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weeav8ter(at)grandecom.ne
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 6:30 am Post subject: defrosters

Has anyone installed or thought about installing a  defroster system? I keep thing about running 2' hoses up to each side of the  glare shield. Maybe some of you who have been flying for awhile, Vic, could tell  me if you think it's necessary.

  

 Nothing can give you a bad hair day quicker than  coming in IFR, low ceilings and you can't see out the front  window!!

  

 Wayne Edgerton

  

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DOUGPFLYRV(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 6:37 am Post subject: defrosters

I am flying a 7 with 2 computer cooling fans in the glare shield to serve  as defog fans.....works great and have needed them several times. Doing the same  on the 10.

  

 Doug

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rv10es(at)earthlink.net
Guest

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 6:51 am Post subject: defrosters

can you post a picture?

Do not archive



 rob kermanj

rv10es(at)earthlink.net (rv10es(at)earthlink.net)



 



On Feb 15, 2006, at 9:36 AM, DOUGPFLYRV(at)aol.com (DOUGPFLYRV(at)aol.com) wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		    I am flying a 7 with 2 computer cooling fans in the glare shield to serve as defog fans.....works great and have needed them several times. Doing the same on the 10.

  

 Doug

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DOUGPFLYRV(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 7:45 am Post subject: defrosters

Will have to shoot pics when go to A/P next time.

 dp

jeremy.p.harris(at)boeing
Guest

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 7:51 am Post subject: defrosters

Rick and I installed a defroster on our RV-10 using  some tees, vent parts from a Cherokee, and a shutoff valve.  There's some  pics on our website of the various components.  

 http://jharris.net/Aviation/RV_10.htm

  

 

Jeremy P. Harris 

Integrated Missile  Defense                                   

BMDS Architectures Lab  

The Boeing  Company

Washington, DC

Desk: (703) 414-6057  Dept: AV-2L-B27T

Cell: (703) 627-6500

Fax: (703) 414-6372

MC:  793C-G007

Office: 825B   



   From: Wayne Edgerton  [mailto:weeav8ter(at)grandecom.net] 

Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006  9:28 AM

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: RV10-List:  defrosters

 

 Has anyone installed or thought about installing a  defroster system? I keep thing about running 2' hoses up to each side of the  glare shield. Maybe some of you who have been flying for awhile, Vic, could tell  me if you think it's necessary.

  

 Nothing can give you a bad hair day quicker than  coming in IFR, low ceilings and you can't see out the front  window!!

  

 Wayne Edgerton

  

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rv10es(at)earthlink.net
Guest

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 8:00 am Post subject: defrosters

Thanks. No big hurry.

 rob kermanj

rv10es(at)earthlink.net (rv10es(at)earthlink.net)



 



On Feb 15, 2006, at 10:42 AM, DOUGPFLYRV(at)aol.com (DOUGPFLYRV(at)aol.com) wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		    Will have to shoot pics when go to A/P next time.

 dp

rv10es(at)earthlink.net
Guest

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 8:01 am Post subject: defrosters

Thanks, I will look.

Do Not Archive.



 rob kermanj

rv10es(at)earthlink.net (rv10es(at)earthlink.net)



 



On Feb 15, 2006, at 10:50 AM, Harris, Jeremy P wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  Rick and I installed a defroster on our RV-10 using some tees, vent parts from a Cherokee, and a shutoff valve.  There's some pics on our website of the various components. 

http://jharris.net/Aviation/RV_10.htm

 



Jeremy P. Harris 

Integrated Missile Defense                                   

BMDS Architectures Lab

The Boeing CompanyWashington, DCDesk: (703) 414-6057 Dept: AV-2L-B27TCell: (703) 627-6500Fax: (703) 414-6372MC: 793C-G007Office: 825B 



From: Wayne Edgerton [mailto:weeav8ter(at)grandecom.net (weeav8ter(at)grandecom.net)] Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 9:28 AMTo: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)Subject: defrosters



Has anyone installed or thought about installing a defroster system? I keep thing about running 2' hoses up to each side of the glare shield. Maybe some of you who have been flying for awhile, Vic, could tell me if you think it's necessary.

 

Nothing can give you a bad hair day quicker than coming in IFR, low ceilings and you can't see out the front window!!

