Guest

Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 4:06 am Post subject: Tire change

It is brilliant stuff, BUT, can I sound a note of caution from personal experience?

A tin of it once got me almost home after a blow out on a motorbike. 100 miles later (1 mile from home...) it went again and refused to respond to a second dose. When examined later, a 3 inch split was found in the inner tube (caused by incorrect fitting - it had been put in with a crease which had caused the rubber either side to abrade). The magic aerosol held it together - amazingly - and I might have trusted it as a permanent repair if it hadn't gone again. That's the problem: the stuff is so good that it may, under some circumstances, be able to mask a seriously faulty tyre.



I always carry some when touring in the car/bike/plane, (have never needed it since though), but would always want to have a proper repair ASAP after getting home.



Incidentally, BMW used to supply a tyre plugging kit in motorcycle tool kits for the user to repair a puncture at the roadside without needing to remove the tyre. They have stopped now due to fears of product liability, I believe, although you can still get the kits. They rely on a crochet hook type tool to instal the plug and have a cylinder of compressed gas to reinflate the tyre.



Willie Harrison - G-BZNY



On 8 May 2007, at 11:30, Raimo Toivio wrote:

[quote]I have thought it is not only to get home

- repair should be permanent until a next

puncture happens. In my case my tyre has

been OK after aerosol, so far. And if not,

inner tyres are not expensive.

 

Att least I have in my mono an inner tyre...

 

Regards, Raimo

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ami(at)mcfadyean.freeserv
Guest

Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 12:07 pm Post subject: Tire change

I can confirm that those kits are still available,  although of course they are only for tubeless tyres.

 I thought that plugging was illegal for UK  road-use!

  

 Duncan Mcf.

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carl(at)flyers.freeserve.
Guest

Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 11:05 pm Post subject: Tire change

I have used "slime" (green stuff) in the wheeles of  my car for the last couple of years and it has saved repairs on about 3 or  4 punctures. When the wheels were last replaced I think about three had been  dosed with the stuff and the tyre mechanics didnt say a thing. 

  

 The manufacturer says you shouldnt exceed 60mph  with the stuff but I think they are simply covering their backsides. I have only  had one puncture unseal itself and it reverted to a slow puncture which was in  no way dangerous. It resealed itself (see below)

  

 Its brilliant stuff and usually plugs a hole  straight away. One tyre didnt seal straight away and I simply left the car  parked with the hole pointing at the ground and the next day it was fixed -  probably drove another 5000 miles on that tyre.

  

 If you overdo the application it can throw the  wheel out of balance though this wouldnt be an issue with an  Europa.

  

 Have a couple of cans of the stuff in the gagage  and was meaning to use some on the Europa but havent got round to it. You can  buy it in tubed or tubeless variety. The tubeless has loads of ground up rubber  bits in it.

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