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Phil.Perry(at)netapp.com
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 Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:26 am Post subject: Fuselage before wings? |
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Can anyone see a reason why I couldn't complete the fuse kit before the wings?
I was planning on going with the wings next but with the economic uncertainty ahead of us, I'm thinking a fuse kit might be a better option.
If I purchase QB wings, I would probably be ready for the fuse purchase in a few months. If I bought a fuse, I could keep busy for a longer period of time (On meaningful projects) while the economy has more time to recover. I could:
1) Finish the fuse kit.
2) Join it to the tail cone.
3) Fit the canopy area.
4) Run systems for fuel, static, control systems, etc.
5) Run wiring
6) Setup ELT's, etc, etc, etc.
The more I think about it, the more I think a fuse kit makes better sense at this time. Especially if you're wanting to burn time on meaningful tasks, instead of burning time waiting for the economy to recover while your completed wings sit in the cradle.
Thoughts on doing a fuse kit before the wings???
Phil
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:52 am Post subject: Fuselage before wings? |
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I agree that the fuse has much more to do and will keep you busy for a long time...but down side C you will be spending a lot more money on all the stuff you will be doing.
John G. Do Not Archive
Subject: Fuselage before wings?
Date: Mon C 17 Nov 2008 11:24:58 -0800
From: Phil.Perry(at)netapp.com
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Can anyone see a reason why I couldn't complete the fuse kit before the wings?
I was planning on going with the wings next but with the economic uncertainty ahead of us C I'm thinking a fuse kit might be a better option.
If I purchase QB wings C I would probably be ready for the fuse purchase in a few months. If I bought a fuse C I could keep busy for a longer period of time (On meaningful projects) while the economy has more time to recover. I could:
1) Finish the fuse kit.
2) Join it to the tail cone.
3) Fit the canopy area.
4) Run systems for fuel C static C control systems C etc.
5) Run wiring
6) Setup ELT's C etc C etc C etc.
The more I think about it C the more I think a fuse kit makes better sense at this time. Especially if you're wanting to burn time on meaningful tasks C instead of burning time waiting for the economy to recover while your completed wings sit in the cradle.
Thoughts on doing a fuse kit before the wings???
Phil
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 12:12 pm Post subject: Fuselage before wings? |
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Yes, the part of the spar for the fuselage comes in the wing kit. I suspect you can make arrangements to purchase it outside of the kit.
If economics is an issue, why not just go normal build, save the QB fees and take a little longer? The wings aren’t that difficult, just a lot of repetitive tasks. Although I will admit know that I’m just finishing the wings myself, I think the fuselage build will be more enjoyable since it will start looking like an aircraft quickly. The fuselage may also require more investment for instruments, engine, etc.
I don’t think order is significant. You should be able to do either successfully with proper coordination with Van’s to get all the necessary parts.
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Perry, Phil
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 2:25 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Fuselage before wings?
Can anyone see a reason why I couldn't complete the fuse kit before the wings?
I was planning on going with the wings next but with the economic uncertainty ahead of us, I'm thinking a fuse kit might be a better option.
If I purchase QB wings, I would probably be ready for the fuse purchase in a few months. If I bought a fuse, I could keep busy for a longer period of time (On meaningful projects) while the economy has more time to recover. I could:
1) Finish the fuse kit.
2) Join it to the tail cone.
3) Fit the canopy area.
4) Run systems for fuel, static, control systems, etc.
5) Run wiring
6) Setup ELT's, etc, etc, etc.
The more I think about it, the more I think a fuse kit makes better sense at this time. Especially if you're wanting to burn time on meaningful tasks, instead of burning time waiting for the economy to recover while your completed wings sit in the cradle.
Thoughts on doing a fuse kit before the wings???
Phil
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kearney
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 12:12 pm Post subject: Fuselage before wings? |
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Phill
I bought the fuse (slow build) before my QB wings. The QB wings are pretty quick to complete – only two skins and some conduit to run. Everything else riveting wise is done.
