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		Paul A. Franz, P.E.
 
  
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				 Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 4:34 pm    Post subject: posting photos - best way... | 
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				On Fri, January 30, 2009 2:53 pm, John Bonewitz wrote:
 
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  attachments? or do I need to link to a Flickr account or something?
 
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 The best way is to use the forum interface to post your photos then when it goes out
 to the mail list, they'll be referenced as URLs. Saves a lot on mail overhead.
 
 Pretty simple, go to the forums link:
 
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 Register if you haven't already done so, select the Kitfox Forum, then compose what
 you want and you'll have the opportunity to attach files and descriptions.
 
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 When you register, completely fill out the form and select a username that you want to
 be known by, rather than your e-mail address or a part of it.
 
 Once registered, you can view and post on any Matronics forum and you have the option
 of getting postings e-mailed or not. You'll find this is probably a better way than
 posting to the list. But you can have it both ways, with or without mail.
 
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 Registration/Aircraft - N14UW/Merlin GT
 Engine/Prop - Rotax 914/NSI CAP
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		jbonewitz
 
  
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				 Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 8:47 pm    Post subject: posting photos - best way... | 
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				Thanks, I'll give it a try.
 
 John
 
 On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 6:18 PM, Paul Franz - Merlin GT <paul(at)eucleides.com (paul(at)eucleides.com)> wrote:
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  On Fri, January 30, 2009 2:53 pm, John Bonewitz wrote:
  
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  > When I re-do it, I'll take pictures for you who are interested. How are you
  > guys handling pictures on the list? Are you just sending them as
  > attachments? or do I need to link to a Flickr account or something?
  
  The best way is to use the forum interface to post your photos then when it goes out
  to the mail list, they'll be referenced as URLs. Saves a lot on mail overhead.
  
  Pretty simple, go to the forums link:
  
  <http://forums.matronics.com/>
  
  Register if you haven't already done so, select the Kitfox Forum, then compose what
  you want and you'll have the opportunity to attach files and descriptions.
  
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  When you register, completely fill out the form and select a username that you want to
  be known by, rather than your e-mail address or a part of it.
  
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  of getting postings e-mailed or not. You'll find this is probably a better way than
  posting to the list. But you can have it both ways, with or without mail.
  
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		akflyer
 
  
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				 Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 9:55 am    Post subject: Re: posting photos - best way... | 
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				Just checking to see if it comes through right LOL
 
 Note the new cowling art.....
 
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Leonard Perry aka SNAKE
 
Soldotna AK
 
Avid "C" / Mk IV 
 
582 (147 hrs and counting on the rebuild)
 
IVO IFA
 
Full Lotus 1450
 
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		Paul A. Franz, P.E.
 
  
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				 Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:20 am    Post subject: Re: posting photos - best way... | 
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				 	  | akflyer wrote: | 	 		  Just checking to see if it comes through right LOL
 
 Note the new cowling art..... | 	  
 
 Excellent! I like it!
 
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		Lynn Matteson
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:30 am    Post subject: posting photos - best way... | 
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				Hmmmm....do I detect a bit of Photoshop help in that nose art,  
 Snake?  I think I see some "disturbed pixels" around that name. Looks  
 good though, and if it is P'shopped, you did a good job of making it  
 look curved. Real or not-so-real, it looks good! : )
 
 Lynn Matteson
 Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
 Jabiru 2200, #2062, 605 hrs
 Sensenich 62x46
 Electroair direct-fire ignition system
 New skis done and flying
 do not archive
 
 On Feb 6, 2009, at 12:55 PM, akflyer wrote:
 
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  Just checking to see if it comes through right LOL
 
  Note the new cowling art.....
 
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		akflyer
 
  
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				 Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:38 am    Post subject: Re: posting photos - best way... | 
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 dang you lynn.. yes it was a 30 second photo shop job.  I tried to restrain myself and not post it, but alas, the flesh is weak.
 
 One of these days my warped humor will earn me a good beating, but till then, party on...
 
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Soldotna AK
 
Avid "C" / Mk IV 
 
582 (147 hrs and counting on the rebuild)
 
IVO IFA
 
Full Lotus 1450
 
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		Lynn Matteson
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 12:36 pm    Post subject: posting photos - best way... | 
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				If that was 30 seconds, there's a future for you, young man! : )
 
 Lynn Matteson
 Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
 Jabiru 2200, #2062, 605 hrs
 Sensenich 62x46
 Electroair direct-fire ignition system
 New skis done and flying
 do not archive
 
 On Feb 6, 2009, at 1:38 PM, akflyer wrote:
 
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  [Mr. Green]
 
  dang you lynn.. yes it was a 30 second photo shop job.  I tried to  
  restrain myself and not post it, but alas, the flesh is weak.
 
