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dlm46007(at)cox.net
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 7:58 pm Post subject: WRECKED A340-600 at TULOUSE FRANCE 11-07

TIMEOUT FOR HUMOR

Arabs WRECKED A340-600 at TULOUSE FRANCE 11-07

These are pictures of the wreck of a brand new A340-600, that had never

flown. (never saw (1) hour in the air)

Thank these French and their Arab friends for this bit of "comedy of

errors".

Nine employees of the Arab airline were in the aircraft, but "no employees"

from Airbus were present. 

The Arab's taxied out to the run-up area. 

Then they took all four engines to takeoff power with virtually an empty

aircraft. (They obvious didn't read the run-up manuals.)

No chocks were set, (not that it would have mattered at that power setting).

"Brakes will not hold it back at full power anyway".

As it turns out the takeoff warning horn was blaring away in the cockpit

because they had all FOUR engines at full power. 

The aircraft computers thought they were trying to takeoff but it had not

been configured properly (flaps/slats, etc, etc).

Then one of these brain surgeons decided to pull the "Ground Sense"

circuit breaker to quiet the alarms. 

This fools the aircraft into thinking it is in the air."A big, big mistake"!



As soon as they did that, the computers automaticlly "released" all the

brakes. ("this is a Safety feature so that pilots don't land with the brakes

on".)There was No time to stop and no one smart enough thought to reduce the

max power setting.....



So the rest is as you see it below.



No one is talking, so who knows if there were survivors.

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wcurtis(at)nerv10.com
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 9:06 am Post subject: WRECKED A340-600 at TULOUSE FRANCE 11-07

David,



Try at least to contain you bigotry with a post that begins with "Arabs WRECKED A340-600"

http://aircrewbuzz.com/2007/11/new-a340-600-in-ground-accident-at.html



Just because it was painted with the name of the Abu Dhabi carrier Eithad Airways you make the implication that "Arabs" are incompetent because they "wrecked" a brand new A-340-600.  A quick search would have provided the correct, uncolored information but instead you posted clearly biased  misinformation.  Would it have been as comic had the aircraft been painted with British Airway colors?



"At the time of the accident, there were nine people on board the aircraft, including two Airbus staff, and seven employees of Abu Dhabi Aircraft Technologies (ADAT). Five of those nine people were injured, but as of today only the two Airbus employees and one ADAT employee remained hospitalized. None of their injuries are reported to be life-threatening.



Etihad Airways confirms that there were no Etihad staff involved in the accident."



Sorry, I don't find humor in misinformation thinly masking bigotry.  I guess that is why we should limit the subjects of this list to RV-10 related issues.



William

http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/

"Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."

-- Dr. Suess 



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davidsoutpost(at)comcast.
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 9:26 am Post subject: WRECKED A340-600 at TULOUSE FRANCE 11-07

I agree with William and furthermore, these types of posts have absolutely nothing to do with the RV construction community.

 David Clifford

  

 [quote]-------------- Original message -------------- 

From: "William Curtis" <wcurtis(at)nerv10.com> 



[quote] --> RV10-List message posted by: "William Curtis" 

 

 David, 

 

 Try at least to contain you bigotry with a post that begins with "Arabs WRECKED 

 A340-600" 

 http://aircrewbuzz.com/2007/11/new-a340-600-in-ground-accident-at.html 

 

 Just because it was painted with the name of the Abu Dhabi carrier Eithad 

 Airways you make the implication that "Arabs" are incompetent because they 

 "wrecked" a brand new A-340-600. A quick search would have provided the 

 correct, uncolored information but instead you posted clearly biased 

 misinformation. Would it have been as comic had the aircraft been painted with 

 British Airway colors? 

 

 "At the time of the   accide nt, there were nine people on board the aircraft, 

 including two Airbus staff, and seven employees of Abu Dhabi Aircraft 

 Technologies (ADAT). Five of those nine people were injured, but as of today 

 only the two Airbus employees and one ADAT employee remained hospitalized. None 

 of their injuries are reported to be life-threatening. 

 

 Etihad Airways confirms that there were no Etihad staff involved in the 

 accident." 

 

 Sorry, I don't find humor in misinformation thinly masking bigotry. I guess 

 that is why we should limit the subjects of this list to RV-10 related issues. 

 

 William 

 http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/ 

 "Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and 

 those who matter don't mind." 

 -- Dr. Suess 

 

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GRANSCOTT(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 9:39 am Post subject: WRECKED A340-600 at TULOUSE FRANCE 11-07

In a message dated 2/22/2008 11:08:58 AM Central Standard Time,  wcurtis(at)nerv10.com writes:

  	  Quote: 	
		  "Be who    you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those    who matter don't mind."

-- Dr. Suess 	


 

 William I agree with you but can you tell me what Dr Suess has to do with  RV's?