 

Wayne Edgerton

 

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deruiteraircraftservices(
Guest

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 8:13 am Post subject: defrosters

Hi,

  

 I'm not to sure this set up will work on the ground  without a fanmotor of some description. You'll need quite a bit of forward  motion to get air to move through the entire system. In addition, the windscreen  tends to steam up when on the ground before and after engine start, ie, when you  do not have forward movement. It is even doubtful you'll have sufficient forward  motion during taxi.

  

 The set up with the cooling fans out of a computer  is a better option nad it's not the first time I've heard about it.

 I know there's RV4's and -6's flying with  them.

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jjessen(at)rcn.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 8:20 am Post subject: defrosters

Any chance we can remember the 

  

 Do Not Archive

  

 on some of these casual posts?  

  

 Thanks



   From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of rob  kermanj

Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 8:00 AM

To:  rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: RV10-List:  defrosters

 

Thanks. No big hurry. 

  rob kermanj

 rv10es(at)earthlink.net (rv10es(at)earthlink.net)

 

  On Feb 15, 2006, at 10:42 AM, DOUGPFLYRV(at)aol.com (DOUGPFLYRV(at)aol.com) wrote:

  	  Quote: 	
		     Will have to shoot pics when go to A/P next time.

   dp

sam.marlow(at)adelphia.ne
Guest

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 8:33 am Post subject: defrosters

Will the fan motors interfere with the EFIS displays? 

 

 RAS wrote:

  	  Quote: 	
		              Hi,

    

   I'm not to sure this set up will work on the ground without a fanmotor of some description. You'll need quite a bit of forward motion to get air to move through the entire system. In addition, the windscreen tends to steam up when on the ground before and after engine start, ie, when you do not have forward movement. It is even doubtful you'll have sufficient forward motion during taxi.

    

   The set up with the cooling fans out of a computer is a better option nad it's not the first time I've heard about it.

   I know there's RV4's and -6's flying with them.

    	  Quote: 	
		       ----- Original Message ----- 

     From:     rob kermanj (rv10es(at)earthlink.net) 

     To:     rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com) 

     Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 4:00 PM

     Subject: Re: defrosters

     

     

 Thanks, I will look.          

     Do Not Archive.

     

          rob kermanj

     rv10es(at)earthlink.net (rv10es(at)earthlink.net)

          

          

     

          On Feb 15, 2006, at 10:50 AM, Harris, Jeremy P wrote:

           	  Quote: 	
		         Rick and I installed a defroster on our RV-10 using some tees, vent parts from a Cherokee, and a shutoff valve.  There's some pics on our website of the various components. 

       http://jharris.net/Aviation/RV_10.htm

        

       

Jeremy P. Harris 

       Integrated Missile Defense                                   

       BMDS Architectures Lab       

The Boeing Company       Washington, DC       Desk: (703) 414-6057 Dept: AV-2L-B27T       Cell: (703) 627-6500       Fax: (703) 414-6372       MC: 793C-G007       Office: 825B        

       

               From: Wayne Edgerton [mailto:weeav8ter(at)grandecom.net (weeav8ter(at)grandecom.net)]              Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 9:28 AM       To:       rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)       Subject: defrosters       

       

       Has anyone installed or thought about installing a defroster system? I keep thing about running 2' hoses up to each side of the glare shield. Maybe some of you who have been flying for awhile, Vic, could tell me if you think it's necessary.

        

       Nothing can give you a bad hair day quicker than coming in IFR, low ceilings and you can't see out the front window!!

        

       Wayne Edgerton

        

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deruiteraircraftservices(
Guest

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 9:58 am Post subject: defrosters

Hi,

  

 I would be inclined to think that they don't.  They're normally working in very close proximity to the computer mainboards, if  there were any problems along those lines the computer would have  problems(?)

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Tim(at)MyRV10.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 10:30 am Post subject: defrosters

My EFIS has fans built right into the back.  Can't see why

one would be a problem and another wouldn't unless maybe

it's a real noisy fan.



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

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RAS wrote:

[quote] Hi,

  

 I would be inclined to think that they don't. They're normally working 

 in very close proximity to the computer mainboards, if there were any 

 problems along those lines the computer would have problems(?)

 

     ---

rick.conti(at)boeing.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 10:49 am Post subject: defrosters

What does “Do Not Archive” do to an email?  

