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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 8:22 pm    Post subject: Incoming Empennage Kit Reply with quote

Actually as of 2-2-2006 the plans have had the VS-1006 as a step.

Building with others is more fun (unless it's my mother or father in law!),
but sadly all the guys who know anything never seem to have all that much
time to assist. I have done 99% of the work myself, those hard to reach
areas have MK-319 pop rivets , my wife came out for the tailcone and helped
with 10 rivets otherwise worked "solo" The extent of working with my
neighbors, has been fun too, it's usually explaining that this is not a
large RC or ultralight but a real plane, they still think I am joking, now I
have lowered myself to antogonize my neighbors about how fast this plane is
and how my wife will learn to fly in it, their eyes seem to get bigger
everytime I tell them more.. they now are ready to call Child welfare as I
announced my daughter will also be flying in this plane... yep, real fun
working with my neighbors!
I love building this thing in my garage, even if it is mostly alone.. I
never imagined the smile it would put on my face..

Pascal


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 6:24 am    Post subject: Incoming Empennage Kit Reply with quote

I find Van's plans to be very straight forward.

Dave Leikam
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:32 am    Post subject: Re: Incoming Empennage Kit Reply with quote

Hey Chuck,

I saw your comment about deburring and thought I'd pass this along: http://planetools.blogspot.com:80/2007/09/cogsdill-deburring-tools.html

I tend to be a tool freak and was excited thinking about getting getting Cogsdill's 3/32 and 1/8 deburring tools until I read the above. Now I think I'll save the $ and stick with hand twisting a larger bit when needed, or just wiping with an old towel when that will do it.

Someone else mentioned assembling the the elevator pushrod to the elevator bellcrank assembly (page 10-23 when you get it) BEFORE installing the bellcrank -- and I think that is an excellent idea. We did not ... and I ended up uttering many unintelligible sounds while impersonating a contortionist, getting the correct combination of washers in the bearing. By the way, I finally got it by using a magnet with which I could slide the washers one at a time in position on the other side of the aluminum brace while feeding the bolt through -- Sheesh!

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:31 am    Post subject: Re: Incoming Empennage Kit Reply with quote

What ...? !!! I just got emailed to superglue the washers together first. That's waaay too easy! Man, where were you when I needed you?

Hah!

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:32 am    Post subject: Incoming Empennage Kit Reply with quote

I actually have the Cogsdill burraway tools. They work great, but you
need to have the correct setup!

1. You need to purchase the tools with the blades that have a neutral
rake (zero degree) to use with Aluminium. Using the wrong blade will
take off too much.
2. You will need to adjust the blade tension by turning a setscrew in
the end of the tool; I've found the speed of your drill (or whatever you
use to turn the tool) will affect how agressive the tool is. Use the
setscrew to to correct for this.

The burraway tools will NOT enlarge the inside of the holes; The top of
the blade is polished so as to not scratch the inside of the drilled hole.

What the burraway tools are terrible at is deburring holes that are out
of round, but are sometimes the only way to deburr the 'other side' of
the hole, and also work great on holes in tubing, etc.

-Jim 40384 (Bummed out currently; need to get excited about working on
the fuselage again)

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Hey Chuck,

I saw your comment about deburring and thought I'd pass this along: http://planetools.blogspot.com:80/2007/09/cogsdill-deburring-tools.html

I tend to be a tool freak and was excited thinking about getting getting Cogsdill's 3/32 and 1/8 deburring tools until I read the above. Now I think I'll save the $ and stick with hand twisting a larger bit when needed, or just wiping with an old towel when that will do it.

Someone else mentioned assembling the the elevator pushrod to the elevator bellcrank assembly (page 10-23 when you get it) BEFORE installing the bellcrank -- and I think that is an excellent idea. We did not ... and I ended up uttering many unintelligible sounds while impersonating a contortionist, getting the correct combination of washers in the bearing. By the way, I finally got it by using a magnet with which I could slide the washers one at a time in position on the other side of the aluminum brace while feeding the bolt through -- Sheesh!

Later, - Lew

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:39 am    Post subject: Incoming Empennage Kit Reply with quote

Pascal,

Thanks for the kind words. Hopefully I'll start up building again, soon. Those wings parts sitting there are calling my name!

John J

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From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Pascal
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John;
Interesting you recommend Tim's site, yet make no mention of your great site for the Empennage.
It was a large part of my basis for those first few sections. http://www.soundingsresearch.com/RV-10/Home.htm or the www.jessen-rv10.com under your name. Great site for step by step..

Pascal
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:56 am    Post subject: Incoming Empennage Kit Reply with quote

Set the Cogsdill's correctly, and they are very nice to use. But you are
correct. Setting the internal spring pressure too high and spinning them
too fast, and you can slightly enlarge the hole. They are expensive, and
not altogether infallable (the blades break), so other techniques to get rid
of the drilling burr certainly are attractive. I like to use a reamer to
enlarge the hole, rather than a twist drill bit. That makes having a burr
even less likely. Get a magnifying glass and have a look at the difference.
Fun stuff.

John J

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:29 am    Post subject: Incoming Empennage Kit Reply with quote

For all you washer, bolt, bellcrank challenged builders, try this. Run a piece of string from the outer hole, slide as many washers as you need then pass the string through the eye, then washers, then string until you have the washers and string run out the other side. Pull the string tight and the washers should slide into position in their appropriate place. Now slide your 3/32 or 1/8 punch into the hole and remove the string. With the end of the punch guiding the bolt, push the bolt through letting the punch come back out...takes seconds and no glued washers.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:56 pm    Post subject: Incoming Empennage Kit Reply with quote

Rick, thanks so much for that!

Bill Watson

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For all you washer, bolt, bellcrank challenged builders, try this. Run a piece of string from the outer hole, slide as many washers as you need then pass the string through the eye, then washers, then string until you have the washers and string run out the other side. Pull the string tight and the washers should slide into position in their appropriate place. Now slide your 3/32 or 1/8 punch into the hole and remove the string. With the end of the punch guiding the bolt, push the bolt through letting the punch come back out...takes seconds and no glued washers.

Rick S.
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