If you get the slow build fuse, be sure to let them know that you have not done the wings. You will need the Center Section of the wings as it goes through the fuse. As well, the wing bolts come with the wings and you will need these as well. What you can do, is get some el cheapo bolts and save the close tolerance bolts for when you attach the wings – this is what I did. A slow build fuse will keep you occupied for a while to be sure.
I wanted to do the fuse as it is a major bit of kit to construct and I though the experience would be a good thing – it was.
Cheers
Les Kearney
#40643 – some assembly required.
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Perry, Phil
Sent: November-17-08 12:25 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Fuselage before wings?
Can anyone see a reason why I couldn't complete the fuse kit before the wings?
I was planning on going with the wings next but with the economic uncertainty ahead of us, I'm thinking a fuse kit might be a better option.
If I purchase QB wings, I would probably be ready for the fuse purchase in a few months. If I bought a fuse, I could keep busy for a longer period of time (On meaningful projects) while the economy has more time to recover. I could:
1) Finish the fuse kit.
2) Join it to the tail cone.
3) Fit the canopy area.
4) Run systems for fuel, static, control systems, etc.
5) Run wiring
6) Setup ELT's, etc, etc, etc.
The more I think about it, the more I think a fuse kit makes better sense at this time. Especially if you're wanting to burn time on meaningful tasks, instead of burning time waiting for the economy to recover while your completed wings sit in the cradle.
Thoughts on doing a fuse kit before the wings???
Phil
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bwestfall
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 12:13 pm Post subject: Fuselage before wings? |
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You’ll need to get the center wing spar section that comes with the wing kit. Without it you cannot get very far. It takes about 6mo to get the fuse to the quickbuild point. Big dollar items follow that pretty quickly.
-Ben
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Perry, Phil
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 11:25 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Fuselage before wings?
Can anyone see a reason why I couldn't complete the fuse kit before the wings?
I was planning on going with the wings next but with the economic uncertainty ahead of us, I'm thinking a fuse kit might be a better option.
If I purchase QB wings, I would probably be ready for the fuse purchase in a few months. If I bought a fuse, I could keep busy for a longer period of time (On meaningful projects) while the economy has more time to recover. I could:
1) Finish the fuse kit.
2) Join it to the tail cone.
3) Fit the canopy area.
4) Run systems for fuel, static, control systems, etc.
5) Run wiring
6) Setup ELT's, etc, etc, etc.
The more I think about it, the more I think a fuse kit makes better sense at this time. Especially if you're wanting to burn time on meaningful tasks, instead of burning time waiting for the economy to recover while your completed wings sit in the cradle.
Thoughts on doing a fuse kit before the wings???
Phil
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brian-douglas(at)uiowa.ed
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 12:18 pm Post subject: Fuselage before wings? |
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That’s the route I took and for nearly the same reason. It seemed like I’d be done with the QB wings before I had time to save up for the fuselage kit. On the other hand, there’s lots of stuff to keep you busy in the fuse kit while you save up for QB wings.
-Brian
Iowa City, IA
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From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Perry, Phil
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 1:25 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Fuselage before wings?
Can anyone see a reason why I couldn't complete the fuse kit before the wings?
I was planning on going with the wings next but with the economic uncertainty ahead of us, I'm thinking a fuse kit might be a better option.
If I purchase QB wings, I would probably be ready for the fuse purchase in a few months. If I bought a fuse, I could keep busy for a longer period of time (On meaningful projects) while the economy has more time to recover. I could:
1) Finish the fuse kit.
2) Join it to the tail cone.
3) Fit the canopy area.
4) Run systems for fuel, static, control systems, etc.
5) Run wiring
6) Setup ELT's, etc, etc, etc.
The more I think about it, the more I think a fuse kit makes better sense at this time. Especially if you're wanting to burn time on meaningful tasks, instead of burning time waiting for the economy to recover while your completed wings sit in the cradle.
