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zackrv8

Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Posts: 133

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 9:09 am Post subject: RV10 Doors Video

Guys,



   For those of you who did not get to the RV10 doors yet, you need to see this video.  Even those of you who have completed your RV10 and are flying around and are not happy with the way your doors close, you too need to see this.



  My brother Jim designed them and my Nephew Dave is producing them.  Either make them yourself, or get them from Dave, but put them in your Ten if you want to enhance the closing/locking of your RV10 doors.



  I first saw the problem with the rear door rod not engaging at Oshkosh last year.  I watched again and again as people got in Van's demonstrator and couldn't engage the rear door rod without a conscientious effort.  I initially made my door rods as per Vans plan.  The door did not "rack" properly when closed and was even worse when the door was latched.



  I know of several other RV10's with this safety problem.  The door guides are just one possible solution.  Take a look at this video and see for yourself.  Just remember that the rubber channel is not yet installed.  I will not use Vans supplied rubber channel on my plane.  I'm hunting around for something better that is softer.



  The Door Guides are CNC milled and are tapped from the back side so no screw heads are visible.  The screw pattern is the same as Vans.  If fact, if you haven't reached the stage of building your "plastic" door guides that Vans supplies in the kit, you won't have to drill that big hole through your vertical intercostal because the door pins don't go that far.



  The Door Pins are Stainless Steel, made on a CNC lathe, and have a magnet inserted in them so you can use Vans magnet switch for the door open warning system.  They screw right into Vans door rods (same threads).  You just have to cut the rods to the length you want.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIDyecpfc30



Zack

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RV10 # 40512

flysrv10(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 9:36 am Post subject: RV10 Doors Video

Zack,  The hardware looks fantastic.  I would like to see the same  

video with the door seals installed.  I know that my doors behaved  

very different once I installed the seals and did not fit as nice.   

In fact, I had to get a smaller diameter seal before I was satisfied  

with the operation.



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On Jun 8, 2007, at 1:09 PM, zackrv8 wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   



 Guys,



    For those of you who did not get to the RV10 doors yet, you need  

 to see this video.  Even those of you who have completed your RV10  

 and are flying around and are not happy with the way your doors  

 close, you too need to see this.



   My brother Jim designed them and my Nephew Dave is producing  

 them.  Either make them yourself, or get them from Dave, but put  

 them in your Ten if you want to enhance the closing/locking of your  

 RV10 doors.



   I first saw the problem with the rear door rod not engaging at  

 Oshkosh last year.  I watched again and again as people got in  

 Van's demonstrator and couldn't engage the rear door rod without a  

 conscientious effort.  I initially made my door rods as per Vans  

 plan.  The door did not "rack" properly when closed and was even  

 worse when the door was latched.



   I know of several other RV10's with this safety problem.  The  

 door guides are just one possible solution.  Take a look at this  

 video and see for yourself.  Just remember that the rubber channel  

 is not yet installed.  I will not use Vans supplied rubber channel  

 on my plane.  I'm hunting around for something better that is softer.



   The Door Guides are CNC milled and are tapped from the back side  

 so no screw heads are visible.  The screw pattern is the same as  

 Vans.  If fact, if you haven't reached the stage of building your  

 "plastic" door guides that Vans supplies in the kit, you won't have  

 to drill that big hole through your vertical intercostal because  

 the door pins don't go that far.



   The Door Pins are Stainless Steel, made on a CNC lathe, and have  

 a magnet inserted in them so you can use Vans magnet switch for the  

 door open warning system.  They screw right into Vans door rods  

 (same threads).  You just have to cut the rods to the length you want.



 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIDyecpfc30



 Zack



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Jim Berry

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 237
Location: Denver

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 9:40 am Post subject: Re: RV10 Doors Video

Zack,



Very slick. What is the cost?



Jim Berry

40482

AV8ORJWC

Joined: 13 Jul 2006
Posts: 1149
Location: Aurora, Oregon "Home of VANS"

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 10:08 am Post subject: RV10 Doors Video

Full Throttle Concepts has done a remarkable video.  Take the time to

click on the final link below, the conclusion sells the Rivet Head

product even if you don't conclude the factory doors need immediate

improvement.  Class Act!



John Cox -600



On Jun 8, 2007, at 1:09 PM, zackrv8 wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   



 Guys,



    For those of you who did not get to the RV10 doors yet, you need  

 to see this video.  Even those of you who have completed your RV10  

 and are flying around and are not happy with the way your doors  

 close, you too need to see this.



   My brother Jim designed them and my Nephew Dave is producing  

 them.  Either make them yourself, or get them from Dave, but put  

 them in your Ten if you want to enhance the closing/locking of your  

 RV10 doors.



   I first saw the problem with the rear door rod not engaging at  

 Oshkosh last year.  I watched again and again as people got in  

 Van's demonstrator and couldn't engage the rear door rod without a  

 conscientious effort.  I initially made my door rods as per Vans  

 plan.  The door did not "rack" properly when closed and was even  

 worse when the door was latched.



   I know of several other RV10's with this safety problem.  The  

 door guides are just one possible solution.  Take a look at this  

 video and see for yourself.  Just remember that the rubber channel  

 is not yet installed.  I will not use Vans supplied rubber channel  

 on my plane.  I'm hunting around for something better that is softer.



   The Door Guides are CNC milled and are tapped from the back side  

 so no screw heads are visible.  The screw pattern is the same as  

 Vans.  If fact, if you haven't reached the stage of building your  

 "plastic" door guides that Vans supplies in the kit, you won't have  

 to drill that big hole through your vertical intercostal because  

 the door pins don't go that far.



