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		LouB
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 3:04 am    Post subject: Re: AMD Patriot | 
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				At the new AMD Patriot web site, the phrase "The all-new Patriot 150, represented by AMD" is used.
 
 I wonder what represented by AMD means.  Is the plane constructed somewhere else?  Is the design finalized?  Why do they suggest engine choices from Rotax, Jabiru to Continental.  Is that just an opinion poll.  I wonder if it will eventually be available as a kit built.  I wonder whether it uses pulled rivets?  So many questions?
 
 Lou
 
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		LouB
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 12:10 pm    Post subject: Re: AMD Patriot | 
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				I wonder if the new AMD patriot is a model of AeroAndina SA  from Columbia South America, a plane manufacturer since 1971.  The model that it resembles is the MXP 1000 Tayrona.  The specs are near identical to the Patriot and the appearance is to my eye identical.
 
 What do you think?
 
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		LouB
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 12:12 pm    Post subject: Re: AMD Patriot | 
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				The AeroAndia SA URL:
 
 http://www.airandina.com/eng/indexsp.htm
 
 MXP1000 is ?? AMD Patriot
 
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		vgstol(at)bigpond.net.au Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 1:09 pm    Post subject: AMD Patriot | 
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				Now that would be really  interesting!  That's the same designer who first designed the  Savannah before it was taken up by I.C.P. in Italy....
   
  Max Tedesco, the chief engineer of  AeroAndina SA, is an excellent engineering designer and manufacturer, with  a long history with Zenair.  The 701 kit that we assembled at Sun'nFun  in 1990 was built in Columbia by Tedesco's company.......
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		Jaybannist(at)cs.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 2:02 pm    Post subject: AMD Patriot | 
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				I have looked at the photos on AMD's site and the Aeroandina S.A. sites.  The Patriot looks identical to the MXP 1000 Tayrona.  Even the paint job looks identical.  The performance data is identical except for fuel capacity and the fact that the Patriot has a Continental O-200 engine and the Tayrona has a Rotax 912.  Amazing coincidence?  I think not.
 
 I suppose that the design has been tweeked for U.S. LSA requirements and the engine change, but still.....
 
 Jay in Dallas
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		JohnDRead(at)aol.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 2:22 pm    Post subject: AMD Patriot | 
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				So what! You guys spend way to much time crucifying various companies and  their products and to little time in your shops building. TO MUCH ALREADY GIVE  IT A REST!! 
   
  John  Read
 
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		LouB
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 2:30 pm    Post subject: Re: AMD Patriot | 
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				 	  | Jaybannist(at)cs.com wrote: | 	 		  I have looked at the photos on AMD's site and the Aeroandina S.A. sites.  The Patriot looks identical to the MXP 1000 Tayrona.  Even the paint job looks identical.  The performance data is identical except for fuel capacity and the fact that the Patriot has a Continental O-200 engine and the Tayrona has a Rotax 912.  Amazing coincidence?  I think not.
 
 I suppose that the design has been tweeked for U.S. LSA requirements and the engine change, but still.....
 
 Jay in Dallas
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 Jay,
 
        AeroAndia also has the following engines available in some of its models:
 
 Rotax 912 ULS 100HP
 Rotax 912 UL Turbo
 Continental O 200.100 HP
 Continental IO 240.125 HP 
 
 Very interesting.  I hope AMD brings the SLSA to market and Zenith brings the kit version.
 
 Lou
 
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		paulried(at)rogers.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 6:06 pm    Post subject: AMD Patriot | 
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				???   
    
  And this reaction was brought on by what?  
    
 Having watched this thread I found the info presented interesting.  If it doesn’t meet your exacting standard there is always the DELETE key  
    
 BTW, how did you read this if you where in your shop building?  
      
    
 Paul Riedlinger  
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 So what! You guys spend way to much time crucifying various companies and their products and to little time in your shops building. TO MUCH ALREADY GIVE IT A REST!!   
     
    
     
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		jetboy
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 9:04 pm    Post subject: Re: AMD Patriot | 
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				Isn't the Patriot150 actually the production name for the project given the temporary name CH750?
 
 http://www.zenithair.com/news/ch750.html
 To my eye it looks similar to a C150 perhaps thats why its called a P150
 
 Ralph
 
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