  One of these days my warped humor will earn me a good beating, but  
  till then, party on...
 
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  DO NOT ARCHIVE
  Leonard Perry aka SNAKE
  Soldotna AK
  Avid "C" / Mk IV
  582 IVO IFA
  Full Lotus 1260
  #1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009
 
  hander outer of humorless darwin awards
 
 
  Read this topic online here:
 
  http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 28911#228911
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 1:02 pm    Post subject: Re: posting photos - best way... | 
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				 	  | akflyer wrote: | 	 		  
 
 Note the new cowling art..... | 	  
 
 Hahaha,
 
 I like the looks of that     , I never imagined that name would stick !
 
 Mike
 
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				 Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 7:43 am    Post subject: posting photos - best way... | 
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				Len,
 
 I just looked at your photo again and it occurred to me that the colors you 
 chose has a lot to do with background contrast in the event you triggered a 
 search and rescue operation.  My old airplane was largely white with dark 
 blue scallops on the wing.  I would guess pretty much invisible in snow.  My 
 new one is planned as yellow with white trim.  Not good for snow conditions 
 either, I guess.
 
 Lowell
 
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		Lynn Matteson
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 9:57 am    Post subject: posting photos - best way... | 
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				Hey Snake-
 I just had another look at your plane/photo, and the ski axles caught  
 my eye....are the extensions that project toward the centerline of  
 the plane for "assist wheels" for hangar handling, and trailer- 
 loading? If so, good plan.
 
 Lynn Matteson
 Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
 Jabiru 2200, #2062, 605 hrs
 Sensenich 62x46
 Electroair direct-fire ignition system
 New skis done and flying
 do not archive
 
 On Feb 6, 2009, at 1:38 PM, akflyer wrote:
 
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  [Mr. Green]
 
  dang you lynn.. yes it was a 30 second photo shop job.  I tried to  
  restrain myself and not post it, but alas, the flesh is weak.
 
  One of these days my warped humor will earn me a good beating, but  
  till then, party on...
 
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  DO NOT ARCHIVE
  Leonard Perry aka SNAKE
  Soldotna AK
  Avid "C" / Mk IV
  582 IVO IFA
  Full Lotus 1260
  #1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009
 
  hander outer of humorless darwin awards
 
 
  Read this topic online here:
 
  http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 28911#228911
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 10:53 am    Post subject: Re: posting photos - best way... | 
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				 	  | lcfitt(at)sbcglobal.net wrote: | 	 		  Len,
 
 I just looked at your photo again and it occurred to me that the colors you 
 chose has a lot to do with background contrast in the event you triggered a 
 search and rescue operation.  My old airplane was largely white with dark 
 blue scallops on the wing.  I would guess pretty much invisible in snow.  My 
 new one is planned as yellow with white trim.  Not good for snow conditions 
 either, I guess.
 
 Lowell | 	  
 
 well sort of... the red for the control surfaces has more to due with the solar reflection than visibility.  I studied the planes at the airport, and in the mornings, the frost was off the red wings and tails before any other color, even black.  The visibility was a second consideration.
 
 akflyerbobs plane is all white with the red stripes on the wing and tail.  When I am following him, one breif glance away and I am puckered up trying to find him again.  His plane totaly dissapears against the snow and is hard to spot.
 
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Soldotna AK
 
Avid "C" / Mk IV 
 
582 (147 hrs and counting on the rebuild)
 
IVO IFA
 
Full Lotus 1450
 
#1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 10:57 am    Post subject: Re: posting photos - best way... | 
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				 	  | Lynn Matteson wrote: | 	 		  Hey Snake-
 I just had another look at your plane/photo, and the ski axles caught  
 my eye....are the extensions that project toward the centerline of  
 the plane for "assist wheels" for hangar handling, and trailer- 
 loading? If so, good plan.
 
 Lynn Matteson
 Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
 Jabiru 2200, #2062, 605 hrs
 Sensenich 62x46
 Electroair direct-fire ignition system
 New skis done and flying
 do not archive
 
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 Well..... to be honest, I had to make longer axles as I had to put 3" more space in the wheels to fit the big tundra tires.  When I changed over to ski's I just shoved the axles in and re-drilled the holes through the gear legs.  I was going to cut them off flush, but they did make a great place for the jack when slipping the skis on so I left them.  I will have to make another set of axles for the wheels if I ever put them back on.  I am hoping to just go between floats and skis, but you never know, I make go wheels again one of these days.
 