Delicious ideas to please the pickiest eaters. Watch the video on AOL Living.

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flysrv10(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 9:46 am Post subject: WRECKED A340-600 at TULOUSE FRANCE 11-07

Amen!  Good on you William.

Rob

On Feb 22, 2008, at 12:15 PM, William Curtis wrote:



[quote] 



 David,



 Try at least to contain you bigotry with a post that begins with  

 "Arabs WRECKED A340-600"

 http://aircrewbuzz.com/2007/11/new-a340-600-in-ground-accident-at.html



 Just because it was painted with the name of the Abu Dhabi carrier  

 Eithad Airways you make the implication that "Arabs" are incompetent  

 because they "wrecked" a brand new A-340-600.  A quick search would  

 have provided the correct, uncolored information but instead you  

 posted clearly biased  misinformation.  Would it have been as comic  

 had the aircraft been painted with British Airway colors?



 "At the time of the accident, there were nine people on board the  

 aircraft, including two Airbus staff, and seven employees of Abu  

 Dhabi Aircraft Technologies (ADAT). Five of those nine people were  

 injured, but as of today only the two Airbus employees and one ADAT  

 employee remained hospitalized. None of their injuries are reported  

 to be life-threatening.



 Etihad Airways confirms that there were no Etihad staff involved in  

 the accident."



 Sorry, I don't find humor in misinformation thinly masking bigotry.   

 I guess that is why we should limit the subjects of this list to  

 RV-10 related issues.



 William

 http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/

 "Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't  

 matter and those who matter don't mind."

 -- Dr. Suess

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msausen

Joined: 25 Oct 2007
Posts: 559
Location: Appleton, WI USA

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 9:48 am Post subject: WRECKED A340-600 at TULOUSE FRANCE 11-07

"Would it have been as comic had the aircraft been painted with British Airway colors?"



Hell yes!  Funny how when the governments refer to Arab nations it's not a problem.  Kinda like referring to me as an American.  Oh wait, I can see how some people would now consider that an insult.



Yawn



Do not archive as like everything else it's my opinion and I have not been held to any standards in my ramblings.  Heh



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orchidman

Joined: 10 Jul 2006
Posts: 277
Location: Oklahoma City - KRCE

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:02 am Post subject: Re: WRECKED A340-600 at TULOUSE FRANCE 11-07

 	  msausen wrote: 	
		  "Would it have been as comic had the aircraft been painted with British Airway colors?"



Hell yes!  -- 	


Its Friday so I guess we have to be politically correct.



Ya-all have a good day!

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RV10 - # 40674
(N2GB Flying)

wcurtis(at)nerv10.com
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:06 am Post subject: WRECKED A340-600 at TULOUSE FRANCE 11-07

 	  Quote: 	
		   William I agree with you but can you tell me what Dr Suess has to do with  RV's?


	


That's in jest --right?  I can't tell?



William

http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/

"Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."

-- Dr. Suess

etekberg(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:09 am Post subject: WRECKED A340-600 at TULOUSE FRANCE 11-07

William,

  

 I can't help but wonder, if it had been "Americans wrecked a plane" instead, would you still pull the racism card?

  

 Also, how does your accusation that a member is a bigot help the RV community?  Even were it true (which I doubt it is - but I wouldn't care anyway as this is a RV-10 list, not a let's fight bigotry list), wouldn't it be better to just ignore it and move on?

  

 -Eric

 do not archive

 

 

 On 2/22/08, William Curtis <wcurtis(at)nerv10.com (wcurtis(at)nerv10.com)> wrote: [quote]--> RV10-List message posted by: "William Curtis" <wcurtis(at)nerv10.com (wcurtis(at)nerv10.com)>

 

David,



Try at least to contain you bigotry with a post that begins with "Arabs WRECKED A340-600"

http://aircrewbuzz.com/2007/11/new-a340-600-in-ground-accident-at.html

 

Just because it was painted with the name of the Abu Dhabi carrier Eithad Airways you make the implication that "Arabs" are incompetent because they "wrecked" a brand new A-340-600.  A quick search would have provided the correct, uncolored information but instead you posted clearly biased  misinformation.  Would it have been as comic had the aircraft been painted with British Airway colors?

 

"At the time of the accident, there were nine people on board the aircraft, including two Airbus staff, and seven employees of Abu Dhabi Aircraft Technologies (ADAT). Five of those nine people were injured, but as of today only the two Airbus employees and one ADAT employee remained hospitalized. None of their injuries are reported to be life-threatening.

 

Etihad Airways confirms that there were no Etihad staff involved in the accident."



Sorry, I don't find humor in misinformation thinly masking bigotry.  I guess that is why we should limit the subjects of this list to RV-10 related issues.

 

William

http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/

"Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."

