 |
Matronics Email Lists
Web Forum Interface to the Matronics Email Lists
|
| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com
Guest
|
 Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 3:49 pm Post subject: Indicator lights - what functions to include |
 |
|
Looking for thoughts regarding indicator/annunciator lights on my
panel. Some of the particulars include:
dual buss dual batt dual alt
3 screen GRT HX
GRT EIS (hidden)
Garmin stack
PS 9000
TT AP
TT ADI
My plan so far includes:
Door open - 2 lights
Low Voltage - 2 lights - 1 per buss
I'm thinking it makes sense to add 1 low oil pressure light
That's 5 lights
Some of that can be displayed thru the GRTs but I'm thinking it makes
sense to have the 5 tracked independent of the GRTs
The GRT can drive an indicator or 3 but I'm unable to figure out a use
for it.
I would love to hear what others are doing or planning.
Thanks
Bill "building a panel" Watson
| | - The Matronics RV10-List Email Forum - | | | Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List |
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
n142ds(at)gmail.com
Guest
|
| Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 6:01 pm Post subject: Indicator lights - what functions to include |
|
|
I currently have Primary and Secondary BUS low voltage, EIS warning (oil pressure only at startup), EFIS warning, X-Feed engaged, Starter engaged and Fuel Pump On.
Remember when ordering your EIS to specify a remote line to silence the EIS warning ...! If it's buried like mine, it's not available to silence the alarm.
I'll send you a picture off-line. I have a wonderful new system that allows for dimming and push to test for a mixture of both positive and negative triggered lamps!
David W. Schaefer
RV-6A N142DS "Nerdgasm"
TMX-IO360 Dual-LightSpeed Plasma IIIs, Hartzell Blended Airfoil, GRT EFIS HS
www.n142ds.com
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 5:48 PM, MauleDriver <MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com (MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com)> wrote:
[quote] --> RV10-List message posted by: MauleDriver <MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com (MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com)>
Looking for thoughts regarding indicator/annunciator lights on my panel. Some of the particulars include:
dual buss dual batt dual alt
3 screen GRT HX
GRT EIS (hidden)
Garmin stack
PS 9000
TT AP
TT ADI
My plan so far includes:
Door open - 2 lights
Low Voltage - 2 lights - 1 per buss
I'm thinking it makes sense to add 1 low oil pressure light
That's 5 lights
Some of that can be displayed thru the GRTs but I'm thinking it makes sense to have the 5 tracked independent of the GRTs
The GRT can drive an indicator or 3 but I'm unable to figure out a use for it.
I would love to hear what others are doing or planning.
Thanks
Bill "building a panel" Watson
[b]
| | - The Matronics RV10-List Email Forum - | | | Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List |
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
scottmschmidt(at)yahoo.co
Guest
|
| Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 7:09 pm Post subject: Indicator lights - what functions to include |
|
|
I used 5 indicator lights from Lancair.
My lights are:
"Master Caution" - This is connected to the GRT EIS which goes off if any of the parameters are exceeded (voltage, pressures, fuel, ect...)
"Alternator Caution" - This is connected to the B&C Specialty controller
"Door Ajar" - I have my doors connected to this one light. If one of the four proximity sensors is open the door ajar light is illuminated.
"Left Fuel Low" and "Right Fuel Low" - these two are connected to the fuel guardian which are two sensors set at 5 gallons in the tank.
Additionally, the Cheltons also have settings which have audible alerts if anything is exceeded. It will say "Check Engine" and then highlight the problem area.
Hope that gives you some more information.
Here is a picture of the 5 annunciators.
http://scottandranae.smugmug.com/gallery/3587176_3q6DT#433807776_pKJhW-A-LB
Scott Schmidtscottmschmidt(at)yahoo.com
From: MauleDriver <MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com>
To: RV10-List Digest Server <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2008 4:48:26 PM
Subject: Indicator lights - what functions to include
--> RV10-List message posted by: MauleDriver <MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com (MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com)>
Looking for thoughts regarding indicator/annunciator lights on my panel. Some of the particulars include:
dual buss dual batt dual alt
3 screen GRT HX
GRT EIS (hidden)
Garmin stack
PS 9000
TT AP
TT ADI
My plan so far includes:
Door open - 2 lights
Low Voltage - 2 lights - 1 per buss
I'm thinking it makes sense to add 1 low oil pressure light
That's 5 lights
Some of that can be displayed thru the GRTs but I'm thinking it makes sense to have the 5 tracked independent of the GRTs
The GRT can drive an indicator or 3 but I'm unable to figure out a use for it.
I would love to hear what others are doing or planning.
Thanks
Bill "building a panel" [quote][b]
| | - The Matronics RV10-List Email Forum - | | | Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List |
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
glastar(at)gmx.net
Guest
|
| Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 11:16 pm Post subject: Indicator lights - what functions to include |
|
|
Add one for the CO detector
you might add for fuel pumps
and you could go for low fuel detectors
br Werner
MauleDriver wrote:
| Quote: |
Looking for thoughts regarding indicator/annunciator lights on my
panel. Some of the particulars include:
dual buss dual batt dual alt
3 screen GRT HX
GRT EIS (hidden)
Garmin stack
PS 9000
TT AP
TT ADI
My plan so far includes:
Door open - 2 lights
Low Voltage - 2 lights - 1 per buss
I'm thinking it makes sense to add 1 low oil pressure light
That's 5 lights
Some of that can be displayed thru the GRTs but I'm thinking it makes
sense to have the 5 tracked independent of the GRTs
The GRT can drive an indicator or 3 but I'm unable to figure out a use
for it.
