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		jwt(at)roadmapscoaching.c Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 6:37 pm    Post subject: Headliner rework | 
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				Tim,
 
 What final fabric or material did you use for your headliner? Did you worry
 about fire retardant material? How did you finish the edges around the
 windows, etc. I am looking for materials now since I am about to attach my
 canopy.
 
 John Testement
 jwt(at)roadmapscoaching.com
 40321
 Richmond, VA
 QB Canopy and window trimming
  
 
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		LarryRosen
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 7:12 pm    Post subject: Headliner rework | 
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				Not Tim but....
 
 I am using a light gray fabric (Marathon Collection Gray Mix) from Abby 
 at Flightline Interiors <http://my.execpc.com/~erdmannb/index.htm>.  The 
 material is flame resistant.  The specs say:
 Flame Resistance
 ASTM E-84     Class 1
 CAL 117-E       Passes
 MVSS 302        Passes
 UFAC                Class 1
 
 Motor Vehicle Safety Standards (MVSS) Flamability Test #302
 Every yard of Marathon production receives the superior flame retardant 
 (FR) finish so it passes the MVSS 302 FR test which makes it suitable 
 for automotive aftermarket and transportation applications.
 
 For the window edge treatment Abby's instructions say:
 "The edge around the windows will need to be trimmed with a utility 
 knife or razor blades.  To finish the edges you can use a hot soldering 
 iron to seal and smooth it.  This will also prevent any fraying. We 
 recommend sealing the edge above the baggage door too."
 
 Larry Rosen
 <http://lrosen.nerv10.com>
 
 John Testement wrote:
 
 [quote]
 
 Tim,
 
 What final fabric or material did you use for your headliner? Did you worry
 about fire retardant material? How did you finish the edges around the
 windows, etc. I am looking for materials now since I am about to attach my
 canopy.
 
 John Testement
 jwt(at)roadmapscoaching.com
 40321
 Richmond, VA
 QB Canopy and window trimming
  
 
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				 Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 8:54 pm    Post subject: Headliner rework | 
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				All of those fabrics she sells should be at least flame resistant
 to some point.  Probably none of them are aviation certified,
 but you can make your own judements on what's acceptable in
 that regard.  Sometimes it's just an on-paper certification
 difference, sometimes maybe it's not.
 
 But, just like Larry said, I soldered the edges with a fine-tip
 iron.
 
 Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
 do not archive
 Larry Rosen wrote:
 [quote] 
  
  Not Tim but....
  
  I am using a light gray fabric (Marathon Collection Gray Mix) from Abby 
  at Flightline Interiors <http://my.execpc.com/~erdmannb/index.htm>.  The 
  material is flame resistant.  The specs say:
  Flame Resistance
  ASTM E-84     Class 1
  CAL 117-E       Passes
  MVSS 302        Passes
  UFAC                Class 1
  
  Motor Vehicle Safety Standards (MVSS) Flamability Test #302
  Every yard of Marathon production receives the superior flame retardant 
  (FR) finish so it passes the MVSS 302 FR test which makes it suitable 
  for automotive aftermarket and transportation applications.
  
  For the window edge treatment Abby's instructions say:
  "The edge around the windows will need to be trimmed with a utility 
  knife or razor blades.  To finish the edges you can use a hot soldering 
  iron to seal and smooth it.  This will also prevent any fraying. We 
  recommend sealing the edge above the baggage door too."
  
  Larry Rosen
  <http://lrosen.nerv10.com>
  
  John Testement wrote:
  
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 > <jwt(at)roadmapscoaching.com>
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 > Tim,
 >
 > What final fabric or material did you use for your headliner? Did you 
 > worry
 > about fire retardant material? How did you finish the edges around the
 > windows, etc. I am looking for materials now since I am about to 
 > attach my
 > canopy.
 >
 > John Testement
 > jwt(at)roadmapscoaching.com
 > 40321
 > Richmond, VA
 > QB Canopy and window trimming
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		LarryRosen
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 4:24 am    Post subject: Headliner rework | 
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				Ahn used a molding around the windshield and windows as you can see on 
 his web site <http://www.geocities.com/anhvu_rv10/Fuselage3.html>
 
 Ahn, do you have any details?
 
 Larry Rosen
 
 Tim Olson wrote:
 
 [quote] 
 
  All of those fabrics she sells should be at least flame resistant
  to some point.  Probably none of them are aviation certified,
  but you can make your own judements on what's acceptable in
  that regard.  Sometimes it's just an on-paper certification
  difference, sometimes maybe it's not.
 
