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		Dick Sipp
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 4:38 pm    Post subject: Service Bulletin 08-6-1 | 
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				Just saw a new service bulletin on the RV10 on Van's web  sight. 
   
  We have some work to do.
   
  Dick Sipp
   
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		Andy Turner
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 5:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Service Bulletin 08-6-1 | 
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				http://www.vansaircraft.com/pdf/sb08-6-1.pdf
 
 This might be the only time I wish I was a bit slower in building a component  - Just got this one finished a couple of months ago, now i get to drill all those nice rivets back out. 
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				 Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 5:35 pm    Post subject: Service Bulletin 08-6-1 | 
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				Dick,  
    
 Can you get it done before you get paint?  Hopefully they haven’t started yet.  
    
 bob  
        
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 Just saw a new service bulletin on the RV10 on Van's web sight.   
     
    
     
 We have some work to do.  
     
    
     
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				 Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 5:46 pm    Post subject: Service Bulletin 08-6-1 | 
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				I think I am going to be sick at the thought of taking the elevator/pitch trim apart again!   But! Better now than when I am flying.
 David Maib
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 On Jun 9, 2008, at 7:34 PM, rsipp wrote:Just saw a new service bulletin on the RV10 on Van's web sight.
  
 We have some work to do.
  
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		Dick Sipp
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 6:41 pm    Post subject: Service Bulletin 08-6-1 | 
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				Bob:
   
  I hope so, the airplane is in the paint shop now and was not  due for finish painting until next week.  I asked them to "go slow" until I  can get the parts and get over there to install.  The pre-paint disassemble  has already been done so that will help a little.  I think the mod could be  done after painting but it would be more difficult and nerve racking.  We  may have caught this one in the nick of time.
   
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				 Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 6:43 pm    Post subject: Service Bulletin 08-6-1 | 
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				As people complete this SB, it will be interesting to see how many others see some cracks. 
 That will take some time to fix.  
 I swear that even after getting the plane flying I work on it 1 hour for every hour that I fly it. 
 (not really but sometimes it feels like that)
  
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				 Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 6:51 pm    Post subject: Service Bulletin 08-6-1 | 
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				Join the crowd!
 
 But I think I'm on the other side of the power curve now.....if only 
 the SB had come out when I had the bird apart for painting!
 
 Not going to tackle this one till next ACI unless a crack appears.
 
 Grumpy N184JM
 
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		roadmaps
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 7:20 pm    Post subject: Service Bulletin 08-6-1 | 
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				Best I can tell this mod does not effect the exterior paint nor require any
 repainting. If any of you  find out that this is not the case let me know.
 My fuse is at the painter. The emp is not attached. I assume I can do the
 mod before I do final assembly.
 
 John Testement
 jwt(at)roadmapscoaching.com
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 Richmond, VA
 Painting and final assembly
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		ron.mcgann(at)baesystems. Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 7:46 pm    Post subject: Service Bulletin 08-6-1 | 
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				G'day all,
   
  Removing AN470 rivets is greatly simplified with Avery's  Rivet removal tool (Part #40053).  But removing the rivet shank without  mangling the longerons is going to be a right PITA.  Anyone have any  suggestions or useful techniques for removing rivets from thick material?   Driving them out has not worked well for me in the past.
   
  cheers 
  Ron
  -187 (who stupidly thought he was nearly  finished)
   
 
  [quote]         From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com    [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of    rsipp
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    Just saw a new service bulletin on the RV10 on Van's web    sight. 
     
    We have some work to do.
     
    Dick Sipp
     
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				 Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 8:15 pm    Post subject: Service Bulletin 08-6-1 | 
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				Yeah but Scott, 
 You fly it ALOT!!!!  jealous...another death in the family to deal with today...not super close but close enough.. 
 Rick Sked 
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				 Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 10:10 pm    Post subject: Service Bulletin 08-6-1 | 
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				Yep but will give me something to do since the  DYNON is still not back from being repaired.
  Thick material I take the head off give a tap and  with pliers give the driven part of the rivet a turn to loosen it. 
   
  Chris
   
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		Tim Olson
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:06 am    Post subject: Service Bulletin 08-6-1 | 
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				A few people have asked me off-line if I've seen anything of the
 SB or the cracks associated.  Well, yesterday I was on a good x/c
 trip.  Quite an adventure, actually, so no, it was all news to me,
 and of course, unless you're looking hard for cracks in just the
 right place, you'd never catch them on an inspection, so no, I
 didn't notice any on mine...but I didn't look hard at that area
 either.
 
 On person suggested using a hi-res digital camera (or HD video
 cam for that matter...I just got one) to do the inspection.
 Probably a great idea.
 
