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				 Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:47 pm    Post subject: Recommendations for front air vents | 
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				Stein has some for $90-100 per copy.
 
 I don't recall if I sent out this link before but there are some pictures of
 Dave Saylor's RV-10 here:
 
 http://www.sinkrate.com/rv10/aircrafters-fiberglass-class/ 
 
 that show some pictures of his completed wheel pants with a similar setup.
 
 -Ben
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		msausen
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:54 pm    Post subject: Recommendations for front air vents | 
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				Our illustrious Stein has a popular vent:
 
 http://www.steinair.com/eyeballvents.htm
 
 Looks like he is out of stock on some though.  Stein, any idea when you will have more?
 
 Michael
 
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		Deems Davis
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:56 pm    Post subject: Recommendations for front air vents | 
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				Check out Stein, He's got the best prices on Vents, and they are TOP 
 quality. http://steinair.com/eyeballvents.htm
 
 Deems Davis # 406
 'Its all done....Its just not put together'
 http://deemsrv10.com/
 
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  Any recommendations for the front air vents?
  Vans wants $145 for the aluminum ones
 
  Aircraft Spruce has several varieties in the  $175 price range.
  Is this is the part of the building where you say to the dealer?
 
  ........ hit me .    
 
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				 Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:40 pm    Post subject: Recommendations for front air vents | 
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				We should have more of the smaller ones back in stock within a couple weeks.
 Lockheed called and bought every last one we had on the shelf so the stock
 situation has been hard to keep up with on those smaller ones!  We're trying
 to keep up, but when someone just buys all of them in one fell swoop it
 takes us a bit to catch back up.
 
 Cheers,
 Stein
 
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				 Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:02 pm    Post subject: Recommendations for front air vents | 
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				Deems, Michael and Ben. 
 
 Thanks. 
 
 Will give Stein a day to get over Sun -n Fun and call in am to see when 
 some will be available.   He'll probably see this later today. Now I can 
 tell my wife I saved $100 today. 
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				 Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 5:36 pm    Post subject: Recommendations for front air vents | 
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				Fred,
 I got 4 from a salvage yard not a scratch on them, nice Aluminum for less 
 than $100 after some negotiations. So there are other avenues.
 -Chris
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		Tim Olson
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 5:40 pm    Post subject: Recommendations for front air vents | 
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				Having done it both ways now, I'd say ABSOLUTELY go with
 the aluminum ones...the plastic ones suck.
 
 Anyone want a hot deal on plastic vents?  
 
 Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
 
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  Any recommendations for the front air vents?
  Vans wants $145 for the aluminum ones
  
  Aircraft Spruce has several varieties in the  $175 price range.
  Is this is the part of the building where you say to the dealer?
  
  ........ hit me .    
  
  
  Lew:  good job on the wheel pants.  Thanks for the reference, but I just 
  added the pics.  Our late friend, Mark Ritter showed me how to do it 
  when I looked at his plane a couple of months ago.  And I will be 
  "displeased" if you get flying before I do. 
  
  
  
  Fred Williams
  40515.
  
 
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		AirMike
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:05 pm    Post subject: Recommendations for front air vents | 
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				I ordered the one from Spruce, but the $56 is too small for the RV10 vent.
 I had to return it. They were good on the refund.
 
 Tim is correct on the metal ones. I bit the bullet and bought Van's vents for $145 (ouch). They do have a nice mounting flange that married up to the vent perfectly. I am unimpressed by them at that price, but I tried the junks and Wentworth, but could not get any. Stein's look good.
 
 It just about kills me to think that I saw a bunch of them at a crash site a few years ago and did not salvage them. They were in perfect condition. Good lesson.
 
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		thane
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:54 pm    Post subject: Recommendations for front air vents | 
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				Stein sells tem for just under $100.  They are very nice and I found a great 
 way to install them with no hardware or Proseal.
 Thane
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				 Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 3:18 pm    Post subject: Recommendations for front air vents | 
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				Thane - don't be coy.  I am about to instal Steins vents and was
 thinking of E6000 to attach them to the NACA ducts.  What was your
 method?  Contact me off list if this is a secret <grin>.
 
