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		agustafson(at)Chartermi.n Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 9:46 am    Post subject: Skis, who needs skis | 
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				A picture from a couple years ago on the  lake
   
  http://www.eaa439.org/photos/index.htm
   
  Aaron Gustafson  I did have skis  also
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		Float Flyr
 
  
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				 Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 10:44 am    Post subject: Skis, who needs skis | 
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				Silly que4stion but did any one actually drill that ice to check how thick it was??  How thick was it?/ It looks pretty black/thin to me.  
        
 From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Aaron Gustafson
  Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 2:15 PM
  To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
  Subject: Skis, who needs skis  
   
   
      
 A picture from a couple years ago on the lake  
     
    
     
 http://www.eaa439.org/photos/index.htm  
     
    
     
 Aaron Gustafson  I did have skis also  
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				 Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 2:54 pm    Post subject: Skis, who needs skis | 
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				Noel,  
 I can answer that question for Aaron, I was the guy flying the Kitfox, Aaron was in the Yellow and Blue Kolb and our friend Scott was in the White Kolb. We did not have to drill the ice, it was over a foot thick with trucks and fishing shacks already on it, that year we had hardly any snow just cold up until then. Landing was a new experience because the ice was as slick as it looks.   
    
 Lloyd Cudnohufsky  
 Model 5 912ul IFA  
 Northern Michigan  
        
 From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Noel Loveys
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 Silly que4stion but did any one actually drill that ice to check how thick it was??  How thick was it?/ It looks pretty black/thin to me.  
        
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 A picture from a couple years ago on the lake  
     
    
     
 http://www.eaa439.org/photos/index.htm  
     
    
     
 Aaron Gustafson  I did have skis also  
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		Lynn Matteson
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 5:37 pm    Post subject: Skis, who needs skis | 
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				I can relate to slick ice....the first year I moved back to Michigan,  
 we had a really fast freeze, and the ice was absolutely clear except  
 for a few bubbles and some cracks that let you determine its  
 thickness...about 4". I got my skates on and was tentatively skating  
 around, and it was the weirdest feeling I've ever had...the brain  
 reacted to the vision of ice so clear that the feeling was that you  
 were walking/skating on water. My brain said this isn't possible, and  
 it told me to get the hell out of there. It took a while to overcome  
 this feeling. You could see bottles, cans, leaves, an old tire, all  
 the stuff that is always there, but crystal clear...not as seen in  
 the summer through the murk. For over 40 years I've skated on  
 artificial ice, and that is always translucent. That's why this was  
 such a mind boggler.
 
 Who said old guys always need to tell stories? : )
 
 Lynn Matteson
 Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
 Jabiru 2200, #2062, 596+ hrs
 Sensenich 62x46
 flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition  
 system;
 also building a new pair of snow skis
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 On Dec 27, 2008, at 5:52 PM, Cudnohufsky's wrote:
 
  	  | Quote: | 	 		   Noel,
 
  I can answer that question for Aaron, I was the guy flying the  
  Kitfox, Aaron was in the Yellow and Blue Kolb and our friend Scott  
  was in the White Kolb. We did not have to drill the ice, it was  
  over a foot thick with trucks and fishing shacks already on it,  
  that year we had hardly any snow just cold up until then. Landing  
  was a new experience because the ice was as slick as it looks.
 
  Lloyd Cudnohufsky
 
  Model 5 912ul IFA
 
  Northern Michigan
 
  From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox- 
  list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Noel Loveys
  Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 12:42 PM
  To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
  Subject: RE: Skis, who needs skis
 
  Silly que4stion but did any one actually drill that ice to check  
  how thick it was??  How thick was it?/ It looks pretty black/thin  
  to me.
 
  From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox- 
  list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Aaron Gustafson
  Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 2:15 PM
  To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
  Subject: Skis, who needs skis
 
  A picture from a couple years ago on the lake
 
  http://www.eaa439.org/photos/index.htm
 
  Aaron Gustafson  I did have skis also
 
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				 Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 8:03 pm    Post subject: Skis, who needs skis | 
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				At 09:45 AM 12/27/2008, you wrote:
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  How cool would that be! Man, you could do great donuts.
 
  
  Guy Buchanan
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  100% and flying thanks mostly to Bob Ducar
 
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				 Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 8:46 pm    Post subject: Skis, who needs skis | 
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				I had to question it as I have seen a lot of ice (Salt water) but none of it
 is a clear as that stuff.  When we see ice that black it is usually only
 millimetres thick.
 
 Noel
 
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				 Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 2:28 pm    Post subject: Skis, who needs skis | 
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				Hi Noel.
 
 I agree.
 Ice that colour scares the begeebers out of me...
 
 Doug Remoundos
 Montreal
 
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