 I've also heard from someone hoping to find an alternate method
 of compliance.  I'm sure there could be many ways of doing
 reinforcements.
 
 I plan to, once my kit arrives, get it done soon.  I cringe
 every time I'm in turbulence.  I've never had super trust in
 strength of materials....valid or not.  The other area that
 always gets my stomach twisted are those 2 L-brackets that
 hold the Horizontal Stab on at the front spar. But, I've always
 figured that it must be engineered strong enough.  At least
 that's what I tell myself as I'm banging along in the bumps.
 I'm just hoping that once this is all done, there is plenty
 of strength, because it's going to be a major pain in the
 rear to disassemble this, and I don't want to do it again.
 So sorry, no news to add here, but I'll probably take pictures
 and write it up when I do the job.
 Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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		indigoonlatigo(at)msn.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:11 am    Post subject: Service Bulletin 08-6-1 | 
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				A good reason for selling my future, beautifully completed RV10 and getting a two place sailplane. Just have to tell the third person in my family tough luck you can't go today. My single place sailplane, 500+ hours and no problems. Except for vacuuming and washing, almost maintainence free.
   
  One step forward one step back.
   
  Think I'll keep working toward completion to make sure this cures the problem before I tear it down.
   
  John G. 409
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 From: scottmschmidt(at)yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: Service Bulletin 08-6-1
 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
 
    .ExternalClass DIV {;}    As people complete this SB, it will be interesting to see how many others see some cracks. 
 That will take some time to fix.  
 I swear that even after getting the plane flying I work on it 1 hour for every hour that I fly it. 
 (not really but sometimes it feels like that)
   
 Scott Schmidtscottmschmidt(at)yahoo.com
  
 
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				 Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:57 am    Post subject: Service Bulletin 08-6-1 | 
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				Good idea. Remember the V tail Bonanza: fixed a few times before  it finally had enough rivets and doublers in the tail.
 
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 A good reason for selling my future, beautifully completed RV10 and  getting a two place sailplane. Just have to tell the third person in my family  tough luck you can't go today. My single place sailplane, 500+ hours and no  problems. Except for vacuuming and washing, almost maintainence  free.
  
 One step forward one step back.
  
 Think I'll keep  working toward completion to make sure this cures the problem before I tear it  down.
  
 John G. 409
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       .ExternalClass DIV { 	 }     As    people complete this SB, it will be interesting to see how many others see    some cracks. 
 That will take some time to fix.  
 I swear that even    after getting the plane flying I work on it 1 hour for every hour that I fly    it. 
 (not really but sometimes it feels like that)
     
 Scott    Schmidtscottmschmidt(at)yahoo.com
    
 
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				 Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:07 pm    Post subject: Service Bulletin 08-6-1 | 
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				The truth is I get alot of enjoyment out of the flying, the work and maintenance.  I don't have to work on it as much as I do but I want to make sure I am at the front of the useful life curve on everything.  When you change the oil every 25 hours, new brakes every 150 - 200 hours, prop lube every 100 hours, tire rotation about every 150 hours, new plugs in the electronic ignition every 100 - 125 hours, the annual every year and then little things that you want to improve, you put some time into the plane. 
 
 But in return for all the work I have a totally awesome cross country machine that I can travel with and is completely reliable.  When I get ready to go somewhere I don't even think twice about something failing because I know the maintenance has been completed and  everything is in proper working order.  With a Cirrus or other production plane, you really have no idea if something is wrong because you don't get the feel for when things are 50% worn and need replacing.
 
 With a new plane we can probably expect a few issues like this.  It is still one of the most fun four place planes out there. 
  
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				 Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:07 pm    Post subject: Service Bulletin 08-6-1 | 
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				Regarding Tim's comment  
 "One person suggested using a hi-res digital camera (or HD video cam for that matter...I just got one) to do the inspection.  
 Probably a great idea."  
    
 I just came across this device called a QuickPod (~$25.00) One could set the timer for a photo or just video the area:  
    
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				 Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:24 pm    Post subject: Service Bulletin 08-6-1 | 
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				By using a digital camera to tap a few pictures of the area, I'll bet you can put the camera in the rear inspect cover opening and be able to see this area well instead of removing the emp fairing which has a ton more screws.  Thoughts?
 
 Ray Doerr
 
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				Wish you were next door and we could tackle 2 birds at the same 
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				 Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:13 pm    Post subject: Service Bulletin 08-6-1 | 
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				Did the inspection tonight and all is well after 34 hours.  Took about 15
 minutes and was easy to get a good look with the fairing off.
 
 Rene'
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