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tomhanaway

Joined: 12 Aug 2006
Posts: 111
Location: Murphy, NC

Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 10:02 am Post subject: Panel extended or work-around of lower panel support flange

I'd like to get rid of the line of nut plates along the bottom of the panel to make the whole lower flange area of the panel (F-1003B) useable without interference and still have structural rigidity.



I understand one alternative might be Stein's extended panel but I'm concerned about conflict with forward movement of control stick.



Another might be to have a single piece panel cut with support brackets on the ends and no separate lower flange.



It's a really tight fit for two AFS 4500's on the pilots side plus three 2 & 1/4" backup instruments.



Has anyone come up with alternatives.  Especially those that are actually flying  



Additional comment: Since the EFIS mounting will require the radio stack to be off center, I'm looking for a flat metal panel as opposed to one that has been cut modular with the radio stack directly in  the center.



Thanks,

Tom Hanaway

" I can make it work, I'm just not sure how yet."

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jesse(at)saintaviation.co
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Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 12:56 pm Post subject: Panel extended or work-around of lower panel support flange

You can design your panel in CAD and have it cut by a laser or  

waterjet shop quite easily.  Then you can either use the ends of the  

Van's bar to hold the panel at the sides of the airframe of you can  

develop some other sort of support for the lower side of the panel.  I  

can't imagine that two #3 rivets in either end of that really do that  

much structurally to support the bottom of the panel.  Also, if you  

use the standard system, then it is always in the way when you are  

working behind the panel, either with part or all of it out.  If you  

use a one-piece panel (at least one-piece from top to bottom) you get  

a LOT of extra real estate.  However, to get two 4500's in the panel  

and a good radio stack and backups, you will likely need to make it a  

little bigger than standard.  I am in the process of helping someone  

make one (see attached drawing).  Those 4500's take up a lot of panel  

space, but the functionality and ease of use with the 2nd knob and the  

joystick seem to make that worth it, as well as the processor and  

brighter screen.



By the way, splitting the panel horizontally is very helpful in  

installing and removing it.  That area is very tight for a single- 

piece panel, not to mention the hastle of needing to remove the entire  

panel to work behind part of it.



Contact me off-list if you would like more info.



do not archive



Jesse Saint

Saint Aviation, Inc.

jesse(at)saintaviation.com

Cell: 352-427-0285

Fax: 815-377-3694

On Jun 14, 2008, at 2:03 PM, tomhanaway wrote:



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 I'd like to get rid of the line of nut plates along the bottom of  

 the panel to make the whole lower flange area of the panel (F-1003B)  

 useable without interference and still have structural rigidity.



 I understand one alternative might be Stein's extended panel but I'm  

 concerned about conflict with forward movement of control stick.



 Another might be to have a single piece panel cut with support  

 brackets on the ends and no separate lower flange.



 It's a really tight fit for two AFS 4500's on the pilots side plus  

 three 2 & 1/4" backup instruments.



 Has anyone come up with alternatives.  Especially those that are  

 actually flying [Laughing]



 Thanks,

 Tom Hanaway

 " I can make it work, I'm just not sure how yet."





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AirMike

Joined: 27 Feb 2007
Posts: 514
Location: Nevada

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 10:24 pm Post subject: Panel extended or work-around of lower panel support flange

I am not so sure about the placement of those vents.

I think that they might fall more easily under the panel lower flange

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