I would love to hear what others are doing or planning.
Thanks
Bill "building a panel" Watson
|
| | - The Matronics RV10-List Email Forum - | | | Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List |
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
bcondrey
Joined: 03 Apr 2006
Posts: 580
|
| Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 6:35 am Post subject: Indicator lights - what functions to include |
|
|
Bill,
I've got L&R door, main & aux low voltage, oil pressure (driven
independent of the EIS), x-feed enabled, starter engaged, EFIS Warn.
I have an array of 10 indicators and currently have the last 2 as fuel
pump & pitot heat on. I am either going to change these to incorporate
the ignition fail warning lights for the dual LSE ignition system
(recent addition to the LSE website) or put a couple of LEDs near the
starter switch.
The starter engaged and EFIS warn could easily be eliminated and you
wouldn't miss much. I created an array of 10 simply because it is above
the radio stack and that made the width very close to the same and gave
me some option of swapping for something more important in the future
(like the LSE failure warnings).
Bob
N442PM flying
MauleDriver wrote:
| Quote: |
Looking for thoughts regarding indicator/annunciator lights on my
panel. Some of the particulars include:
dual buss dual batt dual alt
3 screen GRT HX
GRT EIS (hidden)
Garmin stack
PS 9000
TT AP
TT ADI
My plan so far includes:
Door open - 2 lights
Low Voltage - 2 lights - 1 per buss
I'm thinking it makes sense to add 1 low oil pressure light
That's 5 lights
Some of that can be displayed thru the GRTs but I'm thinking it makes
sense to have the 5 tracked independent of the GRTs
The GRT can drive an indicator or 3 but I'm unable to figure out a use
|
| Quote: | for it.
I would love to hear what others are doing or planning.
Thanks
Bill "building a panel" Watson
|
| | - The Matronics RV10-List Email Forum - | | | Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List |
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com
Guest
|
| Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 8:12 am Post subject: Indicator lights - what functions to include |
|
|
I'm burying my EIS too. I haven't studied the alarm situation there closely but my intent was to drive everything thru the EFIS and hopefully configure the EIS to run silent and deep. I'll have to look for that wire.
What do you see tripping the EFIS warning? Is that a fully configurable feature in the GRT HS or is it a generic alarm used for a variety of conditions?
Thanks.
(I love this list-server)
David Schaefer wrote: [quote]I currently have Primary and Secondary BUS low voltage, EIS warning (oil pressure only at startup), EFIS warning, X-Feed engaged, Starter engaged and Fuel Pump On.
Remember when ordering your EIS to specify a remote line to silence the EIS warning ...! If it's buried like mine, it's not available to silence the alarm.
I'll send you a picture off-line. I have a wonderful new system that allows for dimming and push to test for a mixture of both positive and negative triggered lamps!
David W. Schaefer
RV-6A N142DS "Nerdgasm"
TMX-IO360 Dual-LightSpeed Plasma IIIs, Hartzell Blended Airfoil, GRT EFIS HS
www.n142ds.com
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 5:48 PM, MauleDriver <MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com (MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | --> RV10-List message posted by: MauleDriver <MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com (MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com)>
Looking for thoughts regarding indicator/annunciator lights on my panel. Some of the particulars include:
dual buss dual batt dual alt
3 screen GRT HX
GRT EIS (hidden)
Garmin stack
PS 9000
TT AP
TT ADI
My plan so far includes:
Door open - 2 lights
Low Voltage - 2 lights - 1 per buss
I'm thinking it makes sense to add 1 low oil pressure light
That's 5 lights
Some of that can be displayed thru the GRTs but I'm thinking it makes sense to have the 5 tracked independent of the GRTs
The GRT can drive an indicator or 3 but I'm unable to figure out a use for it.
I would love to hear what others are doing or planning.
Thanks
Bill "building a panel" Watson
href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
|
[b]
| | - The Matronics RV10-List Email Forum - | | | Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List |
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com
Guest
|
| Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 8:15 am Post subject: Indicator lights - what functions to include |
|
|
Scott, I have been unable to view your pics for awhile on smugmug. Perhaps I need to join or something.
Thanks
Scott Schmidt wrote: [quote] I used 5 indicator lights from Lancair.
My lights are:
"Master Caution" - This is connected to the GRT EIS which goes off if any of the parameters are exceeded (voltage, pressures, fuel, ect...)
"Alternator Caution" - This is connected to the B&C Specialty controller
"Door Ajar" - I have my doors connected to this one light. If one of the four proximity sensors is open the door ajar light is illuminated.
"Left Fuel Low" and "Right Fuel Low" - these two are connected to the fuel guardian which are two sensors set at 5 gallons in the tank.