  But, just like Larry said, I soldered the edges with a fine-tip
  iron.
 
  Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
 
  Larry Rosen wrote:
 
 > 
 >
 > Not Tim but....
 >
 > I am using a light gray fabric (Marathon Collection Gray Mix) from 
 > Abby at Flightline Interiors 
 > <http://my.execpc.com/~erdmannb/index.htm>.  The material is flame 
 > resistant.  The specs say:
 > Flame Resistance
 > ASTM E-84     Class 1
 > CAL 117-E       Passes
 > MVSS 302        Passes
 > UFAC                Class 1
 >
 > Motor Vehicle Safety Standards (MVSS) Flamability Test #302
 > Every yard of Marathon production receives the superior flame 
 > retardant (FR) finish so it passes the MVSS 302 FR test which makes 
 > it suitable for automotive aftermarket and transportation applications.
 >
 > For the window edge treatment Abby's instructions say:
 > "The edge around the windows will need to be trimmed with a utility 
 > knife or razor blades.  To finish the edges you can use a hot 
 > soldering iron to seal and smooth it.  This will also prevent any 
 > fraying. We recommend sealing the edge above the baggage door too."
 >
 > Larry Rosen
 > <http://lrosen.nerv10.com>
 >
 > John Testement wrote:
 >
 >> 
 >> <jwt(at)roadmapscoaching.com>
 >>
 >> Tim,
 >>
 >> What final fabric or material did you use for your headliner? Did 
 >> you worry
 >> about fire retardant material? How did you finish the edges around the
 >> windows, etc. I am looking for materials now since I am about to 
 >> attach my
 >> canopy.
 >>
 >> John Testement
 >> jwt(at)roadmapscoaching.com
 >> 40321
 >> Richmond, VA
 >> QB Canopy and window trimming
 >>
 >>
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		jwt(at)roadmapscoaching.c Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:43 am    Post subject: Headliner rework | 
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				Tim, Which fabric did you choose and why did you prefer fabric over the foam
 backed headliner material?
 
 John Testement
 jwt(at)roadmapscoaching.com
 40321
 Richmond, VA
 QB canopy and windshield trim
  
 
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		zackrv8
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 6:52 am    Post subject: Re: Headliner rework | 
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				[quote="LarryRosen"]Ahn used a molding around the windshield and windows as you can see on 
 his web site <http://www.geocities.com/anhvu_rv10/Fuselage3.html>
 
 Ahn, do you have any details?
 
 Larry Rosen
 
   I visited Anh's Rv10 a couple of months ago.  He has a very nice fabric on his headliner (I forgot the name).  I think he also has a closed cell foam behind it.  Not sure of the thinkness.
 
   Anh did all of his sewing on the interior.  He even did his seats.  Beautiful work.  He even made a cell phone pocket on the side of his seats!  Pretty cool.
 
 Zack
 
 See photos below.
 
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				 Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 7:04 am    Post subject: Headliner rework | 
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				[quote]From: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen(at)comcast.net>
 Reply-To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
 Subject: Re: Headliner rework
 Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 07:20:51 -0500
 
  
 Ahn used a molding around the windshield and windows as you can see on his 
 web site <http://www.geocities.com/anhvu_rv10/Fuselage3.html>
 
 Ahn, do you have any details?
 
 Larry Rosen
 
 Tim Olson wrote:
 
