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slyck(at)frontiernet.net
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 Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:42 am Post subject: Crab vs sideslip crosswing landing |
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I can't disagree. -However cruising mile after mile in calm air,
zombie mode, consuming mass quantities of petrol
is little more than watching the same thing on a 50"LCD. (ouch, here
come the slings)
From what little experience I've had landing my MkIII on actual
pavement makes me more alert when touching down.
Give me grass any time. -dirt, even mud  Just not alfalfa or a
freshly plowed field. Tough on the old pitot tube.
Be REAL careful and carry extra speed when landing downwind of a row
of trees. The ASI needle (if you watch it)
will drop to zero in a blink.
Fun every time
BB
On 20, Jan 2009, at 2:21 PM, TheWanderingWench wrote:
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I agree with what you said,Bob, - with one exception. You wrote
that local ups and downs provide more real experience than cross
countries. If you are always flying local, then part of your
proficiency is due to familiarity. You KNOW where the rotors, etc.
tend to be at your airport and surrounding airports, since you've
flown into them so often. You still pay attention, but it's
attention tempered with a certain amount of comfort due to flying
in known territory.
When you're flying cross country, you're flying over unfamiliar
terrain and landing at unfamiliar airports. You're landing on a
variety of surfaces - paved, turf, gravel, dirt, and sometimes in
pastures or fields. The strips have different surroundings with
different obstacles. You're not familiar with the landing strip or
the surroundings and have to keep a very sharp lookout since you
don't know what to expect. I think that is a real learning experience.
Arty Trost
Maxair Drifter
Sandy, Oregon
www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com
"Life's a daring adventure or nothing" Helen Keller
"I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death."
--- On Tue, 1/20/09, robert bean <slyck(at)frontiernet.net> wrote:
> 1. fly regularly and land often. Long cross-country
> time may look impressive in the log book
> but local ups and downs provide more real experience.
> 2. fly in bumpy air. Flying in only perfect
> conditions will lose your sense of connection with the
> plane.
> 3. practice a lot of closed throttle landings in safe
> circumstances
> my opinion of course.
> BB
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dalewhelan
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Location: USA ARIZONA fountain hills
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| Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 9:39 pm Post subject: Re: Crab vs sideslip crosswing landing |
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So far I only have 68 hours with 28 of them cross country with landings at 18 different airports.
I do fly in the summer when it gets hot and bumpy, the thermals are fun to play with.
I either go places or practice flying better, more accurate landings, slow flight, and better coordination in turns.
Tomorrow it is Chandelles and Lazy Eights, I hear this will improve my feel for coordination in turns. I plan to be quite high while doing these.
I find landing on pavement busier than the gravel I normally land on. When I was flying west from Missouri, I spotted grass strips but did not land at them. Now that I fly out of the Phoenix area, I long for the day I land in grass. Closest I have come to grass is cactus.
My father was a CFI when I was a kid, I have been told that the three things I don't need is old school. They are sky above me, runway behind me, gas in the fuel truck. I guess that is why I am usually high on approach and why I fly higher than those I fly with. I was recently told there is another thing that is of no value to me, the last 5 seconds.
Thank you guys for the advice you have already given me. If you have any more ideas, please share them. I want to do this for a long time and I want to do it well, I take my granddaughter up with me and don't want to break her.
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pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com
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| Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 3:04 am Post subject: Crab vs sideslip crosswing landing |
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<< I was going to make it if the engine quit, which was quite common back
then with two stroke engines.>>
I will go with that. With the old engines it was always `when` it would
stop, never `if`. I have always flown base leg within gliding dictance of
the field and closed the throttle as I turned onto finals. Downwind, base
leg and finals are pretty much indistinguishable with me. A sort of squarish
oval shape with a bit of `turn left at the big elm tree` thrown in.
Pat
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cristalclear13
Joined: 19 Sep 2007
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Location: Southeast Georgia
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| Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 2:23 pm Post subject: Re: Crab vs sideslip crosswing landing |
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I also feel kinda stagnant in my training. I passed my check ride a got a sport pilot license, but I feel I need to keep learning. I have visited a local ultralight chapter but for the most part, they don't fly. most of the people I have flown with scare me, either in their lack of aircraft control, or their poor judgment. I would like to continue improving, any suggestions? |
It's not on-hands flying training, but on days that aren't good weather for flying I enjoy taking AOPA's online courses at http://www.aopa.org/asf/online_courses/. I also enjoy reading their "Real Pilot Stories". Lots to learn there.
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dalewhelan
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| Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:00 pm Post subject: Re: Crab vs sideslip crosswing landing |
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I have taken almost all of those courses, glad I did
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