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 Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 1:07 am Post subject: KitFox 2.fuel level problem,cant see fuel in tanks |
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I have a problem that I can not tell how much fuel that I have on board
my Kitfox 2.I can not see how much fuel is in tanks.I have 2 wing tanks
of 13gal total.from sitting in the pilot seat.during flight.I am new to
the KitFox family.I just bought my KitFox last Sat.N554KF.will I have
to use a timer?Thanks Steve Shinabery
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1. 06:49 AM - Re: Unequal fuel flow (n85ae)
2. 06:59 AM - Re: engine out logic ?? (n85ae)
3. 07:11 AM - Re: Re: Unequal fuel flow (Rick)
4. 07:59 AM - Unequal fuel flow (mikeperkins)
5. 10:04 AM - Tab on Rudder (Mike Chaney)
6. 10:44 AM - Re: Tab on Rudder (kerrjohna(at)comcast.net)
7. 12:03 PM - Re: Unequal fuel flow (Guy Buchanan)
8. 12:10 PM - Re: Tab on Rudder (Guy Buchanan)
9. 01:09 PM - Re: Tab on Rudder (A Smith)
10. 01:28 PM - Re: Tab on Rudder (kurt schrader)
11. 03:41 PM - Landing light lense??? (George Michaels)
12. 04:09 PM - Re: Unequal fuel flow (john oakley)
13. 04:56 PM - Re: Tab on Rudder (Marco Menezes)
14. 07:07 PM - Re: Unequal fuel flow (Guy Buchanan)
15. 09:57 PM - What is the main spar material 6061T6 ? (Marwynne Kuhn)
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Time: 06:49:38 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Unequal fuel flow
From: "n85ae" <n85ae(at)yahoo.com>
This is absolutely simple, it is a very common problem, and it is caused
by the use of a single header vent line. If the Kitfox design had vents to
both tanks the problem wouldn't be there. It is common to many other
high wing designs with similar fuel systems.
The best thing to do, is simply fly the plane and ignore it. You will still
feed all the fuel from both tanks (less unusable) to the header before
you fall out of the sky.
Jeff Hays
Series 5, IO240B
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Time: 06:59:18 AM PST US
Subject: Re: engine out logic ??
From: "n85ae" <n85ae(at)yahoo.com>
I fly every minute I'm flying with the assumption that the engines going
to quit.
I started flying in Colorado, and I now fly around Chicago. Both
mountainous terrain, and suburbia have equal appeal to me for landing.
So I always deviate within reach of fields, etc.
Having had an engine failure, is a religious experience. At first you
don't believe it quit, then you're next thought is "Oh %^$%!".
That and groundlooping my plane were the two most significant things
that I think made me a smarter/safer pilot.
Having my vaccum pump make loud shrieking noises during a night
flight made me rethink the wisdom of flying single engine at night over
the suburbs as well.
Jeff Hays
Series 5, IO-240B
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Time: 07:11:04 AM PST US
From: "Rick" <wingsdown(at)verizon.net>
Subject: RE: Re: Unequal fuel flow
Jeff you are right. Of more concern should be steep decent with less
than 6 or 7 gals fuel onboard. Provided you have dual tanks. There are
post on this issue though.
Rick
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Malcolmbru(at)aol.com
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 2:26 am Post subject: KitFox 2.fuel level problem,cant see fuel in tanks |
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A paint paddle with some lines on it would work well .drain both tanks and add one gallon to each and dip the tank mark it on your way up to full . good luck mal michigan
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 5:34 am Post subject: Re: KitFox 2.fuel level problem,cant see fuel in tanks |
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Do your wing tanks not have the sight tubes or are they just hard to see? I find mine are difficult to see in flight. It helps if I rock the wings to slosh things around a little.
I still use a timer though. I like to compare my actual fuel burn against what I expected throughout the trip. That way, I know way ahead of time if that 20knt head wind is going to add an extra stop.
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| Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 5:06 am Post subject: KitFox 2.fuel level problem,cant see fuel in tanks |
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Luis:
Don't you do a flight plan and navigation before every flight that takes you cross country? I'm hardly ever a mile off course or a half a gallon off on my calculations. That's not to say a timer isn't a handy item to have to log airtime.
Regarding to seeing fuel in the tanks... I have the same problem. its very hard to see the levels in the sight tubes when I'm in the seat. I was considering trying a couple of bicycle mirrors to try to get a better angle on the sight tubes.
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| Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 1:02 pm Post subject: Re: KitFox 2.fuel level problem,cant see fuel in tanks |
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| Quote: | | Don't you do a flight plan and navigation before every flight that takes you cross country? I'm hardly ever a mile off course or a half a gallon off on my calculations. |
Yes but you never know if you're going to encounter higher head winds than you expected. With a long cross country in a 95 knt airplane, a little bit of extra head wind can make a huge difference in your range. Cross checking my actual position and actual fuel level against the flight plan was part of my training.
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