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PatrickW
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 Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 2:24 pm Post subject: Transition Training: Dual Sticks vs Y Stick a problem...? |
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Friends - I'll soon have the opportunity to fly a Zodiac 601XL in a training situation, and as my own XL approaches completion I plan on becoming current in a 601XL prior to my own aircraft's first flight.
My 601XL is configured with the Y stick, whereas the training 601XL is configured with dual sticks.
Has anyone here done transition training on a dual stick 601XL and then moved on to a 601XL with the Y stick...?
Do any of you who have flown 601XL's see this as an issue...?
I am a PPSEL, and will have about 200 hours in several aircraft by the time I make my first flight (Warrior, J3, CT, Evector, & 601XL).
Patrick
601XL/Corvair
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jeffrey_davidson(at)earth
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| Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 3:26 pm Post subject: Transition Training: Dual Sticks vs Y Stick a problem...? |
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Patrick,
I have flown both. We are all different, but it took just a few
minutes to adjust to either one, Most of my 500 hours are with a Cessna
yoke. I had flown a Piper Cub Special with a stick before, but not the Y
stick. I found flying with either one a non issue.
Jeff Davidson
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Has anyone here done transition training on a dual stick 601XL and then
moved on to a 601XL with the Y stick...?
Do any of you who have flown 601XL's see this as an issue...?
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leo(at)zuehlfield.com
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| Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 5:16 pm Post subject: Transition Training: Dual Sticks vs Y Stick a problem...? |
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Patrick, I completely agree with Jeff. I have an HDS with a Y stick.
I live in a flying community with a bunch of "old geezers" like myself.
At first glance, ALL my neighbors were VERY skeptical of the stick. I
made believers out of all of them by getting them in the seat, climbing
to 400', crossing my arms and saying, "the plane is yours". Two
minutes later the stick was a NON-ISSUE and the grin on their face was
my reward.
My 2 cents.
Leo Gates
N601Z
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Patrick,
I have flown both. We are all different, but it took just a few
minutes to adjust to either one, Most of my 500 hours are with a Cessna
yoke. I had flown a Piper Cub Special with a stick before, but not the Y
stick. I found flying with either one a non issue.
Jeff Davidson
<snip>
Has anyone here done transition training on a dual stick 601XL and then
moved on to a 601XL with the Y stick...?
Do any of you who have flown 601XL's see this as an issue...?
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rocclobster(at)HOTMAIL.CO
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| Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 5:49 pm Post subject: Transition Training: Dual Sticks vs Y Stick a problem...? |
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Hello Patrick,
I have had the good fortune to fly both the Y stick and the dual sticks in
the XL. While I prefer the dual sticks the Y stick is still very easy to
use. The main issue with the Y stick for me came with trying to reconfigure
the GPS or change freqs on the radio, not with controlling the aircraft.
The XL that I am currently flying originally had the Y stick from first
flight to about the 125 hour point. At first, I had a little difficulty
holding altitude in a steep turn. I tended to always pull back on the stick
as I went past 45 degrees. With only a couple flights practicing the
maneuver my error was quickly overcome. Control during take off and landing
with the Y stick was never a concern.
Good luck.
Colin
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mosquito56
Joined: 24 Aug 2007
Posts: 77
Location: Laredo, Tx
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| Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 9:27 pm Post subject: Re: Transition Training: Dual Sticks vs Y Stick a problem... |
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You might want to find a quicksilver u/l and do about an hour in that. They don't have a y stick but do have one stick in the middle that the student holds below the instructor. This should give you an idea of how it will feel flying Y stick.
I would highly recommend you find someone with a Y and the same model as yours. With the sensitivity of the elevator in the XL and the fact your going to be flying a new plane for the first time, you don't want this little problem in your mind. Get some Y time just to be on the safe side.
OLD BOLD ETC.
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bryanmmartin
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| Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:03 am Post subject: Transition Training: Dual Sticks vs Y Stick a problem...? |
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Before I first flew my Zodiac, nearly all of my flight time was in
aircraft with a control yoke. I flew these with my left hand on the yoke
and used my left hand for engine controls. But I noticed that every time
I flew a flight simulator type program on a computer, I used my right
hand on the joystick. I had no problem at all adapting to the Y stick in
my Zodiac. Even with all that time in Cessnas, the Zodiac Y stick seemed
perfectly natural to me.
PatrickW wrote:
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Friends - I'll soon have the opportunity to fly a Zodiac 601XL in a training situation, and as my own XL approaches completion I plan on becoming current in a 601XL prior to my own aircraft's first flight.
My 601XL is configured with the Y stick, whereas the training 601XL is configured with dual sticks.
Has anyone here done transition training on a dual stick 601XL and then moved on to a 601XL with the Y stick...?
Do any of you who have flown 601XL's see this as an issue...?
I am a PPSEL, and will have about 200 hours in several aircraft by the time I make my first flight (Warrior, J3, CT, Evector, & 601XL).
Patrick
601XL/Corvair
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