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		indigoonlatigo(at)msn.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 7:27 am    Post subject: computer simulation of paint scheme | 
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				Does anyone know of a service or program that is user friendly that allows one to play with their paint scheme and see it from different angles.
   
  I remember reading something in our magazines about such a service but it was a paint scheme designer and their consultaion was about half the cost of actual painting the plane.
   
  Thanks C
   
  JOhn G. 
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				 Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 7:47 am    Post subject: computer simulation of paint scheme | 
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				I hate paying someone else to do what I can do for free.  The simplest 
 thing I've found is to import a 3-view into your favorite paint 
 program.  You can even cut and paste from a flying example picture.  I 
 don't need to rotate in 3-D to picture the results.  You'll fine-tune 
 the picture when you lay it out on the airplane to shoot paint.  It was 
 easier years ago when mostly straight lines prevailed, but now the 
 'swoosh' style is prevalent and will make drawing the lines a little 
 more difficult.  Once you have the lines drawn, however using the 'fill' 
 tool makes it really easy to change colors.
 Linn
 
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  allows one to play with their paint scheme and see it from different 
  angles.
   
  I remember reading something in our magazines about such a service but 
  it was a paint scheme designer and their consultaion was about half 
  the cost of actual painting the plane.
   
  Thanks,
   
  JOhn G.
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		indigoonlatigo(at)msn.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:11 am    Post subject: computer simulation of paint scheme | 
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				Thanks Linn C
   
  So what is your favorite paint program?
   
  JOhn
 
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  From: pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net
  To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
  Subject: Re: computer simulation of paint scheme
  
  --> RV10-List message posted by: linn Walters <pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net>
  
  I hate paying someone else to do what I can do for free. The simplest 
  thing I've found is to import a 3-view into your favorite paint 
  program. You can even cut and paste from a flying example picture. I 
  don't need to rotate in 3-D to picture the results. You'll fine-tune 
  the picture when you lay it out on the airplane to shoot paint. It was 
  easier years ago when mostly straight lines prevailed C but now the 
  'swoosh' style is prevalent and will make drawing the lines a little 
  more difficult. Once you have the lines drawn C however using the 'fill' 
  tool makes it really easy to change colors.
  Linn
  
  John Gonzalez wrote:
  > Does anyone know of a service or program that is user friendly that 
  > allows one to play with their paint scheme and see it from different 
  > angles.
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  > I remember reading something in our magazines about such a service but 
  > it was a paint scheme designer and their consultaion was about half 
  > the cost of actual painting the plane.
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  > Thanks C
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  > JOhn G.
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				 Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:18 am    Post subject: computer simulation of paint scheme | 
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				I used x-plane.........but it is not real easy.......but it is cool to see
 it flying.....
 
 Rene' Felker
 RV-10 N423CF Flying
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		pascal(at)rv10builder.net Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:29 am    Post subject: computer simulation of paint scheme | 
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				this is the company you mention but they also have a tool  one can use. http://www.aircraftpaintschemes.com/linedraw_details_guest.asp?AircraftID=385[url=http://www.aircraftcolor.com/design.asp][/url]
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   From: John Gonzalez (indigoonlatigo(at)msn.com) 
  Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 7:25 AM
  To: RV 10 group (rv10-list(at)matronics.com) 
  Subject: computer simulation of paint  scheme
  
 
 Does anyone know of a service or program that is user friendly  that allows one to play with their paint scheme and see it from different  angles.
  
 I remember reading something in our magazines about such a  service but it was a paint scheme designer and their consultaion was about half  the cost of actual painting the plane.
  
 Thanks,
  
 JOhn G.  
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				 Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:39 am    Post subject: computer simulation of paint scheme | 
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				GIMP is a great full featured open source image editing tool
 
 http://www.gimp.org/
 
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  I used x-plane.........but it is not real easy.......but it is cool to see
  it flying.....
 
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				 Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:44 am    Post subject: computer simulation of paint scheme | 
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				John,  
 I labored a lot over the paint scheme. In fact the plane is in paint now and I still think I should have gone a completely different direction. It can make one nuts. Early in the process I drew a blank  outline of an RV-10 and posted it online including downloadable versions in .ai, .eps and .jpg forms. I started with a lot of hand drawings then with the illustrator file you can make a clipping mask and use the various illustrator tools to add color, designs, N numbers. Basically anything you can think of to prevent you from actually building the plane.   
    
 Good luck,  
 Robin  
    
 Downloadable files:  
 http://www.painttheweb.com/rv10/index.aspx  
    
 end result:  
 http://www.painttheweb.com/rv-10/paint.htm  
    
    
        
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  Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 7:25 AM
  To: RV 10 group
  Subject: computer simulation of paint scheme  
   
   
    
 Does anyone know of a service or program that is user friendly that allows one to play with their paint scheme and see it from different angles.
   
  I remember reading something in our magazines about such a service but it was a paint scheme designer and their consultaion was about half the cost of actual painting the plane.
   
  Thanks,
   
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		AV8ORJWC
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:27 am    Post subject: computer simulation of paint scheme | 
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				My database has almost every painted RV-10 in the world in it.  http://www.schemedesigners.com/ is by far the largest producer of aircraft schemes used by paint shops applying the creation of two dimensional graphics to a three dimentional object.  Craig Barnett does presentation at OSH each year and has a pallet of airline, certified production aircraft and kitbuilds to his credit.
   