Additionally, the Cheltons also have settings which have audible alerts if anything is exceeded. It will say "Check Engine" and then highlight the problem area.
Hope that gives you some more information.
Here is a picture of the 5 annunciators.
http://scottandranae.smugmug.com/gallery/3587176_3q6DT#433807776_pKJhW-A-LB
Scott Schmidt scottmschmidt(at)yahoo.com (scottmschmidt(at)yahoo.com)
From: MauleDriver <MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com> (MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com)
To: RV10-List Digest Server <rv10-list(at)matronics.com> (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2008 4:48:26 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Indicator lights - what functions to include
--> RV10-List message posted by: MauleDriver <MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com (MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com)>
Looking for thoughts regarding indicator/annunciator lights on my panel. Some of the particulars include:
dual buss dual batt dual alt
3 screen GRT HX
GRT EIS (hidden)
Garmin stack
PS 9000
TT AP
TT ADI
My plan so far includes:
Door open - 2 lights
Low Voltage - 2 lights - 1 per buss
I'm thinking it makes sense to add 1 low oil pressure light
That's 5 lights
Some of that can be displayed thru the GRTs but I'm thinking it makes sense to have the 5 tracked independent of the GRTs
The GRT can drive an indicator or 3 but I'm unable to figure out a use for it.
I would love to hear what others are doing or planning.
Thanks
Bill "building a panel" | Quote: |
href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
|
[b]
| | - The Matronics RV10-List Email Forum - | | | Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List |
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
bcondrey
Joined: 03 Apr 2006
Posts: 580
|
| Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 8:54 am Post subject: Indicator lights - what functions to include |
|
|
Bill,
I’ve also got my EIS buried. To eliminate its warnings all you have to do is to set its limits to zero and set the “real” limits to whatever values are appropriate on the EFIS. With the EIS buried you wind up having the access it for the initial setup and then again as you calibrate the fuel flow settings. Fuel tank level sender calibration is better done in the EFIS.
The EFIS Warning output is redundant with messages that you’ll get on the EFIS itself. If you’re trying to reduce annunciators that’s probably the least useful of all.
Bob
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of MauleDriver
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 10:13 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Indicator lights - what functions to include
I'm burying my EIS too. I haven't studied the alarm situation there closely but my intent was to drive everything thru the EFIS and hopefully configure the EIS to run silent and deep. I'll have to look for that wire.
What do you see tripping the EFIS warning? Is that a fully configurable feature in the GRT HS or is it a generic alarm used for a variety of conditions?
Thanks.
(I love this list-server)
David Schaefer wrote:
I currently have Primary and Secondary BUS low voltage, EIS warning (oil pressure only at startup), EFIS warning, X-Feed engaged, Starter engaged and Fuel Pump On.
Remember when ordering your EIS to specify a remote line to silence the EIS warning ...! If it's buried like mine, it's not available to silence the alarm.
I'll send you a picture off-line. I have a wonderful new system that allows for dimming and push to test for a mixture of both positive and negative triggered lamps!
David W. Schaefer
RV-6A N142DS "Nerdgasm"
TMX-IO360 Dual-LightSpeed Plasma IIIs, Hartzell Blended Airfoil, GRT EFIS HS
www.n142ds.com
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 5:48 PM, MauleDriver <MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com (MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com)> wrote:
--> RV10-List message posted by: MauleDriver <MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com (MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com)>
Looking for thoughts regarding indicator/annunciator lights on my panel. Some of the particulars include:
dual buss dual batt dual alt
3 screen GRT HX
GRT EIS (hidden)
Garmin stack
PS 9000
TT AP
TT ADI
My plan so far includes:
Door open - 2 lights
Low Voltage - 2 lights - 1 per buss
I'm thinking it makes sense to add 1 low oil pressure light
That's 5 lights
Some of that can be displayed thru the GRTs but I'm thinking it makes sense to have the 5 tracked independent of the GRTs
The GRT can drive an indicator or 3 but I'm unable to figure out a use for it.
I would love to hear what others are doing or planning.
Thanks
Bill "building a panel" Watson
| Quote: | | href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com |
0123456789 | Quote: | | href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution |
0 | Quote: | | href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution |
1 | Quote: | | href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution |
2 | Quote: | | href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution |
3 | Quote: | | href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution |
4 | Quote: | | href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution |
5 | Quote: | | href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution |
6 | Quote: | | href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution |
7 | Quote: | | href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution |
8
[quote][b]
| | - The Matronics RV10-List Email Forum - | | | Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List |
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
n142ds(at)gmail.com
Guest
|
| Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:27 pm Post subject: Indicator lights - what functions to include |
|
|
The EFIS warning is tripped by things like terrain alerts, obstacles etc. That alert can be re-set (or acknowledged) from the EFIS. However ANY warnings generated by the EIS must be cleared by the front buttons on the EIS or as I found out the hard way several years ago with a remote line out the back of the EIS to a button. The EIS goes back to GRT for this addition. I ran my wire into a db9 since it's just one wire sticking out the back of the EIS.