Thoughts on doing a fuse kit before the wings???
Phil
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Phil.Perry(at)netapp.com
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 2:34 pm Post subject: Fuselage before wings? |
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Thanks everyone for the responses.
Brian: Did Vans work with you on the center wing carry through???
Thanks,
Phil
From: Douglas, Brian S [mailto:brian-douglas(at)uiowa.edu]
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 2:18 PM
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That’s the route I took and for nearly the same reason. It seemed like I’d be done with the QB wings before I had time to save up for the fuselage kit. On the other hand, there’s lots of stuff to keep you busy in the fuse kit while you save up for QB wings.
-Brian
Iowa City, IA
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From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Perry, Phil
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 1:25 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Fuselage before wings?
Can anyone see a reason why I couldn't complete the fuse kit before the wings?
I was planning on going with the wings next but with the economic uncertainty ahead of us, I'm thinking a fuse kit might be a better option.
If I purchase QB wings, I would probably be ready for the fuse purchase in a few months. If I bought a fuse, I could keep busy for a longer period of time (On meaningful projects) while the economy has more time to recover. I could:
1) Finish the fuse kit.
2) Join it to the tail cone.
3) Fit the canopy area.
4) Run systems for fuel, static, control systems, etc.
5) Run wiring
6) Setup ELT's, etc, etc, etc.
The more I think about it, the more I think a fuse kit makes better sense at this time. Especially if you're wanting to burn time on meaningful tasks, instead of burning time waiting for the economy to recover while your completed wings sit in the cradle.
Thoughts on doing a fuse kit before the wings???
Phil
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woxofswa
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:22 pm Post subject: Re: Fuselage before wings? |
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I bought the fuse kit first. Van's is easy to work with on it and said that the option is becoming more and more popular. The center spar kit is aprrox $1300 and packs within the fuse kit.
1/8 inch toggle bolts inside standard automotive fuel line make perfect dummy wing bolts for contruction. I would rather have the real bolts virgin for final assembly anyway.
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brian-douglas(at)uiowa.ed
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| Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 8:57 am Post subject: Fuselage before wings? |
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Yeah, just let them know what you're doing and they'll pack it in with
the rest of the fuselage. As mentioned it's going to cost you an extra
$1,300 or so but then you get to subtract that back out on the wing kit.
-Brian
Iowa City, IA
#40497
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Perry, Phil
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 4:32 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Fuselage before wings?
Thanks everyone for the responses.
Brian: Did Vans work with you on the center wing carry through???
Thanks,
Phil
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From: Douglas, Brian S [mailto:brian-douglas(at)uiowa.edu]
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 2:18 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Fuselage before wings?
That's the route I took and for nearly the same reason. It seemed like
I'd be done with the QB wings before I had time to save up for the
fuselage kit. On the other hand, there's lots of stuff to keep you busy
in the fuse kit while you save up for QB wings.
-Brian
Iowa City, IA
#40497
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Perry, Phil
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 1:25 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Fuselage before wings?
Can anyone see a reason why I couldn't complete the fuse kit before the
wings?
I was planning on going with the wings next but with the economic
uncertainty ahead of us, I'm thinking a fuse kit might be a better
option.
If I purchase QB wings, I would probably be ready for the fuse purchase
in a few months. If I bought a fuse, I could keep busy for a longer
period of time (On meaningful projects) while the economy has more time
to recover. I could:
1) Finish the fuse kit.
2) Join it to the tail cone.
3) Fit the canopy area.
4) Run systems for fuel, static, control systems, etc.
5) Run wiring
6) Setup ELT's, etc, etc, etc.
The more I think about it, the more I think a fuse kit makes better
sense at this time. Especially if you're wanting to burn time on
meaningful tasks, instead of burning time waiting for the economy to
recover while your completed wings sit in the cradle.
Thoughts on doing a fuse kit before the wings???
Phil
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