-- Dr. Suess

 

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GRANSCOTT(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:16 am Post subject: WRECKED A340-600 at TULOUSE FRANCE 11-07

In a message dated 2/22/2008 12:08:17 PM Central Standard Time,  wcurtis(at)nerv10.com writes:

  	  Quote: 	
		  That's    in jest --right?  I can't tell?

	


 

 I was hoping to lighten the moment and work off of the  comment...

  

 P  8-]



Delicious ideas to please the pickiest eaters. Watch the video on AOL Living.

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gerf(at)gerf.com
Guest

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:29 am Post subject: WRECKED A340-600 at TULOUSE FRANCE 11-07

Obviously I'm not William nor speaking for him  ..

  

 But ...

  

 I'm reminded of the quote (I forgot who) "All that must  happen for evil to triumph is for good people to do  nothing."

  

 "Evil" is a bit over the top in this case and the perceived  "bigotry" may not have been intended, but the implication of the words crossed  my mind to.  If I were to take issue with the post it would be that there  was ANY humor in people getting hurt, some seriously, in an aviation accident of  any kind.  "There but for the grace of [add your favorite content] go  I".

  

 Lets get back to building and wish the unfortunate victims  a speedy recovery.

  

 g

  



   From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Eric  Ekberg

Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 11:04 AM

To:  rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: WRECKED A340-600 at  TULOUSE FRANCE 11-07

 

 William,

  

 I can't help but wonder, if it had been "Americans wrecked a plane"  instead, would you still pull the racism card?

  

 Also, how does your accusation that a member is a bigot help the RV  community?  Even were it true (which I doubt it is - but I wouldn't care  anyway as this is a RV-10 list, not a let's fight bigotry list), wouldn't it be  better to just ignore it and move on?

 

 -Eric

 do not archive

 

 

 On 2/22/08, William  Curtis <wcurtis(at)nerv10.com (wcurtis(at)nerv10.com)>  wrote:  [quote]-->    RV10-List message posted by: "William Curtis" <wcurtis(at)nerv10.com (wcurtis(at)nerv10.com)>



David,



Try    at least to contain you bigotry with a post that begins with "Arabs WRECKED    A340-600"

http://aircrewbuzz.com/2007/11/new-a340-600-in-ground-accident-at.html



Just    because it was painted with the name of the Abu Dhabi carrier Eithad Airways    you make the implication that "Arabs" are incompetent because they "wrecked" a    brand new A-340-600.  A quick search would have provided the    correct, uncolored information but instead you posted clearly    biased  misinformation.  Would it have been as comic had    the aircraft been painted with British Airway colors?



"At the time of    the accident, there were nine people on board the aircraft, including two    Airbus staff, and seven employees of Abu Dhabi Aircraft Technologies (ADAT).    Five of those nine people were injured, but as of today only the two Airbus    employees and one ADAT employee remained hospitalized. None of their injuries    are reported to be life-threatening.



Etihad Airways confirms that there    were no Etihad staff involved in the accident."



Sorry, I don't find    humor in misinformation thinly masking bigotry.  I guess that is why    we should limit the subjects of this list to RV-10 related    issues.



William

http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/

"Be who    you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those    who matter don't mind."

-- Dr. Suess



-------- Original Message    --------

 	  Quote: 	
		  

 TIMEOUT FOR HUMOR

 Arabs    WRECKED A340-600 at TULOUSE FRANCE 11-07

 These are    pictures of the wreck of a brand new A340-600, that had never

 flown.    (never saw (1) hour in the air)

 Thank these French and    their Arab friends for this bit of "comedy of

    errors".

 Nine employees of the Arab airline were in    the aircraft, but "no employees"

 from Airbus were    present.

 The Arab's taxied out to the run-up    area.

 Then they took all four engines to takeoff power    with virtually an empty

 aircraft. (They obvious didn't read the run-up    manuals.)

 No chocks were set, (not that it would have    mattered at that power setting).

 "Brakes will not hold    it back at full power anyway".

 As it turns out the    takeoff warning horn was blaring away in the cockpit

 because they had    all FOUR engines at full power.

 The aircraft computers    thought they were trying to takeoff but it had not

 been configured    properly (flaps/slats, etc, etc).

 Then one of these    brain surgeons decided to pull the "Ground Sense"

 circuit breaker to    quiet the alarms.

 This fools the aircraft into    thinking it is in the air."A big, big    mistake"!



 As soon as they did that, the    computers automaticlly "released" all the

 brakes. ("this is a Safety    feature so that pilots don't land with the brakes

 on".)There was No    time to stop and no one smart enough thought to reduce the

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wcurtis(at)nerv10.com
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:53 am Post subject: WRECKED A340-600 at TULOUSE FRANCE 11-07

Thanks Gene!  That EXACT quote came to mind as I read the below reply however I did not intend to respond since this thread has taken away much RV-10 building time from list participants.



William

http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/

"Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."

-- Dr. Suess 



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