David W. Schaefer
RV-6A N142DS "Nerdgasm"
TMX-IO360 Dual-LightSpeed Plasma IIIs, Hartzell Blended Airfoil, GRT EFIS
www.n142ds.com
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 10:12 AM, MauleDriver <MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com (MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com)> wrote:
[quote] I'm burying my EIS too. I haven't studied the alarm situation there closely but my intent was to drive everything thru the EFIS and hopefully configure the EIS to run silent and deep. I'll have to look for that wire.
What do you see tripping the EFIS warning? Is that a fully configurable feature in the GRT HS or is it a generic alarm used for a variety of conditions?
Thanks.
(I love this list-server)
David Schaefer wrote: | Quote: | I currently have Primary and Secondary BUS low voltage, EIS warning (oil pressure only at startup), EFIS warning, X-Feed engaged, Starter engaged and Fuel Pump On.
Remember when ordering your EIS to specify a remote line to silence the EIS warning ...! If it's buried like mine, it's not available to silence the alarm.
I'll send you a picture off-line. I have a wonderful new system that allows for dimming and push to test for a mixture of both positive and negative triggered lamps!
David W. Schaefer
RV-6A N142DS "Nerdgasm"
TMX-IO360 Dual-LightSpeed Plasma IIIs, Hartzell Blended Airfoil, GRT EFIS HS
www.n142ds.com
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 5:48 PM, MauleDriver <MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com (MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com)> wrote:
|
[b]
| | - The Matronics RV10-List Email Forum - | | | Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List |
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com
Guest
|
| Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 4:16 am Post subject: Indicator lights - what functions to include |
|
|
Interesting. Is it possible or desirable to have the EIS configured so that it doesn't issue any warnings?
If not, I assume everyone who is hiding the EIS needs this wire configured into there system.
Regarding the EFIS - Are EFIS warnings issued on the screen or do they require an external indicator light/audio signal?
Thanks
David Schaefer wrote: [quote]The EFIS warning is tripped by things like terrain alerts, obstacles etc. That alert can be re-set (or acknowledged) from the EFIS. However ANY warnings generated by the EIS must be cleared by the front buttons on the EIS or as I found out the hard way several years ago with a remote line out the back of the EIS to a button. The EIS goes back to GRT for this addition. I ran my wire into a db9 since it's just one wire sticking out the back of the EIS.
David W. Schaefer
RV-6A N142DS "Nerdgasm"
TMX-IO360 Dual-LightSpeed Plasma IIIs, Hartzell Blended Airfoil, GRT EFIS
www.n142ds.com
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 10:12 AM, MauleDriver <MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com (MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | I'm burying my EIS too. I haven't studied the alarm situation there closely but my intent was to drive everything thru the EFIS and hopefully configure the EIS to run silent and deep. I'll have to look for that wire.
What do you see tripping the EFIS warning? Is that a fully configurable feature in the GRT HS or is it a generic alarm used for a variety of conditions?
Thanks.
(I love this list-server)
David Schaefer wrote: | Quote: | I currently have Primary and Secondary BUS low voltage, EIS warning (oil pressure only at startup), EFIS warning, X-Feed engaged, Starter engaged and Fuel Pump On.
Remember when ordering your EIS to specify a remote line to silence the EIS warning ...! If it's buried like mine, it's not available to silence the alarm.
I'll send you a picture off-line. I have a wonderful new system that allows for dimming and push to test for a mixture of both positive and negative triggered lamps!
David W. Schaefer
RV-6A N142DS "Nerdgasm"
TMX-IO360 Dual-LightSpeed Plasma IIIs, Hartzell Blended Airfoil, GRT EFIS HS
www.n142ds.com
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 5:48 PM, MauleDriver <MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com (MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | --> RV10-List message posted by: MauleDriver <MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com (MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com)>
Looking for thoughts regarding indicator/annunciator lights on my panel. Some of the particulars include:
dual buss dual batt dual alt
3 screen GRT HX
GRT EIS (hidden)
Garmin stack
PS 9000
TT AP
TT ADI
My plan so far includes:
Door open - 2 lights
Low Voltage - 2 lights - 1 per buss
I'm thinking it makes sense to add 1 low oil pressure light
That's 5 lights
Some of that can be displayed thru the GRTs but I'm thinking it makes sense to have the 5 tracked independent of the GRTs
The GRT can drive an indicator or 3 but I'm unable to figure out a use for it.
I would love to hear what others are doing or planning.
Thanks
Bill "building a panel" Watson
href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
|
|
href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
|
[b]
| | - The Matronics RV10-List Email Forum - | | | Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List |
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
bcondrey
Joined: 03 Apr 2006
Posts: 580
|
| Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 4:41 am Post subject: Indicator lights - what functions to include |
|
|
The EIS alerts can be eliminated by simply changing the thresholds in the EIS. The EFIS alerts are on screen but it will also drive an external light.
Bob
--------------------------
Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Fri Dec 12 04:15:05 2008
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Indicator lights - what functions to include
Interesting. Is it possible or desirable to have the EIS configured so that it doesn't issue any warnings?
If not, I assume everyone who is hiding the EIS needs this wire configured into there system.
Regarding the EFIS - Are EFIS warnings issued on the screen or do they require an external indicator light/audio signal?