 Cheers,
 Ron
 187, almost there. 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 3:18 pm    Post subject: Recommendations for front air vents | 
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				OK, so tell us the secret..........
 
 Rene' Felker
 RV-10 N423CF Flying
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				 Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:39 am    Post subject: Recommendations for front air vents | 
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				The $18 plastic ones from Vans (approximate price) work fine if you add 
 a little RTV to seal the leak in the "closed" position.  I believe the 
 process is discussed in 21 Years of the RVator.  It's also discussed in 
 the RV-list archives.  I used it in my -6A, works well.  I'm doing the 
 same thing for my RV-10.
 
 Tim
 
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 RV-10 #40059 under construction
 
 Fred Williams, M.D. wrote:
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  Any recommendations for the front air vents?
  Vans wants $145 for the aluminum ones
 
  Aircraft Spruce has several varieties in the  $175 price range.
  Is this is the part of the building where you say to the dealer?
 
  ........ hit me .    
  Lew:  good job on the wheel pants.  Thanks for the reference, but I 
  just added the pics.  Our late friend, Mark Ritter showed me how to do 
  it when I looked at his plane a couple of months ago.  And I will be 
  "displeased" if you get flying before I do. 
 
  Fred Williams
  40515.
 
 
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		Tim Olson
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 3:51 am    Post subject: Recommendations for front air vents | 
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				Depends on what is "fine".  They leak without sealant,
 that's for sure, and they have no where near the flow
 of the aluminum.  I was lucky enough to get a pile of
 time with the old, and then switch to the aluminum.
 I'd never go back....they're actually worth the difference.
 But, for those on a super tight budget, it's an easy
 thing to use plastic for a while...one of the more
 painless future upgrades.
 
 Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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  a little RTV to seal the leak in the "closed" position.  I believe the 
  process is discussed in 21 Years of the RVator.  It's also discussed in 
  the RV-list archives.  I used it in my -6A, works well.  I'm doing the 
  same thing for my RV-10.
  
  Tim
  
 
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				 Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:54 pm    Post subject: Recommendations for front air vents | 
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				No secret, I just didn't know if anyone cared to hear.  But glad to share. 
 Here goes;  Go to lowes or H.D and B-line it for the plumbing department, 
 then look for the rubber fittings to attach PVC, in line, 1 1/2".  Get a 
 coupling for 1 1/2" pipe, it will be about 4" long and have two hose clamps 
 on each end.  You will need to cut the two ends off with a band saw, or your 
 weapon of choice. Cut just inside of the groove where the clamp sets.  You 
 will now have two couplings for each vent.
 Then you can use a dremal to cut the big flange off the NACA inlets, about 
 1/4 inch from the seam, or so you have 1 1/2" diameter left.  Then with the 
 nut ring still on the eyeball vent insert it into the rubber coupling and 
 place the whole unit over the NACA vent, and tighten the hose clamp.
 Sound complicated but take around 30 minutes.
 
 Let me know if you have questions.  I also have a pic of the end product, 
 looks real clean, is easy to remove, and eliminates the ugly white flange, 
 and requires no hardware or glue.
 Thane
 803-396-8865
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				 Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:13 pm    Post subject: Recommendations for front air vents | 
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  product, looks real clean, is easy to remove, and eliminates the ugly 
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 Linn
 
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				 Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 5:21 pm    Post subject: Recommendations for front air vents | 
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				Sorry the wife has camera.  I will post some pics tomorrow.
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				 Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 5:42 pm    Post subject: Recommendations for front air vents | 
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				Here are a few pics of my eyeball vent install as promised.  Hope these are 
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 Thane
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				 Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 1:52 pm    Post subject: Recommendations for front air vents | 
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				Thane,
 
 I am doing the same thing but what did you use to attach the vents to the inlet? I haven't installed them permanently yet but I was going to just use a 2" pipe clamp.
 
 Rick Sked
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				Rick, the coupling I used had the hose clamps already on each end, so I just 
 used them.  It holds very tight and you can barely see the clamp once it is 
 installed.
 Good luck, I am very pleased with the final look and function.
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