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Tim(at)MyRV10.com
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 Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 9:15 am Post subject: Vertical Stab SB - VS Parts |
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With the recently released SB on the VS, I got to thinking
about what to do. I didn't know if I wanted to drill rivets
on the new paint and try to repair it, or if I should just
rebuild the whole thing. Being the first part a builder
builds, I know I had the nose rib ding, and another ding
on the rear from the rivet gun, more on the spar. Talking
to a couple other builders, we pondered the cost of a VS.
Today I gathered the remaining items I needed on a list
to find the total cost, which you'll see below is $222.48.
(You may have to buy the small new doubler plate...would
be dirt cheap)
I'm not sure if I'll repair or rebuild. The benefits of
the rebuild are that I have better skills than before,
and I can build and paint the new VS and then swap it in
when I'm ready in a very short time. The benefit of
the repair is the cost. Tom from Van's said they
didn't even have to repaint theirs, but I would imagine
that most builders would end up spot repairing the rivets.
I'm more worried about what would happen if I made a mistake
on the repair. It would take me a bit longer to fix, and if
I damaged something, I'd be downed for a couple weeks
until I could repair or rebuild.
Tim
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Vertical Stab Parts
$79.20 VS-1001 Skin
$13.91 VS-1002 Front Spar
$22.50 VS-1003 Rear Spar
$8.45 VS-1004 Bottom Inspar Rib
$5.33 VS-1005 Bottom Nose Rib
$6.61 VS-1006 Top Rib
$6.99 VS-1007 Middle Inspar Rib
$15.00 VS-1008 Rear Spar Doubler
$25.75 VS-1009 VS Tip Fairing
$4.95 VS-1010 Bottom Rudder Hinge Bracket
$4.00 VS-1011 Middle Rudder Hinge Bracket
$3.90 VS-1012 Top Rudder Hinge Bracket
$5.24 VS-1013 Middle Nose Rib
$15.40 VS-1014 Rear Spar Cap (**2 Req)
$1.75 VS-1015 Doubler
FREE VS-1017 Doubler from SB-06-2-3
$3.50 R-1007 Rudder Stop
$222.48 Total
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Tim Olson -- Flying RV-10
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LloydDR(at)wernerco.com
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| Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 9:45 am Post subject: Vertical Stab SB - VS Parts |
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Congrats on the Flying, and you need to change your Signature, it has
been tradition that we all include our builder number until we fly, and
now that you fall into that flying category (I am so Jealous) you need
to change from your builder number to your tail number plus hours!!!!
Should read about 10 hours by now right?
Dan 40269...and still pounding rivets!
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Tim(at)MyRV10.com
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| Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 10:15 am Post subject: Vertical Stab SB - VS Parts |
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Hey, I never thunk of that. 
I'll have to get the hours off my meter. Probably
around 4.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Lloyd, Daniel R. wrote:
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Congrats on the Flying, and you need to change your Signature, it has
been tradition that we all include our builder number until we fly, and
now that you fall into that flying category (I am so Jealous) you need
to change from your builder number to your tail number plus hours!!!!
Should read about 10 hours by now right?
Dan 40269...and still pounding rivets!
Do not Archive
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indigoonlatigo(at)msn.com
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| Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 10:39 am Post subject: Vertical Stab SB - VS Parts |
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My belief would be you should keep flying and rebuild another for the
reasons you spoke of. Getting those monkeys off my back are on my mind, but
you have a great opportunity and go ahead and admit it...you are already
missing the building....another plane is on your horizon.
| Quote: | From: Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com>
Reply-To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Vertical Stab SB - VS Parts
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 11:15:01 -0600
With the recently released SB on the VS, I got to thinking
about what to do. I didn't know if I wanted to drill rivets
on the new paint and try to repair it, or if I should just
rebuild the whole thing. Being the first part a builder
builds, I know I had the nose rib ding, and another ding
on the rear from the rivet gun, more on the spar. Talking
to a couple other builders, we pondered the cost of a VS.
Today I gathered the remaining items I needed on a list
to find the total cost, which you'll see below is $222.48.
(You may have to buy the small new doubler plate...would
be dirt cheap)
I'm not sure if I'll repair or rebuild. The benefits of
the rebuild are that I have better skills than before,
and I can build and paint the new VS and then swap it in
when I'm ready in a very short time. The benefit of
the repair is the cost. Tom from Van's said they
didn't even have to repaint theirs, but I would imagine
that most builders would end up spot repairing the rivets.
I'm more worried about what would happen if I made a mistake
on the repair. It would take me a bit longer to fix, and if
I damaged something, I'd be downed for a couple weeks
until I could repair or rebuild.
