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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:20 am    Post subject: New "Kolbee" ... New to the Forum Reply with quote

Don't you recognize our National Anthem?? -- "Hose A, can't you see --"
On Mar 17, 2008, at 6:49 AM, Denny Rowe wrote:

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> OK, I can't stand it any more- Who is Hose,B
> Larry C
> do not archive
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Ahhh, nevermind. :-p
Denny
That was a close one!

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:06 am    Post subject: New "Kolbee" ... New to the Forum Reply with quote

Don't you recognize our National Anthem?? -- "Hose A, can't you see --"
Hi Russ,

these Mexicans get everywhere,` Jose, can you see.....`

Cheers

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:18 am    Post subject: New "Kolbee" ... New to the Forum Reply with quote

> these Mexicans get everywhere,` Jose, can you see.....`
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Cheers

Pat


Patrick:

How is your flying and your aircraft coming along?

john h
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:51 am    Post subject: New "Kolbee" ... New to the Forum Reply with quote

How is your flying and your aircraft coming along?>>

John, you really know how to hurt a guy. After finally getting the plane
,and me, rechecked out and certicated with test flying etc all done just
before Xmas. I have run into electrical problems involving the fitting of a
larger battery, in a different place of course. This should be done in the
next couple of days and then I shall have to recalculate the C of G and then
with luck, Wx permitting, which is unlikely according to the forecast I may
be able to fly. Providing the strip is not still under water. We have
floods for the 3rd time this year. Gales and Very low temps forecast for
Easter.

Looking back. I wish that I had bought a plane from the second hand market
and then I would at least have continued to fly. during the protracted
rebuild and the follow on problems. Hindsight is always 20/20 vision.

Have fun on you planned trek to MV and beyond.

Cheers

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 1:15 pm    Post subject: Re: New Reply with quote

Regarding "missing" center section between wings on MkIII:

Attached are a couple photos of Bob Bean's MKIII (and my Allegro) with "missing" center section. You can't see it in the photo very well but Bob made some Lexan end plates (airflow fences) that are the shape of the airfoil plus about 2-3" all around. According to my memory, the addition of the airflow fences made a very big improvement compared to flying it without the fences. BB can chime in any time if my memory is in error.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:21 pm    Post subject: New "Kolbee" ... New to the Forum Reply with quote

I put the fences on after flying it with no center section. I could
tell a lot of lift was being lost.
The fences prevent spillage off the wing roots. I figure I have the
best arrangement due to
better airflow and less drag. Any airfoil that has an engine popping
up through it can't provide much lift.

I have since thought about a tip modification but won't mess with
that until I bash something.
BB

On 17, Mar 2008, at 5:15 PM, Thom Riddle wrote:

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Regarding "missing" center section between wings on MkIII:

Attached are a couple photos of Bob Bean's MKIII (and my Allegro)
with "missing" center section. You can't see it in the photo very
well but Bob made some Lexan end plates (airflow fences) that are
the shape of the airfoil plus about 2-3" all around. According to
my memory, the addition of the airflow fences made a very big
improvement compared to flying it without the fences. BB can chime
in any time if my memory is in error.

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N197BG FS1/447
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not even if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 3:09 am    Post subject: New "Kolbee" ... New to the Forum Reply with quote

At 10:17 PM 3/17/2008, robert bean wrote:

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I put the fences on after flying it with no center section. I could
tell a lot of lift was being lost.
The fences prevent spillage off the wing roots. I figure I have the
best arrangement due to
better airflow and less drag. Any airfoil that has an engine popping
up through it can't provide much lift.

Interesting. Hard to tell from the pictures, it looks like they're only
about 2" high, is that right? Surprising that such a low fence would have
that much effect. Another plus is that you could leave a cutout in the
root so you could see into the wing for inspection, and the lexan would
cover it. Do they get in the way of folding the wings?

-Dana
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I started out with nothing. I still have most of it left.


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