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Leonard Perry aka SNAKE
 
Soldotna AK
 
Avid "C" / Mk IV 
 
582 (147 hrs and counting on the rebuild)
 
IVO IFA
 
Full Lotus 1450
 
#1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009
 
 
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		Lynn Matteson
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 11:36 am    Post subject: posting photos - best way... | 
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				This is WAY off flying as a topic, but I once had a go-kart to which  
 I fitted a longer rear axle so I could widen the tread width, and  
 have both rear wheels become drive wheels. I used a standard 36"  
 length of "ground and polished cold-rolled steel". Not knowing at the  
 time just exactly *what* width I wanted, I left the full 36" of axle,  
 and just milled a 1/4" keyway on each end for the drive hubs, and  
 installed it. A few days later, I was out on a frozen lake roaring  
 around, and testing my stupidity, and I saw a dock pipe sticking up  
 out of the ice...the dock had been taken inside for the winter. I  
 thought it'd be fun to see how close I could make the front tire  
 *just* miss the pipe. I think you can imagine the rest of the  
 story....actually, this story DOES have something to do with  
 flying....I damn near got airborne hitting that pipe with the widened  
 rear end, and definitely did a ground loop!   And, I had a pretty  
 wobbly race car to boot...it bent the axle pretty good.
 
 Lynn Matteson
 Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
 Jabiru 2200, #2062, 605 hrs
 Sensenich 62x46
 Electroair direct-fire ignition system
 New skis done and flying
 do not archive
 
 On Feb 7, 2009, at 1:57 PM, akflyer wrote:
 
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  Lynn Matteson wrote:
 > Hey Snake-
 > I just had another look at your plane/photo, and the ski axles caught
 > my eye....are the extensions that project toward the centerline of
 > the plane for "assist wheels" for hangar handling, and trailer-
 > loading? If so, good plan.
 >
 > Lynn Matteson
 > Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
 > Jabiru 2200, #2062, 605 hrs
 > Sensenich 62x46
 > Electroair direct-fire ignition system
 > New skis done and flying
 > do not archive
  Well..... to be honest, I had to make longer axles as I had to put  
  3" more space in the wheels to fit the big tundra tires.  When I  
  changed over to ski's I just shoved the axles in and re-drilled the  
  holes through the gear legs.  I was going to cut them off flush,  
  but they did make a great place for the jack when slipping the skis  
  on so I left them.  I will have to make another set of axles for  
  the wheels if I ever put them back on.  I am hoping to just go  
  between floats and skis, but you never know, I make go wheels again  
  one of these days.
 
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  DO NOT ARCHIVE
  Leonard Perry aka SNAKE
  Soldotna AK
  Avid "C" / Mk IV
  582 IVO IFA
  Full Lotus 1260
  #1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009
 
  hander outer of humorless darwin awards
 
 
  Read this topic online here:
 
  http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 29086#229086
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 2:29 pm    Post subject: Re: posting photos - best way... | 
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				AKFlyer:  Do you have a cabin heater in your Avid?  
 
 If so:  Is it liquid or exhaust heat driven and is it effective?
 I see many Foxes and Avids on skis and was wondering if you just bundle up in the snowmobiling gear and shiver or if you can keep it kind of warm in the cabin.
 
 Thanks.
 
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		akflyer
 
  
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				 Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 3:05 pm    Post subject: Re: posting photos - best way... | 
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				I have a heat muff (no pot scrubbers installed LMAO).  I used Low-e insulation in the cabin area and can fly comfortably in -10 temps.  I still wear my snow machine gear, but that is more of a safety issue.  If you go down in cold weather, and are knocked out, if yer not bundled up you could freeze before getting your butt outta the wreckage.  I don't have to wear gloves and my nose does not freeze while flying.
 
 I plan on making a curtain to go from the floor behind the seat to the turtle deck to block off all heat from going into the rear of the fuse.  No reason to heat up the tail.
 
 I have a scoop on the back of the radiator with a 1 1/2" scat hose feeding the heat muff (sorta preheats the air) then a 2" into the cabin through a heat box so I can shut off in the summer.  I can get pics when I get back home in a couple weeks if you would like to see the install.
 
