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		amhoner(at)rtmc.net Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 10:43 am    Post subject: Toughest e-mail I ever wrote | 
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				I have lost the sight of my left eye, and will sell  my carefully built 601XL for about one half of what I have in it.
   
  Includes Jab 3300 mounted in fitted cowling,  firewall forward, dual sticks, hinged ailerons, aileron trim. Fuselage ,wings  and tail are complete and have been test mounted and cables rigged. wings are  back off.
   
  fuselage is complete less about half the work to  finish the canopy...Ready to install the systems, decide what instruments and  radios to buy and to put in it and do that job.
   
  Airplane is in N.C., and can be had for $17,500.  Off- line inquiries please...Lots of pictures
   
  EAA guy says "excellent"
   
  amhoner(at)rtmc.net...336-857-1151 ([email]amhoner(at)rtmc.net...336-857-1151[/email])
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
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		Tim Juhl
 
  
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				 Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 3:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Toughest e-mail I ever wrote | 
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				Friend,
 I'm sorry that you feel you must sell your XL.  Such decisions are never easy.
 
 I would like to point out that in my flying career I have worked with two pilots who had sight in only one eye and each went on to earn their private licenses.  One owned and flew a Piper Arrow for many years.  Also, let us not forget the great Wiley Post.
 
 Good luck!
 
 Tim Juhl
 
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				 Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 4:18 pm    Post subject: Toughest e-mail I ever wrote | 
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				Also, Saburu Sakai, Japan's greatest living ace. Lost one eye in 1943 and
 went on to score many more kills (over 80 total)! 
 
 Gary Boothe 
 Cool, CA 
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				 Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 4:52 pm    Post subject: Toughest e-mail I ever wrote | 
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				 Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 5:21 pm    Post subject: Toughest e-mail I ever wrote | 
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				What you pay attention to matters much more than  how many eyes you see things with. Disappointment is inevitable. Surrender,  however, is still optional. Give it a while. It seems a shame to walk away  from an excellent aircraft.
   
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		Larry Hursh
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 5:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Toughest e-mail I ever wrote | 
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				Please, please, PLEASE......do yourself a really BIG FAVOR (and the rest of us that are feeling your pain and sorrow).  Do NOT SELL YOUR LOVE OF FLIGHT!!  Hold on to your airplane for several years until you get a more definitive idea of what your limitations are.  As others have said to you before, they know of, or are personal friends of people that HAVE FLOWN and DO FLY with only one eye!!  Sure, things are going to be hard to adjust to at first, but in time, your body DOES learn to adapt - and it adapts quite well for the most part.  Give yourself some space and time.  Do those things you need to to complete your "baby".....I would hate to see you give up this dream while you're in this state of mind.  Learn to drive your car first and then see how it goes.  Remember too, you do NOT NEED a General Aviation License to fly this!  You can claim you will fly this under the new Light Sport Class, which you only need a valid driver's license!!  DO NOT go for another flight medical.....you do not want to be denied for any reason.  You do NOT need a medical to fly under the Light Sport!!!  Please check out what I am telling you.  The Zodiac CH601XL IS A "PERFECT" Light Sport aircraft!  
 
 I hope I've given you something to really think about and a sense of hope for your future in flying.....don't EVER give up your dreams!  
 
 Blue Skies Always,
 Larry H
 
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"One rivet at a time......one day at a time.."
 
 
CH650 (Converted from CH601XL)
 
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		Jaybannist(at)cs.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 6:13 pm    Post subject: Toughest e-mail I ever wrote | 
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				Personal experience:  During my fuselage build, I suffered a detached retina.  Beyond surgery, part of the correction was inserting a gas bubble in the eyeball to keep the retina pressed against the lining of the eyeball.  The gas was slowly absorbed and it was gone in about six weeks.  But while it was there, I couldn't see through that bubble; so I had single eye vision for a while.  Sure, it really eliminated "normal" depth perception, but I kept building. I keenly recall drilling the flap actuator bracket to its support, upside down, using a mirror and one good eye. It CAN be done. Please give yourself some time to adjust before deciding to chuck it. Please.
 