Thanks
David Schaefer wrote: [quote]The EFIS warning is tripped by things like terrain alerts, obstacles etc. That alert can be re-set (or acknowledged) from the EFIS. However ANY warnings generated by the EIS must be cleared by the front buttons on the EIS or as I found out the hard way several years ago with a remote line out the back of the EIS to a button. The EIS goes back to GRT for this addition. I ran my wire into a db9 since it's just one wire sticking out the back of the EIS.
David W. Schaefer
RV-6A N142DS "Nerdgasm"
TMX-IO360 Dual-LightSpeed Plasma IIIs, Hartzell Blended Airfoil, GRT EFIS
www.n142ds.com
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 10:12 AM, MauleDriver <MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com (MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | I'm burying my EIS too. I haven't studied the alarm situation there closely but my intent was to drive everything thru the EFIS and hopefully configure the EIS to run silent and deep. I'll have to look for that wire.
What do you see tripping the EFIS warning? Is that a fully configurable feature in the GRT HS or is it a generic alarm used for a variety of conditions?
Thanks.
(I love this list-server)
David Schaefer wrote: | Quote: | I currently have Primary and Secondary BUS low voltage, EIS warning (oil pressure only at startup), EFIS warning, X-Feed engaged, Starter engaged and Fuel Pump On.
Remember when ordering your EIS to specify a remote line to silence the EIS warning ...! If it's buried like mine, it's not available to silence the alarm.
I'll send you a picture off-line. I have a wonderful new system that allows for dimming and push to test for a mixture of both positive and negative triggered lamps!
David W. Schaefer
RV-6A N142DS "Nerdgasm"
TMX-IO360 Dual-LightSpeed Plasma IIIs, Hartzell Blended Airfoil, GRT EFIS HS
www.n142ds.com
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 5:48 PM, MauleDriver <MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com (MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | --> RV10-List message posted by: MauleDriver <MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com (MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com)>
Looking for thoughts regarding indicator/annunciator lights on my panel. Some of the particulars include:
dual buss dual batt dual alt
3 screen GRT HX
GRT EIS (hidden)
Garmin stack
PS 9000
TT AP
TT ADI
My plan so far includes:
Door open - 2 lights
Low Voltage - 2 lights - 1 per buss
I'm thinking it makes sense to add 1 low oil pressure light
That's 5 lights
Some of that can be displayed thru the GRTs but I'm thinking it makes sense to have the 5 tracked independent of the GRTs
The GRT can drive an indicator or 3 but I'm unable to figure out a use for it.
I would love to hear what others are doing or planning.
Thanks
Bill "building a panel" Watson
href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
|
|
href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
|
[b]
| | - The Matronics RV10-List Email Forum - | | | Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List |
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
N777TY
Joined: 09 Apr 2006
Posts: 69
Location: Charlotte, NC
|
| Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 6:57 am Post subject: Re: Indicator lights - what functions to include |
|
|
Yes, this is possible. However, the recommended approach is to have only ONE warning set on EIS -- Low Oil Pressure. Nothing else (set limits to 0 so they don't generate warnings). All other warnings and limits should be programmed into the EFIS itself.
In this case, you would not need any remote ACK button for EIS -- low oil pressure is not a warning that you dismiss with a button anyways  You want this limit in EIS since it "boots up" instantly, whereas EFIS can take 20-30 seconds to boot up upon engine start.. I'd also recommend a warning light from EIS -- and if set up like this, you can even label it "low oil presure." From my experience, you do not need a "master warning" from EFIS... messages on the screen provide enough of "distraction" to catch your eye.
Just to clarify a possible misunderstanding that was mentioned in this thread -- engine limits programmed on the EFIS itself are NOT generated by the EIS, hence do not need to be acknowledged/dismissed on EIS.. so you do not need a remote ack button.
HTH
Radomir
RV-7A N777TY
| MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com wrote: | Interesting. Is it possible or desirable to have the EIS configured so that it doesn't issue any warnings?
If not, I assume everyone who is hiding the EIS needs this wire configured into there system.
Regarding the EFIS - Are EFIS warnings issued on the screen or do they require an external indicator light/audio signal?
Thanks
|
| | - The Matronics RV10-List Email Forum - | | | Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List |
|
_________________
RV-7A
N777TY |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
n142ds(at)gmail.com
Guest
|
| Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 8:10 am Post subject: Indicator lights - what functions to include |
|
|
Sure .. don't set any alarms in the EIS. However the low oil pressure alarm is very nice for alerting before the EFIS comes completely to life.
David W. Schaefer
RV-6A N142DS "Nerdgasm"
TMX-IO360 Dual-LightSpeed Plasma IIIs, Hartzell Blended Airfoil, GRT EFIS
www.n142ds.com
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 6:15 AM, MauleDriver <MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com (MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com)> wrote:
[quote] Interesting. Is it possible or desirable to have the EIS configured so that it doesn't issue any warnings?
If not, I assume everyone who is hiding the EIS needs this wire configured into there system.
Regarding the EFIS - Are EFIS warnings issued on the screen or do they require an external indicator light/audio signal?