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Leonard Perry aka SNAKE
 
Soldotna AK
 
Avid "C" / Mk IV 
 
582 (147 hrs and counting on the rebuild)
 
IVO IFA
 
Full Lotus 1450
 
#1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 3:17 pm    Post subject: posting photos - best way... | 
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				Len C I would appreciate seeing your install.
  do not archive
 
 Pat Reilly
 Mod 3 582 Rebuild
 Rockford C IL
 
 
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  Date: Sat C 7 Feb 2009 15:05:14 -0800
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  I have a heat muff (no pot scrubbers installed LMAO). I used Low-e insulation in the cabin area and can fly comfortably in -10 temps. I still wear my snow machine gear C but that is more of a safety issue. If you go down in cold weather C and are knocked out C if yer not bundled up you could freeze before getting your butt outta the wreckage. I don't have to wear gloves and my nose does not freeze while flying.
  
  I plan on making a curtain to go from the floor behind the seat to the turtle deck to block off all heat from going into the rear of the fuse. No reason to heat up the tail.
  
  I have a scoop on the back of the radiator with a 1 1/2" scat hose feeding the heat muff (sorta preheats the air) then a 2" into the cabin through a heat box so I can shut off in the summer. I can get pics when I get back home in a couple weeks if you would like to see the install.
  
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  Soldotna AK
  Avid "C" / Mk IV 
  582 IVO IFA
  Full Lotus 1260
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				 Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 3:24 pm    Post subject: posting photos - best way... | 
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				Lynn C Now why in the Hell would you tell us that story unless some witness to the stupidity brought it up? And C if he did C if it was me C I'd still deny it. And C I thought you were one of the smartest guys on this website!
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  	  | Quote: | 	 		   From: lynnmatt(at)jps.net
  Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: posting photos - best way...
  Date: Sat C 7 Feb 2009 14:35:31 -0500
  To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
  
  --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
  
  This is WAY off flying as a topic C but I once had a go-kart to which 
  I fitted a longer rear axle so I could widen the tread width C and 
  have both rear wheels become drive wheels. I used a standard 36" 
  length of "ground and polished cold-rolled steel". Not knowing at the 
  time just exactly *what* width I wanted C I left the full 36" of axle C 
  and just milled a 1/4" keyway on each end for the drive hubs C and 
  installed it. A few days later C I was out on a frozen lake roaring 
  around C and testing my stupidity C and I saw a dock pipe sticking up 
  out of the ice...the dock had been taken inside for the winter. I 
  thought it'd be fun to see how close I could make the front tire 
  *just* miss the pipe. I think you can imagine the rest of the 
  story....actually C this story DOES have something to do with 
  flying....I damn near got airborne hitting that pipe with the widened 
  rear end C and definitely did a ground loop! And C I had a pretty 
  wobbly race car to boot...it bent the axle pretty good.
  
  Lynn Matteson
  Kitfox IV Speedster C taildragger
  Jabiru 2200 C #2062 C 605 hrs
  Sensenich 62x46
  Electroair direct-fire ignition system
  New skis done and flying
  do not archive
  
  
  
  On Feb 7 C 2009 C at 1:57 PM C akflyer wrote:
  
  > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "akflyer" <akflyer_2000(at)yahoo.com>
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  > Lynn Matteson wrote:
  >> Hey Snake-
  >> I just had another look at your plane/photo C and the ski axles caught
  >> my eye....are the extensions that project toward the centerline of
  >> the plane for "assist wheels" for hangar handling C and trailer-
  >> loading? If so C good plan.
  >>
  >> Lynn Matteson
  >> Kitfox IV Speedster C taildragger
  >> Jabiru 2200 C #2062 C 605 hrs
  >> Sensenich 62x46
  >> Electroair direct-fire ignition system
  >> New skis done and flying
  >> do not archive
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  > Well..... to be honest C I had to make longer axles as I had to put 
  > 3" more space in the wheels to fit the big tundra tires. When I 
  > changed over to ski's I just shoved the axles in and re-drilled the 
  > holes through the gear legs. I was going to cut them off flush C 
  > but they did make a great place for the jack when slipping the skis 
  > on so I left them. I will have to make another set of axles for 
  > the wheels if I ever put them back on. I am hoping to just go 
  > between floats and skis C but you never know C I make go wheels again 
  > one of these days.
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  > Soldotna AK
  > Avid "C" / Mk IV
  > 582 IVO IFA
  > Full Lotus 1260
  > #1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009
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				I think he was pointing out that with the extra axle sticking out inside the gear legs, I was setting myself up for possibly hitting something.  A dock pole is a VERY good example.  I hit one with the A-arm on my snogo last week, and it was in a spot that I would have taxied my plane right over!
 