 Jay in Dallas 601XL N2630J "Lil Bruiser"
 
 "skyridersbn" <skyridersbn(at)yahoo.com> wrote:
 
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 Please, please, PLEASE......do yourself a really BIG FAVOR (and the rest of us that are feeling your pain and sorrow).  Do NOT SELL YOUR LOVE OF FLIGHT!!  Hold on to your airplane for several years until you get a more definitive idea of what your limitations are.  As others have said to you before, they know of, or are personal friends of people that HAVE FLOWN and DO FLY with only one eye!!  Sure, things are going to be hard to adjust to at first, but in time, your body DOES learn to adapt - and it adapts quite well for the most part.  Give yourself some space and time.  Do those things you need to to complete your "baby".....I would hate to see you give up this dream while you're in this state of mind.  Learn to drive your car first and then see how it goes.  Remember too, you do NOT NEED a General Aviation License to fly this!  You can claim you will fly this under the new Light Sport Class, which you only need a valid driver's license!!  DO NOT go for another flight med!
  ical.....you do not want to be denied for any reason.  You do NOT need a medical to fly under the Light Sport!!!  Please check out what I am telling you.  The Zodiac CH601XL IS A "PERFECT" Light Sport aircraft!  
 
 I hope I've given you something to really think about and a sense of hope for your future in flying.....don't EVER give up your dreams!  
 
 Blue Skies Always,
 Larry H
 
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		craig(at)craigandjean.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 6:42 pm    Post subject: Toughest e-mail I ever wrote | 
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				If you haven’t lost you medical yet then you can fly as a sport pilot – no questions asked. The only medical requirement for sport pilot is that you hold a valid driver’s license.  
    
 -- Craig  
        
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  Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 11:40 AM
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 I have lost the sight of my left eye, and will sell my carefully built 601XL for about one half of what I have in it.  
     
    
     
 Includes Jab 3300 mounted in fitted cowling, firewall forward, dual sticks, hinged ailerons, aileron trim. Fuselage ,wings and tail are complete and have been test mounted and cables rigged. wings are back off.  
     
    
     
 fuselage is complete less about half the work to finish the canopy...Ready to install the systems, decide what instruments and radios to buy and to put in it and do that job.  
     
    
     
 Airplane is in N.C., and can be had for $17,500. Off- line inquiries please...Lots of pictures  
     
    
     
 EAA guy says "excellent"  
     
    
     
 amhoner(at)rtmc.net...336-857-1151 ([email]amhoner(at)rtmc.net...336-857-1151[/email])  
     
    
     
    
     
    
     
    
     
    
     
    
     
    
     
    
     
    
     
    
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		Ron Lendon
 
  
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				 Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 7:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Toughest e-mail I ever wrote | 
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				This is a poem my father taught me that has helped many times in my life.
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 It Couldn't Be Done
 Edgar Guest 
 
 Somebody said that it couldn't be done,
   But he with a chuckle replied
 That "maybe it couldn't," but he would be one
   Who wouldn't say so till he'd tried.
 So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
   On his face.  If he worried he hid it.
 He started to sing as he tackled the thing
   That couldn't be done, and he did it.
 
 Somebody scoffed: "Oh, you'll never do that;
   At least no one ever has done it";
 But he took off his coat and he took off his hat,
   And the first thing we knew he'd begun it.
 With a lift of his chin and a bit of a grin,
   Without any doubting or quiddit,
 He started to sing as he tackled the thing
   That couldn't be done, and he did it.
 
 There are thousands to tell you it cannot be done,
   There are thousands to prophesy failure;
 
 There are thousands to point out to you, one by one,
   The dangers that wait to assail you.
 But just buckle in with a bit of a grin,
   Just take off your coat and go to it;
 Just start to sing as you tackle the thing
   That "cannot be done," and you'll do it.
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 Many good people here want to see you continue with your dream of flying.  Give it time.
 
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WW Corvair with Roy's Garage 5th bearing
 
CH 601 XLB
 
N601LT  - Flying
 
http://www.mykitlog.com/rlendon
 
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		kmccune
 
  
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				 Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 3:58 am    Post subject: Re: Toughest e-mail I ever wrote | 
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				Don't do it! For all the reasons stated above and simply because, it takes a human to pilot an airplane. You can still breath and you can still see, my guess is that your humanity didn't leave you. So by my count, you can still be a pilot. Hell, because of your loss, you'll most likely end of being a better, safer pilot just because you pay more attention to whats going on then you would have with both eyes! Don't sell yourself short, give it an honest chance.
 
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  _________________ “Always do what you are afraid to do.”
 
