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dlm46007(at)cox.net
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 Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:29 am Post subject: SB |
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I spoke with Scott R at Vans and the pictures of the actual crack should be on their site by tomorrow. I don't believe that the diagram as previously reported is correct, as the flat version of the part would actually have two tabs at the outboard top edge. My understanding is that the crack would be in the tab that is riveted to the longeron.
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| Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:39 pm Post subject: SB |
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I've been thinking about doing something to this area for some time. What I had decided to do, but had not done yet, is to put a mirror image angle on the aft side of F-1010 like on the forward side. I would then have two angles with a total of four bolts to the longeron. Not knowing all the details of the fix, they seem to treating a symptom and not the cause. It seems that an additional angle would reduce twist and also strengthen the attachment. I am planning to do this in addition to Van's SB. I would like to hear what others think.
In addition, I had already planned to add another angle at the aft portion of where the VS attaches to the tailcone.
Dave Syvertson
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Dave(at)AirCraftersLLC.co
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| Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 2:15 pm Post subject: SB |
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I just finished looking at our plane. No cracks after 141 hours. The inspection is easy with the emp fairing off. I'm not going to pull the tail off unless more people find cracks or unless there's a better reason.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters LLC
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA
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dlm46007(at)cox.net
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| Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 3:09 pm Post subject: SB |
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agreed. The aircraft I would like to hear about are those who flew with a misrigged trim and experienced twisting force on opposite halves of the elevator.
33 hours and obviously not enough time to crack?
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Saylor
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I just finished looking at our plane. No cracks after 141 hours. The inspection is easy with the emp fairing off. I'm not going to pull the tail off unless more people find cracks or unless there's a better reason.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters LLC
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA
831-722-9141
831-750-0284 CL
www.AirCraftersLLC.com
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dlm46007(at)cox.net
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| Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 5:33 pm Post subject: SB |
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Check the vans site ; the service bulletin now includes pictures of the crack and installation of the doublers. Their original description of a crack in the tab is incorrect. see the pictures
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| Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 5:55 pm Post subject: SB |
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Curious that the crack appeared on the left side. Seems like that is the same side that a mis rigged trim setup would cause twisting of the elevator halves in flight under some circumstances.
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wayne.e(at)grandecom.net
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| Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:42 am Post subject: SB |
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I and another RV10, both of us flying, on my field performed the SB yesterday and found no cracks. As Dave said it's fairly easy to perform the inspection with the emp fairing off, with a flex mirror and flash light. I have about 125 hours and I think the other 10 has about 60 hours. I plan on waiting on pulling the tail off for now and do like Dave and continue the inspections.
Wayne Edgerton N602WT
Time: 03:15:35 PM PST US From: "Dave Saylor" <Dave(at)AirCraftersLLC.com (Dave(at)AirCraftersLLC.com)> Subject: SB
I just finished looking at our plane. No cracks after 141 hours. The
inspection is easy with the emp fairing off. I'm not going to pull the tail
off unless more people find cracks or unless there's a better reason.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters LLC
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA
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831-750-0284 CL
www.AirCraftersLLC.com
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| Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:05 pm Post subject: Re: SB |
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Perhaps it's time to take another look at why the RV-10 even needs two trim tabs....
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 10:36 am Post subject: SB |
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33 hours no cracks N46007
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 5:43 pm Post subject: SB |
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N184JM
65 hrs and no cracks.
Great borescope tool is the SeeSnake offered by Home Depot for under $200!
grumpy
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jesse(at)saintaviation.co
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| Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:59 am Post subject: SB |
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N256H503 Hrs and no cracks
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
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[quote] N184JM
65 hrs and no cracks.
Great borescope tool is the SeeSnake offered by Home Depot for under $200!
grumpy
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| Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 3:28 pm Post subject: SB |
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as an example of why we need for info about the cause of the damage to 220RV.
I just received ,today, a new SB for my Glastar. In the SB ; the writer states that all counterweights for the elevator must be inspected visually for cracks in the aluminum where the screws hold the counterweight in place. In addition it says that these counterweights must be inspected every annual. Now the fiberglass tips have never been off my Glastar and the building instructions have them installed with blind rivets. Big change.................... Now the rest of the story. The only airplane to experience a problem was a "two weeks to taxi " build that was being shipped from the factory to the builders address. The elevator was stored/transported by truck vertically without the fiberglass tip in place. Damage occurred...Then somebody decided at the factory to issue an SB to all flying aircraft. what a crock.
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sam(at)fr8dog.net
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| Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:11 pm Post subject: SB |
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N540MR
120 hrs and looks like new, no cracks!
Jesse Saint wrote: [quote]N256H 503 Hrs and no cracks
Jesse Saint
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65 hrs and no cracks.
Great borescope tool is the SeeSnake offered by Home Depot for under $200!
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Fixitauto(at)AOL.COM
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| Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 4:46 am Post subject: SB |
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Rick so how many drilled out and replaced rivets will this bring your total up to?
Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars.
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ricksked(at)embarqmail.co
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| Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:06 am Post subject: SB |
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LOL....well these will be the first ones for real, I messed up one on my practice kit...except of course the ones for the Vertical Stab SB and all of Bob Kauffmans I helped drill out for him. ...I knew that crack about never having to drill one out would come back sometime!! Thanks for putting a big smile on my face to start the day.
Rick Sked
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bob.kaufmann(at)cox.net
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| Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:45 am Post subject: SB |
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ROFLMAO……Every time I go over to Rick’s its like walking on a floor covered with little bitty aluminum donuts, wonder why they are all over the place.
Bob Kaufmann
N104BK, In the air, just a couple of inches.
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From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Sked
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 5:59 AM
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LOL....well these will be the first ones for real, I messed up one on my practice kit...except of course the ones for the Vertical Stab SB and all of Bob Kauffmans I helped drill out for him. ...I knew that crack about never having to drill one out would come back sometime!! Thanks for putting a big smile on my face to start the day.
Rick Sked
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ricksked(at)embarqmail.co
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| Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 7:20 am Post subject: SB |
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Those are not drilled out rivets...they are microstop shavings.
Rick Sked
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dougpflyrv(at)gmail.com
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| Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 1:17 pm Post subject: SB |
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N372RV - 117 HRS. LOOKS GOOD AS NEW.
DOUG PRESTON
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On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 9:05 PM, Sam <sam(at)fr8dog.net (sam(at)fr8dog.net)> wrote:
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120 hrs and looks like new, no cracks!
Jesse Saint wrote:
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