   The Door Pins are Stainless Steel, made on a CNC lathe, and have  

 a magnet inserted in them so you can use Vans magnet switch for the  

 door open warning system.  They screw right into Vans door rods  

 (same threads).  You just have to cut the rods to the length you want.



 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIDyecpfc30



 Zack



 --------

 RV8 #80125

 RV10 # 40512





 Read this topic online here:



 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=117311#117311

deutscht(at)rhwhotels.com
Guest

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 10:25 am Post subject: RV10 Doors Video

Does anyone other than me have a concern about the strength of the joint

where the "bullet" screws into the aluminum tube?



Tom Deutsch

#40545 75 hrs flying

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zackrv8

Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Posts: 133

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 11:36 am Post subject: Re: RV10 Doors Video

Tom,



  The "Bullet" or "Door Pin" screws in Vans existing rod with at least an inch of threads.  Once the final length is cut from Vans rod and the Bullet tips do not extend pass the door edge, you then Lock-Tite them in.  The "Pins" are loaded in shear, not tension.  Your fiberglass door will break before then door pins break off the rod.  



Zack

 	  deutscht(at)rhwhotels.com wrote: 	
		  Does anyone other than me have a concern about the strength of the joint

where the "bullet" screws into the aluminum tube?



Tom Deutsch

#40545 75 hrs flying

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zackrv8

Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Posts: 133

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 11:53 am Post subject: Re: RV10 Doors Video

I really don't know the cost.  Call Dave at 302-437-6087.  He can help you with that.



Joe



quote="jim berry"]Zack,



Very slick. What is the cost?



Jim Berry

40482[/quote]

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RV10 # 40512

millstees(at)ameritech.ne
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 12:59 pm Post subject: RV10 Doors Video

I paid $86.  Came in just a few days, and looks great.  I will be installing

in the next week or so.



Steve Mills N750SM (reserved)

RV-10 40486 Slow-build

Naperville, Illinois

Finishing kit

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robin1(at)mrmoisture.com
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 3:22 pm Post subject: RV10 Doors Video

Zack,

	I was actually on the site yesterday looking for this product.

The video is fantastic, the website is... well if I can say anything

nice I won't say anything at all.

	The site does not seem to display the door product or pricing.

Can you inform the list as to the pricing and what is & is not included.



Thanks,

Robin



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zackrv8

Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Posts: 133

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 6:02 pm Post subject: Re: RV10 Doors Video

 	  robin1(at)mrmoisture.com wrote: 	
		  Zack,

	I was actually on the site yesterday looking for this product.

The video is fantastic, the website is... well if I can say anything

nice I won't say anything at all.

	The site does not seem to display the door product or pricing.

Can you inform the list as to the pricing and what is & is not included.



Thanks,

Robin



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Robin,



  Dave informed me the price will be $86 for the set.  The set includes 4 door guides (you probably will have to trim the thickness because every door is different) and 4 door pins.  The pins have the same thread pattern as the threads you already made in Van's existing door rod.  They screw right in.  You have to cut the rod to length so as to not let the door pins extend past the door edge.  Then, screw and Lock-Tite them in.  There is a magnet imbedded in the door pin so you will still be able to use Van's existing door warning switch.



Zack



(Yeah,  I know his website needs work, I told him about it!)

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KiloPapa

Joined: 24 May 2006
Posts: 142
Location: Pearblossom, CA

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 7:22 pm Post subject: RV10 Doors Video

Rob,



What seal did you end up using?



Thanks, 



Kevin

40494



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Kevin
40494

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flysrv10(at)gmail.com
Guest

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 3:19 am Post subject: RV10 Doors Video

Kevin,  I used  Bulb seal, Item BA-1900010 from Brown Aircraft Supply  

in Jacksonville, FL.  904-396-6655.  The only thing I don't like  

about it is that it leaves a black mark that I clean once in a  

while.  However, the doors operate nicely and they are sealed.  You  

also need Rubber and Gasket Adhesive by 3M, part 1300L to attach this  

thing.



You may want to get their one page catalog and make your own  

determination.  I think that they only sell door seals.



Rob.



On Jun 9, 2007, at 11:21 PM, kilopapa(at)antelecom.net wrote:



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 Rob,



 What seal did you end up using?



 Thanks,



 Kevin

 40494



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> 

> <flysrv10(at)gmail.com>



> <snip>



>   In fact, I had to get a smaller diameter seal before I

 was satisfied   with the

> operation.

KiloPapa

Joined: 24 May 2006
Posts: 142
Location: Pearblossom, CA

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:50 pm Post subject: RV10 Doors Video

Rob,

Thanks for the info.

Kevin

40494

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----- Original Message Follows -----

<flysrv10(at)gmail.com> 

 	  Quote: 	

Kevin,  I used  Bulb seal, Item BA-1900010 from Brown

Aircraft Supply   in Jacksonville, FL.  904-396-6655.  The

only thing I don't like   about it is that it leaves a

black mark that I clean once in a   while.  However, the

doors operate nicely and they are sealed.  You   also need

Rubber and Gasket Adhesive by 3M, part 1300L to attach this

  thing.

You may want to get their one page catalog and make your

own   determination.  I think that they only sell door

seals.

Rob.

On Jun 9, 2007, at 11:21 PM, kilopapa(at)antelecom.net wrote:

> 

>

> Rob,

>

> What seal did you end up using?

>

> Thanks,

>

> Kevin

> 40494

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