Thanks
David Schaefer wrote: | Quote: | The EFIS warning is tripped by things like terrain alerts, obstacles etc. That alert can be re-set (or acknowledged) from the EFIS. However ANY warnings generated by the EIS must be cleared by the front buttons on the EIS or as I found out the hard way several years ago with a remote line out the back of the EIS to a button. The EIS goes back to GRT for this addition. I ran my wire into a db9 since it's just one wire sticking out the back of the EIS.
David W. Schaefer
RV-6A N142DS "Nerdgasm"
TMX-IO360 Dual-LightSpeed Plasma IIIs, Hartzell Blended Airfoil, GRT EFIS
www.n142ds.com
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 10:12 AM, MauleDriver <MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com (MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | I'm burying my EIS too. I haven't studied the alarm situation there closely but my intent was to drive everything thru the EFIS and hopefully configure the EIS to run silent and deep. I'll have to look for that wire.
What do you see tripping the EFIS warning? Is that a fully configurable feature in the GRT HS or is it a generic alarm used for a variety of conditions?
Thanks.
(I love this list-server)
David Schaefer wrote: | Quote: | I currently have Primary and Secondary BUS low voltage, EIS warning (oil pressure only at startup), EFIS warning, X-Feed engaged, Starter engaged and Fuel Pump On.
Remember when ordering your EIS to specify a remote line to silence the EIS warning ...! If it's buried like mine, it's not available to silence the alarm.
I'll send you a picture off-line. I have a wonderful new system that allows for dimming and push to test for a mixture of both positive and negative triggered lamps!
David W. Schaefer
RV-6A N142DS "Nerdgasm"
TMX-IO360 Dual-LightSpeed Plasma IIIs, Hartzell Blended Airfoil, GRT EFIS HS
www.n142ds.com
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 5:48 PM, MauleDriver <MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com (MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com)> wrote:
|
href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
|
|
[b]
| | - The Matronics RV10-List Email Forum - | | | Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List |
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
bcondrey
Joined: 03 Apr 2006
Posts: 580
|
| Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 8:21 am Post subject: Indicator lights - what functions to include |
|
|
Other option for oil pressure is to add a simple pressure switch (in addition to the EIS pressure sensor) on the manifold and have it drive the light which works rrespective of the status of the EIS.
Bob
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Schaefer
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 10:10 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Indicator lights - what functions to include
Sure .. don't set any alarms in the EIS. However the low oil pressure alarm is very nice for alerting before the EFIS comes completely to life.
David W. Schaefer
RV-6A N142DS "Nerdgasm"
TMX-IO360 Dual-LightSpeed Plasma IIIs, Hartzell Blended Airfoil, GRT EFIS
www.n142ds.com
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 6:15 AM, MauleDriver <MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com (MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com)> wrote:
Interesting. Is it possible or desirable to have the EIS configured so that it doesn't issue any warnings?
If not, I assume everyone who is hiding the EIS needs this wire configured into there system.
Regarding the EFIS - Are EFIS warnings issued on the screen or do they require an external indicator light/audio signal?
Thanks
David Schaefer wrote:
The EFIS warning is tripped by things like terrain alerts, obstacles etc. That alert can be re-set (or acknowledged) from the EFIS. However ANY warnings generated by the EIS must be cleared by the front buttons on the EIS or as I found out the hard way several years ago with a remote line out the back of the EIS to a button. The EIS goes back to GRT for this addition. I ran my wire into a db9 since it's just one wire sticking out the back of the EIS.
David W. Schaefer
RV-6A N142DS "Nerdgasm"
TMX-IO360 Dual-LightSpeed Plasma IIIs, Hartzell Blended Airfoil, GRT EFIS
www.n142ds.com
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 10:12 AM, MauleDriver <MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com (MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com)> wrote:
I'm burying my EIS too. I haven't studied the alarm situation there closely but my intent was to drive everything thru the EFIS and hopefully configure the EIS to run silent and deep. I'll have to look for that wire.
What do you see tripping the EFIS warning? Is that a fully configurable feature in the GRT HS or is it a generic alarm used for a variety of conditions?
Thanks.
(I love this list-server)
David Schaefer wrote:
I currently have Primary and Secondary BUS low voltage, EIS warning (oil pressure only at startup), EFIS warning, X-Feed engaged, Starter engaged and Fuel Pump On.
Remember when ordering your EIS to specify a remote line to silence the EIS warning ...! If it's buried like mine, it's not available to silence the alarm.
I'll send you a picture off-line. I have a wonderful new system that allows for dimming and push to test for a mixture of both positive and negative triggered lamps!
David W. Schaefer
RV-6A N142DS "Nerdgasm"
TMX-IO360 Dual-LightSpeed Plasma IIIs, Hartzell Blended Airfoil, GRT EFIS HS
www.n142ds.com
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 5:48 PM, MauleDriver <MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com (MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com)> wrote:
--> RV10-List message posted by: MauleDriver <MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com (MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com)>
Looking for thoughts regarding indicator/annunciator lights on my panel. Some of the particulars include:
dual buss dual batt dual alt
3 screen GRT HX
GRT EIS (hidden)
Garmin stack
PS 9000
TT AP
TT ADI
My plan so far includes:
Door open - 2 lights
Low Voltage - 2 lights - 1 per buss
I'm thinking it makes sense to add 1 low oil pressure light
That's 5 lights
Some of that can be displayed thru the GRTs but I'm thinking it makes sense to have the 5 tracked independent of the GRTs
The GRT can drive an indicator or 3 but I'm unable to figure out a use for it.