Tim
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Vertical Stab Parts
$79.20 VS-1001 Skin
$13.91 VS-1002 Front Spar
$22.50 VS-1003 Rear Spar
$8.45 VS-1004 Bottom Inspar Rib
$5.33 VS-1005 Bottom Nose Rib
$6.61 VS-1006 Top Rib
$6.99 VS-1007 Middle Inspar Rib
$15.00 VS-1008 Rear Spar Doubler
$25.75 VS-1009 VS Tip Fairing
$4.95 VS-1010 Bottom Rudder Hinge Bracket
$4.00 VS-1011 Middle Rudder Hinge Bracket
$3.90 VS-1012 Top Rudder Hinge Bracket
$5.24 VS-1013 Middle Nose Rib
$15.40 VS-1014 Rear Spar Cap (**2 Req)
$1.75 VS-1015 Doubler
FREE VS-1017 Doubler from SB-06-2-3
$3.50 R-1007 Rudder Stop
$222.48 Total
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Tim Olson -- Flying RV-10
#40170
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jhasbrouck(at)woh.rr.com
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| Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 11:15 am Post subject: Vertical Stab SB - VS Parts |
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Tim and all,
FWIW, I just finished the service bulletin on the VS. Took 2.5 hours
and was easy mainly because the VS was laying on a table in front of me and
not on the plane, ( hadn't been mounted yet ). I removed the suggested
rivets from the end rib and also the skin to spar flange rivets on one side
to gain good access. This enabled me to fold the skin back somewhat.
Riveting the doubler and the hinge was accomplished with a squeezer.
Remaining rivets were replaced also with a sqeezer. I'm sure some touch up
will be required to the paint and I would assume that working on a ladder
with the VS attached to the plane will present a challenge but I'm guessing
it's less of a pain than removing and replacing the entire VS.
John Hasbrouck
#40264 wings done, fuse on order
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Tim(at)MyRV10.com
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| Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 11:16 am Post subject: Vertical Stab SB - VS Parts |
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Well, I will probably build again SOME day. I'm happy to do
one part now, but not a whole plane for a while. Unless...
Maybe Van's will make an RV-16, 6 place model, or the RV-10EXT
extended baggage version.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
John Gonzalez wrote:
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My belief would be you should keep flying and rebuild another for the
reasons you spoke of. Getting those monkeys off my back are on my mind,
but you have a great opportunity and go ahead and admit it...you are
already missing the building....another plane is on your horizon.
> From: Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com>
> Reply-To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
> To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Vertical Stab SB - VS Parts
> Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 11:15:01 -0600
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> With the recently released SB on the VS, I got to thinking
> about what to do. I didn't know if I wanted to drill rivets
> on the new paint and try to repair it, or if I should just
> rebuild the whole thing. Being the first part a builder
> builds, I know I had the nose rib ding, and another ding
> on the rear from the rivet gun, more on the spar. Talking
> to a couple other builders, we pondered the cost of a VS.
>
> Today I gathered the remaining items I needed on a list
> to find the total cost, which you'll see below is $222.48.
> (You may have to buy the small new doubler plate...would
> be dirt cheap)
>
> I'm not sure if I'll repair or rebuild. The benefits of
> the rebuild are that I have better skills than before,
> and I can build and paint the new VS and then swap it in
> when I'm ready in a very short time. The benefit of
> the repair is the cost. Tom from Van's said they
> didn't even have to repaint theirs, but I would imagine
> that most builders would end up spot repairing the rivets.
> I'm more worried about what would happen if I made a mistake
> on the repair. It would take me a bit longer to fix, and if
> I damaged something, I'd be downed for a couple weeks
> until I could repair or rebuild.
>
> Tim
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> Vertical Stab Parts
>
> $79.20 VS-1001 Skin
> $13.91 VS-1002 Front Spar
> $22.50 VS-1003 Rear Spar
> $8.45 VS-1004 Bottom Inspar Rib
> $5.33 VS-1005 Bottom Nose Rib
> $6.61 VS-1006 Top Rib
> $6.99 VS-1007 Middle Inspar Rib
> $15.00 VS-1008 Rear Spar Doubler
> $25.75 VS-1009 VS Tip Fairing
> $4.95 VS-1010 Bottom Rudder Hinge Bracket
> $4.00 VS-1011 Middle Rudder Hinge Bracket
> $3.90 VS-1012 Top Rudder Hinge Bracket
> $5.24 VS-1013 Middle Nose Rib
> $15.40 VS-1014 Rear Spar Cap (**2 Req)
> $1.75 VS-1015 Doubler
> FREE VS-1017 Doubler from SB-06-2-3
> $3.50 R-1007 Rudder Stop
> $222.48 Total
>
> --
> Tim Olson -- Flying RV-10
> #40170
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bpattonsoa(at)yahoo.com
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| Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 2:26 pm Post subject: Vertical Stab SB - VS Parts |
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Don't forget if you make a new fin, it may be a "major change" and would require you to have some additional test time after the change. I know my RV-6 Op Limits would make me go back to the FAA to address this, but I think the new ones they are issuing now establish a procedure for you to determine what needs to be done and how long it needs to be. A consideration.