 Course, that could just be pure snake oil too and Lynn is trying to knock me out of the top salesman slot.  Back off Lynn the position is mine and I aim to keep it  
 
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				 	  | lcfitt(at)sbcglobal.net wrote: | 	 		  Len,
 
 I just looked at your photo again and it occurred to me that the colors you 
 chose has a lot to do with background contrast in the event you triggered a 
 search and rescue operation.  My old airplane was largely white with dark 
 blue scallops on the wing.  I would guess pretty much invisible in snow.  My 
 new one is planned as yellow with white trim.  Not good for snow conditions 
 either, I guess.
 
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 Lowell, the more I think about it, yellow would be good... some one is gonna be curious what the heck made that much yellow snow and they are gonna land and take a look.
 
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				 Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 4:44 pm    Post subject: posting photos - best way... | 
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				Keep thinking of me as one of the smartest, and we'll all know who  
 leads the list of the opposite persuasion. : )
 
 I don't know, I just saw Lenny's extra axle length stickin' out there  
 and had a flashback....it must be the codeine in the cough syrup  
 that's makin' me weird. : )
 
 Lynn Matteson
 Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
 Jabiru 2200, #2062, 605 hrs
 Sensenich 62x46
 Electroair direct-fire ignition system
 New skis done and flying
 do not archive
 
 On Feb 7, 2009, at 6:23 PM, patrick reilly wrote:
 
  	  | Quote: | 	 		   Lynn, Now why in the Hell would you tell us that story unless some  
  witness to the stupidity brought it up? And, if he did, if it was  
  me, I'd still deny it. And, I thought you were one of the smartest  
  guys on this website!
  do not archive
 
  Pat Reilly
  Mod 3 582 Rebuild
  Rockford, IL
 
 
  > From: lynnmatt(at)jps.net
  > Subject: Re: Re: posting photos - best way...
  > Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 14:35:31 -0500
  > To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
  >
  > 
  >
  > This is WAY off flying as a topic, but I once had a go-kart to which
  > I fitted a longer rear axle so I could widen the tread width, and
  > have both rear wheels become drive wheels. I used a standard 36"
  > length of "ground and polished cold-rolled steel". Not knowing at  
  the
  > time just exactly *what* width I wanted, I left the full 36" of  
  axle,
  > and just milled a 1/4" keyway on each end for the drive hubs, and
  > installed it. A few days later, I was out on a frozen lake roaring
  > around, and testing my stupidity, and I saw a dock pipe sticking up
  > out of the ice...the dock had been taken inside for the winter. I
  > thought it'd be fun to see how close I could make the front tire
  > *just* miss the pipe. I think you can imagine the rest of the
  > story....actually, this story DOES have something to do with
  > flying....I damn near got airborne hitting that pipe with the  
  widened
  > rear end, and definitely did a ground loop! And, I had a pretty
  > wobbly race car to boot...it bent the axle pretty good.
  >
  > Lynn Matteson
  > Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
  > Jabiru 2200, #2062, 605 hrs
  > Sensenich 62x46
  > Electroair direct-fire ignition system
  > New skis done and flying
  > do not archive
  >
  >
  >
  > On Feb 7, 2009, at 1:57 PM, akflyer wrote:
  >
  > > 
  <akflyer_2000(at)yahoo.com>
  > >
  > >
  > > Lynn Matteson wrote:
  > >> Hey Snake-
  > >> I just had another look at your plane/photo, and the ski axles  
  caught
  > >> my eye....are the extensions that project toward the  
  centerline of
  > >> the plane for "assist wheels" for hangar handling, and trailer-
  > >> loading? If so, good plan.
  > >>
  > >> Lynn Matteson
  > >> Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
  > >> Jabiru 2200, #2062, 605 hrs
  > >> Sensenich 62x46
  > >> Electroair direct-fire ignition system
  > >> New skis done and flying
  > >> do not archive
  > >>
  > >>
  > >
  > >
  > > Well..... to be honest, I had to make longer axles as I had to put
  > > 3" more space in the wheels to fit the big tundra tires. When I
  > > changed over to ski's I just shoved the axles in and re-drilled  
  the
  > > holes through the gear legs. I was going to cut them off flush,
  > > but they did make a great place for the jack when slipping the  
  skis
  > > on so I left them. I will have to make another set of axles for
  > > the wheels if I ever put them back on. I am hoping to just go
  > > between floats and skis, but you never know, I make go wheels  
  again
  > > one of these days.
  > >
  > > --------
  > > DO NOT ARCHIVE
  > > Leonard Perry aka SNAKE
  > > Soldotna AK
  > > Avid "C" / Mk IV
  > > 582 IVO IFA
  > > Full Lotus 1260
  > > #1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009
  > >
  > > hander outer of humorless darwin awards
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > > Read this topic online here:
  > >
  > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 29086#229086
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