R.W. Emerson (1803-1882)
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 3:59 am    Post subject: Toughest e-mail I ever wrote | 
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				My best friend left his left eye behind in Viet Nam. He flys almost every  day, I don't think he even misses that eye anymore.
  Carroll
   
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				 Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 8:04 am    Post subject: Toughest e-mail I ever wrote | 
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				Michael:
 
 Let me make you aware of the work of Professor Ian Howard, a clinical
 psychologist at York University in Toronto.  Ian showed, with detailed
 experimentation, and even managed to convince Transport Canada, that a
 person does not use two eyes for stereoscopic vision at a distance beyond
 about 10 feet.  That is, in landing an aircraft, you are NOT using
 stereoscopic vision, so that one (good) eye is essentially as useful as
 two.  One gets depth perception from the brain trained to reference on
 all the other surrounding objects beyond 10 feet.
 
 John Goodings, C-FGPJ, CH601HD with R912S, Toronto/Carp/Ottawa.
 
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		jmcburney(at)pobox.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 12:47 pm    Post subject: Toughest e-mail I ever wrote | 
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				My ophthalmologist (sp?) told me, and I've tried it and found it to be true,
 that our binocular vision only gives us depth perception to about fifteen
 feet.  Beyond that it's the brain's ability to interpolate/extrapolate using
 known shapes and apparent movement that gives us depth perception.  So, as
 Larry Hursh wrote a few posts ago, Give yourself some space and time.  Our
 bodies are "fearfully and wonderfully made", and adapt to many seemingly
 insurmountable difficulties.  Reread Larry's post, print it out, keep it and
 read it when you feel like surrendering, and keep your dream!
 
 Blue skies and tailwinds
 
 Jim
 CH-801
 DeltaHawk diesel
 Augusta GA
 90% done, 90% left
 
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		Kevin Bonds
 
  
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				 Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 2:43 pm    Post subject: Toughest e-mail I ever wrote | 
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				Micheal
 
 I have a unique perspective on this. I lost sight almost entirely in my 
 left eye when I was about 13. Got into a fight with a struck nail while 
 building a skateboard ramp. My vision was about 20-400 if I squinted. I 
 lost the natural lens in my eye and the doc didn't want to put in an 
 implant since I was still growing.  Before the accident I was a good 
 shot with a basketball. Afterwards for a while I couldn't hit the "broad 
 side of a barn" and I bumped into a lot of walls and furniture. But in a 
 few months time I was hitting baskets again just like nothing was lost. 
 I didn't miss my eye after a while. as a matter of fact I waited until 
 my late 20's to have that implant put in. Bad news is, the first one was 
 too small and slipped downward causing me to see through the 
 edge--giving me double vision in that eye for a couple of years (I had 
 to wait to totally heal before redoing the operation). But one of the 
 "visions" was almost 20-20. Even the seeing of double out of one eye 
 didn't bother me that much after a while. As long as I didn't close my 
 good eye, my brain would compensate by filtering out the incorrect of 
 the two "visions". So don't get down. Give yourself some time. I am 
 speaking from experience.
 
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		bryanmmartin
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 8:32 pm    Post subject: Toughest e-mail I ever wrote | 
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				One of the great legends of aviation, Wiley Post, only had one eye. He set two records for flying around the world, the second one solo. He developed a pressure for high altitude flying. The loss of an eye didn't effect his ability to fly.
 On Feb 23, 2008, at 1:40 PM, A. Michael Honer wrote:
  	  | Quote: | 	 		  I have lost the sight of my left eye, and will sell my carefully built 601XL for about one half of what I have in it.
  
 Includes Jab 3300 mounted in fitted cowling, firewall forward, dual sticks, hinged ailerons, aileron trim. Fuselage ,wings and tail are complete and have been test mounted and cables rigged. wings are back off.
  
 fuselage is complete less about half the work to finish the canopy...Ready to install the systems, decide what instruments and radios to buy and to put in it and do that job.
  
 Airplane is in N.C., and can be had for $17,500. Off- line inquiries please...Lots of pictures
  
 EAA guy says "excellent"
  
 amhoner(at)rtmc.net...336-857-1151 ([email]amhoner(at)rtmc.net...336-857-1151[/email])
  
  
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 Bryan Martin
 N61BM, CH 601 XL,
 RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.
 do not archive.
 
  
 
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