     

Thank You 

 Rick Conti 

 office: 703-414-6141 

    cell: 571-215-6134   

        

  

From: John Jessen [mailto:jjessen(at)rcn.com] 

 Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 11:20 AM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: RE: defrosters  

  

   

Any chance we can remember the   

   

Do Not Archive  

   

on some of these casual posts?    

   

Thanks  

       

  

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of rob kermanj

 Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 8:00 AM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: defrosters  

Thanks. No big hurry.     

       

rob kermanj  

    

rv10es(at)earthlink.net (rv10es(at)earthlink.net)  

    

   

  



 

   

    

       

On Feb 15, 2006, at 10:42 AM, DOUGPFLYRV(at)aol.com (DOUGPFLYRV(at)aol.com) wrote:  

  



 

     

Will have to shoot pics when go to A/P next time.  

    

dp

Jerry Grimmonpre'

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 144
Location: Huntley, Illinois 60142

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 11:29 am Post subject: defrosters

Hi Doug ...

 I'm thinking the same thing about defrost and agree from similar  experience.  

 What inch measurement fans are you flying with and do you get any fan  noise?

 Thanks for the info ...

 Jerry Grimmonpre'

 RV8A

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DOUGPFLYRV(at)AOL.COM
Guest

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 1:54 pm Post subject: defrosters

Sorry, I do foerget. I seldom make post and not in the habit. Will try to   do better.

 DP

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DOUGPFLYRV(at)aol.com
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 1:55 pm Post subject: defrosters

Don't know as I do not have EFIS in the 7. Will find out when the 10  flies.

 Doug

  

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DOUGPFLYRV(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 2:18 pm Post subject: defrosters

Jerry, I don't know exact size of fafans as we bought the 7. I purchased 2  fans for the 10...I think 3". There is no ducting, just cabin air criculating,  but works fine.

 doug

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owl40188(at)yahoo.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 2:47 pm Post subject: defrosters

I wonder if these would work well in the tunnel area to keep it cooler.

  

 Niko

 40188



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steveadams

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 191

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 4:40 am Post subject: Re: defrosters

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Please bear with me if this is a stupid idea, as I am not building a 10. There has been some discussion of problems with a lot of heat in the tunnel area. If the air in the tunnel is positive pressure relative to the cabin, and the air is quite hot, wouldn't it be possible to duct some of that heat through a scat hose to a vent on the glare shield? Unwanted heat converted to a useful purpose, no wiring, fans to fail, possible radio noise etc. It seems to me the air flow and amount of heat that a little computer cooling fan would put out would be insufficient to do anything more than clear a little interior fog off a small portion the the windscreen. Just a thought.

jesse(at)itecusa.org
Guest

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 4:38 am Post subject: defrosters

We have a cooling fan system from Aircraft Spruce that has three ports, two going to the radio stack and one unused.  That could easily be run to a hole in the glare shield to be used as a defrost.  In fact, a fan with more ports could be used and have two or more defrost ports.  It would be always on, but I can’t imagine that that would make much difference, since the fan is always running anyway, and the air is just from under the glare shield, so it shouldn’t be too hot or cold except maybe just starting out.  Any reason that this shouldn’t work?  

   

Thanks.  

     

Jesse Saint  

I-TEC, Inc.  

jesse(at)itecusa.org (jesse(at)itecusa.org)  

www.itecusa.org  

Fax: 815-377-3694  

   

I am in Ecuador until May, 2006.  If you have questions regarding I-TEC, please call the office at 352-465-4545.  If you would like to talk to me, please call me at 352-505-1899.  This number won't always be on, but it has voicemail that will get to me in Ecuador.  

        

  

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of RAS

 Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 11:12 AM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: defrosters  

  

     

Hi,  

    

   

    

I'm not to sure this set up will work on the ground without a fanmotor of some description. You'll need quite a bit of forward motion to get air to move through the entire system. In addition, the windscreen tends to steam up when on the ground before and after engine start, ie, when you do not have forward movement. It is even doubtful you'll have sufficient forward motion during taxi.  

    

   

    

The set up with the cooling fans out of a computer is a better option nad it's not the first time I've heard about it.  

    

I know there's RV4's and -6's flying with them.  

  [quote]    

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