I would love to hear what others are doing or planning.
Thanks
Bill "building a panel" Watson
| Quote: | | href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com |
| Quote: | | href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution |
01
23
456789 | Quote: | | href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution |
0 | Quote: | | href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution |
1 | Quote: | | href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution |
2 | Quote: | | href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution |
3 | Quote: | | href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution |
4 | Quote: | | href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution |
5 | Quote: | | href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution |
6 | Quote: | | href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution |
7 | Quote: | | href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution |
8 | Quote: | | href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution |
9 | Quote: | | href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List |
0 | Quote: | | href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List |
1 | Quote: | | href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List |
2 | Quote: | | href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List |
3 | Quote: | | href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List |
4 | Quote: | | href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List |
5 | Quote: | | href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List |
6 | Quote: | | href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List |
7
[quote][b]
| | - The Matronics RV10-List Email Forum - | | | Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List |
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
avu1(at)md.metrocast.net
Guest
|
| Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 8:25 am Post subject: Indicator lights - what functions to include |
|
|
To summarize the various responses:
Engine information from the EIS can be repeated on the GRT EFIS.
Alert limits are set on either system independent of one another.
Either system can be programmed to have no alerts.
Alerts generated by one system are not displayed on the other.
Alerts tripped by one system can only be reset/acknowledged by that system.
Either system can have an external light which blinks when tripped based
on programmed limits, steady when acknowledged, goes away when problem is
no longer there.
Leveraging the capability of each system can eliminate the need for the
EIS remote button.
| Quote: |
Yes, this is possible. However, the recommended approach is to have only
ONE warning set on EIS -- Low Oil Pressure. Nothing else (set limits to 0
so they don't generate warnings). All other warnings and limits should be
programmed into the EFIS itself.
In this case, you would not need any remote ACK button for EIS -- low oil
pressure is not a warning that you dismiss with a button anyways You
want this limit in EIS since it "boots up" instantly, whereas EFIS can
take 20-30 seconds to boot up upon engine start.. I'd also recommend a
warning light from EIS -- and if set up like this, you can even label it
"low oil presure." From my experience, you do not need a "master warning"
from EFIS... messages on the screen provide enough of "distraction" to
catch your eye.
Just to clarify a possible misunderstanding that was mentioned in this
thread -- engine limits programmed on the EFIS itself are NOT generated by
the EIS, hence do not need to be acknowledged/dismissed on EIS.. so you do
not need a remote ack button.
HTH
Radomir
RV-7A N777TY
MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com wrote:
> Interesting. Is it possible or desirable to have the EIS configured so
> that it doesn't issue any warnings?
>
> If not, I assume everyone who is hiding the EIS needs this wire
> configured into there system.
>
> Regarding the EFIS - Are EFIS warnings issued on the screen or do they
> require an external indicator light/audio signal?
>
> Thanks
--------
RV-7A
N777TY
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 19054#219054
|
| | - The Matronics RV10-List Email Forum - | | | Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List |
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
marcausman
Joined: 08 Feb 2007
Posts: 70
|
| Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 8:55 am Post subject: Re: Indicator lights - what functions to include |
|
|
Yes, I concur. I have the alarms on the EFIS, and not the EIS which is buried. The VP-200 handles all the annunciations and electrical alarms.
| avu1(at)md.metrocast.net wrote: | To summarize the various responses:
Engine information from the EIS can be repeated on the GRT EFIS.
Alert limits are set on either system independent of one another.
Either system can be programmed to have no alerts.
Alerts generated by one system are not displayed on the other.
Alerts tripped by one system can only be reset/acknowledged by that system.
Either system can have an external light which blinks when tripped based
on programmed limits, steady when acknowledged, goes away when problem is
no longer there.
Leveraging the capability of each system can eliminate the need for the
EIS remote button.
|
| | - The Matronics RV10-List Email Forum - | | | Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List |
|
_________________
Marc Ausman
http://www.verticalpower.com "Move up to a modern electrical system"
RV-7 IO-390 Flying |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
n142ds(at)gmail.com
Guest
|
| Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 6:22 pm Post subject: Indicator lights - what functions to include |
|
|
I only have to ask one question... WHY? You have the alerting function on the EIS .. it's immediately available .. the EFIS takes a minute to come up. I want to know about low oil pressure immediately. I also don't understand why someone would up in another sensor .. you have the EIS. Anyone can do what they want ... however I've been flying mine for 4 years and it works wonderfully. Especially for those without dual busses .. who have to turn on their EFIS by switch. David W. Schaefer
RV-6A N142DS "Nerdgasm"
TMX-IO360 Dual-LightSpeed Plasma IIIs, Hartzell Blended Airfoil, GRT EFIS
www.n142ds.com
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 10:55 AM, marcausman <marc(at)verticalpower.com (marc(at)verticalpower.com)> wrote:
[quote] --> RV10-List message posted by: "marcausman" <marc(at)verticalpower.com (marc(at)verticalpower.com)>
Yes, I concur. I have the alarms on the EFIS, and not the EIS which is buried. The VP-200 handles all the annunciations and electrical alarms.
avu1(at)md.metrocast.net wrote:
> To summarize the various responses:
>
> Engine information from the EIS can be repeated on the GRT EFIS.