Bruce Patton
Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com> wrote:
[quote]--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson
Well, I will probably build again SOME day. I'm happy to do
one part now, but not a whole plane for a while. Unless...
Maybe Van's will make an RV-16, 6 place model, or the RV-10EXT
extended baggage version.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
John Gonzalez wrote:
&g t; --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Gonzalez"
[quote]
My belief would be you should keep flying and rebuild another for the
reasons you spoke of. Getting those monkeys off my back are on my mind,
but you have a great opportunity and go ahead and admit it...you are
already missing the building....another plane is on your horizon.
> From: Tim Olson
> Reply-To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
> To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Vertical Stab SB - VS Parts
> Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 11:15:01 -0600
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> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson
>
> With the recently released SB on the VS, I got to thinking
> about what to do. I didn't know if I wanted to drill rivets
> on the new paint and try to repair it, or if I should just
> rebuild the whole thing. Being the first part a builder
> builds, I know I had the nose rib ding, and another ding
> on the rear from the rivet gun, more on the spar. Talking
> to a couple other builders, we pondered the cost of a VS.
>
> Today I gathered the remaining items I needed on a list
> to find the total cost, which you'll see below is $222.48.
> (You may have to buy the small new doubler plate...would
> be dirt cheap)
>
> I'm not sure if I'll repair or rebuild. The benefits of
> the rebuild are that I have better skills than before,
> and I can build and paint the new VS and then swap it in
> when I'm ready in a very short time. The benefit of
> the repair is the cost. Tom from Van's said they
> didn't even have to repaint theirs, but I would imagine
> that most builders would end up spot repairing the rivets.
&g t; I'm more worried about what would happen if I made a mistake
> on the repair. It would take me a bit longer to fix, and if
> I damaged something, I'd be downed for a couple weeks
> until I could repair or rebuild.
>
> Tim
> ------------------------------------------------------
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> Vertical Stab Parts
>
> $79.20 VS-1001 Skin
> $13.91 VS-1002 Front Spar
> $22.50 VS-1003 Rear Spar
> $8.45 VS-1004 Bottom Inspar Rib
> $5.33 VS-1005 Bottom Nose Rib
> $6.61 VS-1006 Top Rib
> $6.99 VS-1007 Middle Inspar Rib
> $15.00 VS-1008 Rear Spar Doubler
> $25.75 VS-1009 VS Tip Fairing
> $4.95 VS-1010 Bottom Rudder Hinge Bracket
> $4.00 VS-1011 Middle Rudder Hinge Bracket
> $3.90 VS-1012 Top Rudder Hinge Bracket
> $5.24 VS-1013 Middle Nose Rib
> $15.40 VS-1014 Rear Spar Ca p (**2
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10flyer(at)verizon.net
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| Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 4:24 pm Post subject: Vertical Stab SB - VS Parts |
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Tim, I rebuilt my vertical for reasons other than the SB a while back. Being
the first piece I made, It had a few dings. I built the second in about 2
days and It looks so much better than the first. $200 and two days, I'd
build a new one!! Mark (40016)
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Rick S.
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| Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 12:12 am Post subject: Vertical Stab SB - VS Parts |
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Tim,
I'd assemble a new one for the same reasons you mention. I'll bet that would be a nice hour long project for a Sunday afternoon. I can't believe how much better I have become at putting together the airframe, the VS seems so simplistic now. I can't wait to build my next airplane and I haven't even finished this one! Mainly because I'll know so much more when that time comes.
Rick S.
40185
Fuselage
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indigoonlatigo(at)msn.com
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| Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 7:47 am Post subject: Vertical Stab SB - VS Parts |
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Amen!!
It is a sickness.!
JG.
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Reply-To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Vertical Stab SB - VS Parts
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 00:09:55 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
Tim,
I'd assemble a new one for the same reasons you mention. I'll bet that
would be a nice hour long project for a Sunday afternoon. I can't believe
how much better I have become at putting together the airframe, the VS
seems so simplistic now. I can't wait to build my next airplane and I
haven't even finished this one! Mainly because I'll know so much more when
that time comes.
Rick S.
40185
Fuselage
do not archive
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