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				|  Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 6:08 am    Post subject: Convention Gear Europa |   |  
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				| Hi all,
 Well at last my conventional gear kit is ready to be shipped.  It was
 my intention to fit this over the winter, so I guess it becomes next
 winters project.
 
 In the mean time I am going to start accumulating parts, photographs
 etc. in preparation.  I am looking for some experience and advice
 about brakes.  I have tracked down finger brakes used for dune
 buggies.  Does anyone know if they are similar as to what is used in
 the Trig gear ? See:
 
 http://www.mooreparts.com/store/product/2257/CNC452SB-34/
 
 They are available in two bore sizes, 5/8 and 3/4.  What bore sizes
 are used in the Europa ?  Also, what type of brake fluid is used ?
 
 I have taken delivery of a jack screw drive for my flaps, could
 someone point me towards the trigear install pages that detail out how
 this is fitted.
 
 Thanks,  Paul
 
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		| g-iani(at)ntlworld.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 7:51 am    Post subject: Convention Gear Europa |   |  
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				| Paul
 The finger brakes used in the original Mod 65 are made by Jamar. They
 are 3/4 bore.  They are similar those you have found.  Those of us who
 used the Jamar cylinder had lots of problems.
 
 Mod 65 is now supplied with Matco master cylinders (MC4) which are much
 better.
 
 If you want more detail e-mail me off list.
 
 Ian Rickard G-IANI XS Trigear, 200 hours
 Europa Club Mods Rep (Trigear)
 e-mail mods(at)europaclub.org.uk
 or direct g-iani(at)ntlworld.com
 
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		| jeff(at)rmmm.net Guest
 
 
 
 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 10:54 am    Post subject: Convention Gear Europa |   |  
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				| Paul,
Paul,
 I stuck with the original cylinders. They just needed cleaned out and
 the o rings changed. Plus the side bleed ports leaked but some gasket
 seal on the threads fixed that. The Jarmar ones your looking at appear
 to be different but of better quality. I've heard good things from
 others that have used them. I believe they are like the original that
 came with the kit in that they use dot 5 fluid. I found it at Advanced
 Auto Parts.
 Hoe this helps.
 Regards,
 Jeff R.
 A258 - N128LJ / Gold Rush 106 hours and climbing slowly and still
 fussing with cooling.
 On Mar 15, 2008, at 8:02 AM, Paul McAllister wrote:
 
 
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 Hi all,
 
 Well at last my conventional gear kit is ready to be shipped.  It was
 my intention to fit this over the winter, so I guess it becomes next
 winters project.
 
 In the mean time I am going to start accumulating parts, photographs
 etc. in preparation.  I am looking for some experience and advice
 about brakes.  I have tracked down finger brakes used for dune
 buggies.  Does anyone know if they are similar as to what is used in
 the Trig gear ? See:
 
 http://www.mooreparts.com/store/product/2257/CNC452SB-34/
 
 They are available in two bore sizes, 5/8 and 3/4.  What bore sizes
 are used in the Europa ?  Also, what type of brake fluid is used ?
 
 I have taken delivery of a jack screw drive for my flaps, could
 someone point me towards the trigear install pages that detail out how
 this is fitted.
 
 Thanks,  Paul
 
 
 
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		| ami(at)mcfadyean.freeserv Guest
 
 
 
 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 10:54 am    Post subject: Convention Gear Europa |   |  
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				| A smaller and lighter version (which should be globally available) of the 
Factory behemoths can be found on the back of a trials bike. Try the parts
 catalogues at:
 http://www.gasgasuk.com/gas-gas-spare-parts.php
 I expect that there is a US equivalent.
 These have a small bore, but that doesn't matter; the Factory versions have
 too large a bore; if you remember, the diameter of the calliper cylinder on
 the monowheel had to be made larger to compensate. However, fluid/seal
 compatability will need to be matched with the calipers.
 
 Duncan McF.
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		| karelvranken(at)hotmail.c Guest
 
 
 
 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 1:20 am    Post subject: Convention Gear Europa |   |  
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				| Paul,
For wheels and brakes have a look at www.beringer.fr
 Karel Vranken.  F-PKRL
 
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		| rampil 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 5:37 am    Post subject: Re: Convention Gear Europa |   |  
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				| Just another data point,
I've used the Jamar master cylinders for in operation for almost
 4 years without a problem. They were recommended by FlightCrafters
 long before the factory gave in to hand brakes.  The only change I've
 made over the years is to increase the length of handle to increase
 the mechanical advantage.  My wheels and brakes are standard
 Matco.
 
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