  Wayne Edgerton, the late Mark Ritter, Scott Schmidt and of course Mark Chamberlain are great resources for striking original paint schemes which quickly get ripped off by copy artists - as direct and identical clones.  Sometimes it goes right down to the exact paint colors and break lines in the layout, which may have been copyrighted by the designer/client.
   
  However, computer simulation is different than those of the static two or three view graphics in a flat document.  The computer simulation makes for an exciting question indeed.  My favorite scheme done by Craig is N900EM on an Embraer  corporate jet out of Vegas.  It utilized the natural flow lines of the three dimensional object, complementary colors and striking graphics which denote speed, beauty and elegance in one final product - whether it is sitting "Static on the Ramp" at night or "On the Perch at V1" for liftoff.
   
  Neil Colliver has none a unique job has have the Russians, the Poles  and now Dan Benua with #40001 (IMHO).  I will continue reading with interest the answers on simulation program.  That bar continues to raise higher with more beautiful products arriving weekly.
   
 
   John Cox
 
  
   From: pascal
 Sent: Mon 2/9/2009 8:27 AM
 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
 Subject: Re: RV10-List: computer simulation of paint scheme
   this is the company you mention but they also have a tool one can use. http://www.aircraftpaintschemes.com/linedraw_details_guest.asp?AircraftID=385[url=http://www.aircraftcolor.com/design.asp][/url]
  P
   
 
   From: John Gonzalez (indigoonlatigo(at)msn.com) 
  Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 7:25 AM
  To: RV 10 group (rv10-list(at)matronics.com) 
  Subject: computer simulation of paint scheme
  
 
 Does anyone know of a service or program that is user friendly that allows one to play with their paint scheme and see it from different angles.
  
 I remember reading something in our magazines about such a service but it was a paint scheme designer and their consultaion was about half the cost of actual painting the plane.
  
 Thanks,
  
 JOhn G. 
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				 Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:46 am    Post subject: computer simulation of paint scheme | 
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				I found a guy who designed my Lancair (the RV is next) (no charge) and
 painted the plane to perfection (he's been painting aircraft - large &
 small, for 20 years).  He's in Colorado, but travels around (and he's
 reasonable).
 
 Tom 970-420-1798
 
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				 Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:04 pm    Post subject: computer simulation of paint scheme | 
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				Tom,
 	Great looking plane. Why are you building a -10 if you had the
 Lancair? Don't get me wrong the -10 is a tremendous plane but so is the
 FG Lancair.
 
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				 Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 1:22 pm    Post subject: computer simulation of paint scheme | 
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				John Gonzalez wrote:
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  So what is your favorite paint program?
 Photoimpact ..... came bundled with a camera long ago.  Almost any 
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 digital camera has a paint program bundled with it.
 Linn
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  JOhn
 
  > Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 10:45:52 -0500
  > From: pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net
  > To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
  > Subject: Re: computer simulation of paint scheme
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  <pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net>
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  > I hate paying someone else to do what I can do for free. The simplest
  > thing I've found is to import a 3-view into your favorite paint
  > program. You can even cut and paste from a flying example picture. I
  > don't need to rotate in 3-D to picture the results. You'll fine-tune
  > the picture when you lay it out on the airplane to shoot paint. It was
  > easier years ago when mostly straight lines prevailed, but now the
  > 'swoosh' style is prevalent and will make drawing the lines a little
  > more difficult. Once you have the lines drawn, however using the 'fill'
  > tool makes it really easy to change colors.
  > Linn
  >
  > John Gonzalez wrote:
  > > Does anyone know of a service or program that is user friendly that
  > > allows one to play with their paint scheme and see it from different
  > > angles.
  > >
  > > I remember reading something in our magazines about such a service 
  but
  > > it was a paint scheme designer and their consultaion was about half
  > > the cost of actual painting the plane.
  > >
  > > Thanks,
  > >
  > > JOhn G.
  > > *
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				 Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 3:58 pm    Post subject: Re: computer simulation of paint scheme | 
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				Photoimpact is my favorite image editor. I use it a lot.
 It's very capable and much more intuitive than adobe photoshop.
 
 I've seen some commercial airplane paintscheme software somewhere online. You'll find it on google. It was pretty inexpensive.
 
 Lenny
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				 Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:12 am    Post subject: computer simulation of paint scheme | 
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				I used Power Draw for the Mac which allows curves to be manipulated and colour added easily.  I then used a clear sheet on my copier for  a black and white image and lined it up on the actual airplane using an overhead projector.  Worked slick as snuff. Saved a lot of guess work on the alignment of the lines over the top of the cowl.
  
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				 Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 8:41 am    Post subject: Re: computer simulation of paint scheme | 
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				I don't know how this software is but it looks interesting.
 http://www.airplanecolor.com/
 I haven't installed it yet because I am just starting my project and if I don't purchase the full program, I want the 15 days when I am considering paint.
 
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				 Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 9:48 am    Post subject: Re: computer simulation of paint scheme | 
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				Yep, this is the one I was talking about. They now have an RV-10 model in the software. For $15 it's a no brainer... You can move the airplane around in 3D and see how it looks from different angles.
 
 http://www.airplanecolor.com/aircraft/rv-10/index.htm
 
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