> Alert limits are set on either system independent of one another.
> Either system can be programmed to have no alerts.
> Alerts generated by one system are not displayed on the other.
> Alerts tripped by one system can only be reset/acknowledged by that system.
> Either system can have an external light which blinks when tripped based
> on programmed limits, steady when acknowledged, goes away when problem is
> no longer there.
> Leveraging the capability of each system can eliminate the need for the
> EIS remote button.
>
>
--------
Marc Ausman
http://www.verticalpower.com
RV-7 IO-390 Flying
Read this topic online here:
[url=http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 19214#219214]http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 19214#219214[/url]
[b]
| | - The Matronics RV10-List Email Forum - | | | Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List |
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
msausen
Joined: 25 Oct 2007
Posts: 559
Location: Appleton, WI USA
|
| Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 8:03 pm Post subject: Indicator lights - what functions to include |
|
|
In the case below there isn’t any additional sensors. The VP is the primary electrical system so it’s up before anything else and it simply takes data feeds from the EIS and EFIS to redisplay. In most other cases I believe the EFIS has a backup battery to keep the EFIS online during cranking so again, no additional sensors. I know when I was giving the GRT’s serious consideration I also planned on burying the EIS display. Not a lot of panel space with the amount of stuff some of us are cramming in along with larger displays so it’s easier to hide the box and let it display on the EFIS or a VP unit. Ultimately I went with the AFS stuff so it’s no longer a concern.
Michael
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Schaefer
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 8:21 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Re: Indicator lights - what functions to include
I only have to ask one question... WHY? You have the alerting function on the EIS .. it's immediately available .. the EFIS takes a minute to come up. I want to know about low oil pressure immediately. I also don't understand why someone would up in another sensor .. you have the EIS. Anyone can do what they want .. however I've been flying mine for 4 years and it works wonderfully
| | - The Matronics RV10-List Email Forum - | | | Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List |
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
marcausman
Joined: 08 Feb 2007
Posts: 70
|
| Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 7:40 am Post subject: Re: Indicator lights - what functions to include |
|
|
What Michael said.
In my case, the VP-200 is on during start and that is used as the primary engine instrument (fed by the EIS). And, I'd prefer to look at graphical engine gauges instead of the character display on the EIS.
| | - The Matronics RV10-List Email Forum - | | | Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List |
|
_________________
Marc Ausman
http://www.verticalpower.com "Move up to a modern electrical system"
RV-7 IO-390 Flying |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com
Guest
|
| Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 12:40 pm Post subject: Indicator lights - what functions to include |
|
|
The reason I don't want to use the EIS is because it will be hidden, as other builders have indicated.
I agree that a 'fail-safe' low oil pressure indication is valuable. I'm wondering if there is some way to hook up a low pressure light in parallel with the EIS (and the Hobbs meter)?
Bill Watson
David Schaefer wrote: [quote]I only have to ask one question... WHY? You have the alerting function on the EIS .. it's immediately available .. the EFIS takes a minute to come up. I want to know about low oil pressure immediately. I also don't understand why someone would up in another sensor .. you have the EIS. Anyone can do what they want ... however I've been flying mine for 4 years and it works wonderfully. Especially for those without dual busses .. who have to turn on their EFIS by switch. David W. Schaefer
RV-6A N142DS "Nerdgasm"
TMX-IO360 Dual-LightSpeed Plasma IIIs, Hartzell Blended Airfoil, GRT EFIS
www.n142ds.com
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 10:55 AM, marcausman <marc(at)verticalpower.com (marc(at)verticalpower.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | --> RV10-List message posted by: "marcausman" <marc(at)verticalpower.com (marc(at)verticalpower.com)>
Yes, I concur. I have the alarms on the EFIS, and not the EIS which is buried. The VP-200 handles all the annunciations and electrical alarms.
avu1(at)md.metrocast.net wrote:
> To summarize the various responses:
>
> Engine information from the EIS can be repeated on the GRT EFIS.
> Alert limits are set on either system independent of one another.
> Either system can be programmed to have no alerts.
> Alerts generated by one system are not displayed on the other.
> Alerts tripped by one system can only be reset/acknowledged by that system.
> Either system can have an external light which blinks when tripped based
> on programmed limits, steady when acknowledged, goes away when problem is
> no longer there.
> Leveraging the capability of each system can eliminate the need for the
> EIS remote button.
>
>
--------
Marc Ausman
http://www.verticalpower.com
RV-7 IO-390 Flying
Read this topic online here:
[url=http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 19214#219214]http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 19214#219214[/url]
href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
|
[b]
| | - The Matronics RV10-List Email Forum - | | | Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List |
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum
|
Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group
|
Get Email Distribution Too!
FAQ
Search
Memberlist
Usergroups
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