 >
 >
 >All of those fabrics she sells should be at least flame resistant
 >to some point.  Probably none of them are aviation certified,
 >but you can make your own judements on what's acceptable in
 >that regard.  Sometimes it's just an on-paper certification
 >difference, sometimes maybe it's not.
 >
 >But, just like Larry said, I soldered the edges with a fine-tip
 >iron.
 >
 >Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
 >
 >Larry Rosen wrote:
 >
 >>
 >>
 >>Not Tim but....
 >>
 >>I am using a light gray fabric (Marathon Collection Gray Mix) from Abby 
 >>at Flightline Interiors <http://my.execpc.com/~erdmannb/index.htm>.  The 
 >>material is flame resistant.  The specs say:
 >>Flame Resistance
 >>ASTM E-84     Class 1
 >>CAL 117-E       Passes
 >>MVSS 302        Passes
 >>UFAC                Class 1
 >>
 >>Motor Vehicle Safety Standards (MVSS) Flamability Test #302
 >>Every yard of Marathon production receives the superior flame retardant 
 >>(FR) finish so it passes the MVSS 302 FR test which makes it suitable for 
 >>automotive aftermarket and transportation applications.
 >>
 >>For the window edge treatment Abby's instructions say:
 >>"The edge around the windows will need to be trimmed with a utility knife 
 >>or razor blades.  To finish the edges you can use a hot soldering iron to 
 >>seal and smooth it.  This will also prevent any fraying. We recommend 
 >>sealing the edge above the baggage door too."
 >>
 >>Larry Rosen
 >><http://lrosen.nerv10.com>
 >>
 >>John Testement wrote:
 >>
 >>>
 >>><jwt(at)roadmapscoaching.com>
 >>>
 >>>Tim,
 >>>
 >>>What final fabric or material did you use for your headliner? Did you 
 >>>worry
 >>>about fire retardant material? How did you finish the edges around the
 >>>windows, etc. I am looking for materials now since I am about to attach 
 >>>my
 >>>canopy.
 >>>
 >>>John Testement
 >>>jwt(at)roadmapscoaching.com
 >>>40321
 >>>Richmond, VA
 >>>QB Canopy and window trimming
 >>>
 >>>
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				 Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 7:04 am    Post subject: Headliner rework | 
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				Larry,
 
 That looks fantastic.  Great job. Thanks for sharing.
 
 JG.
 
 Do NOt Archive
 [quote]From: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen(at)comcast.net>
 Reply-To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
 Subject: Re: Headliner rework
 Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 07:20:51 -0500
 
  
 Ahn used a molding around the windshield and windows as you can see on his 
 web site <http://www.geocities.com/anhvu_rv10/Fuselage3.html>
 
 Ahn, do you have any details?
 
 Larry Rosen
 
 Tim Olson wrote:
 
 >
 >
 >All of those fabrics she sells should be at least flame resistant
 >to some point.  Probably none of them are aviation certified,
 >but you can make your own judements on what's acceptable in
 >that regard.  Sometimes it's just an on-paper certification
 >difference, sometimes maybe it's not.
 >
 >But, just like Larry said, I soldered the edges with a fine-tip
 >iron.
 >
 >Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
 >
 >Larry Rosen wrote:
 >
 >>
 >>
 >>Not Tim but....
 >>
 >>I am using a light gray fabric (Marathon Collection Gray Mix) from Abby 
 >>at Flightline Interiors <http://my.execpc.com/~erdmannb/index.htm>.  The 
 >>material is flame resistant.  The specs say:
 >>Flame Resistance
 >>ASTM E-84     Class 1
 >>CAL 117-E       Passes
 >>MVSS 302        Passes
 >>UFAC                Class 1
 >>
 >>Motor Vehicle Safety Standards (MVSS) Flamability Test #302
 >>Every yard of Marathon production receives the superior flame retardant 
 >>(FR) finish so it passes the MVSS 302 FR test which makes it suitable for 
 >>automotive aftermarket and transportation applications.
 >>
 >>For the window edge treatment Abby's instructions say:
 >>"The edge around the windows will need to be trimmed with a utility knife 
 >>or razor blades.  To finish the edges you can use a hot soldering iron to 
 >>seal and smooth it.  This will also prevent any fraying. We recommend 
 >>sealing the edge above the baggage door too."
 >>
 >>Larry Rosen
 >><http://lrosen.nerv10.com>
 >>
 >>John Testement wrote:
 >>
 >>>
 >>><jwt(at)roadmapscoaching.com>
 >>>
 >>>Tim,
 >>>
 >>>What final fabric or material did you use for your headliner? Did you 
 >>>worry
 >>>about fire retardant material? How did you finish the edges around the
 >>>windows, etc. I am looking for materials now since I am about to attach 
 >>>my
 >>>canopy.
 >>>
 >>>John Testement
 >>>jwt(at)roadmapscoaching.com
 >>>40321
 >>>Richmond, VA
 >>>QB Canopy and window trimming
 >>>
 >>>
 >>>--
 
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				 Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 6:09 am    Post subject: Headliner rework | 
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				Ahn,
 
 How did you do your headliner - looks great! How did you trim the edges?
 What foam/sound insulation did you use under the fabric, if any?
 
 John Testement
 jwt(at)roadmapscoaching.com
 40321
 Richmond, VA
 QB canopy and windshield trim
 
  
 
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