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		Dick Maddux
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:11 am    Post subject: new bush gear | 
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				Here are some pictures of my new gear.I will give you updates as I go along.
                                                Dick Maddux
                                                Pensacola,Fl
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				 Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 11:52 am    Post subject: new bush gear | 
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				The gear looks great.  If it performs as tough as it looks, you have made a great choice.  
 Jim Crowder  
          
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 Here are some pictures of my new gear.I will give you updates as I go along.  
     
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				 Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 12:34 pm    Post subject: new bush gear | 
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				Here are some pictures of my aircraft with Kitfox Bush landing gear
   
   
  Francisco Drovetta
  Sao Paulo, Brazil
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  > Here are some pictures of my new gear.I will give you updates as I go along.
  >                                               Dick Maddux
  >                                               Pensacola,Fl
 
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		Float Flyr
 
  
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				 Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 2:02 pm    Post subject: new bush gear | 
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				Ok! now how did it weigh in any big changes in bal?  
    
 Noel  
      
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 Here are some pictures of my aircraft with Kitfox Bush landing gear  
     
    
     
    
     
 Francisco Drovetta  
     
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		Lynn Matteson
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 3:33 pm    Post subject: new bush gear | 
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				Oh, yeah, this was the one with the gear supposedly in the wrong  
 place....and looks like it still is. I wonder just how big that  
 battery is in the tail?
 And how would going to this gear without changing locations....if  
 indeed it IS in the wrong location...change things?
 
 Lynn Matteson
 Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
 Jabiru 2200, #2062, 605 hrs
 Sensenich 62x46
 Electroair direct-fire ignition system
 New skis done and flying
 do not archive
 
 On Feb 20, 2009, at 4:59 PM, Noel Loveys wrote:
 
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				 Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 7:10 pm    Post subject: new bush gear | 
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				Lynn, Noel
   
  Here "new" W&B situation!
  I had to add 11 lbs on tail
   
          DATUM = Leading Edge of Wing Root  EMPTY WEIGHT CG  Weighing Point Wht. (Lbs.) Arm, (in.) Moment  Left Main, (- tare) 421,63 4,12 1737,13  Right Main (- tare) 417,22 4,12 1718,94  Tail Wheel (+ tare) 44,15 151,80 6701,99  Nose Wheel (-tare) 0,00 0,00 0,00  TOTALS 883,00  ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ 10158,06  MOM. /  WEIGHT  = EMPTY WEIGHT CG,  (in.) = 11,50
   
  If you want, I could send W&B xls spreadsheet complete.
   
  FD
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      Data: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 18:32:00 -0500
      Assunto: Re: Kitfox-List: new bush gear
  > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson 
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  > Oh, yeah, this was the one with the gear supposedly in the wrong 
  > place....and looks like it still is. I wonder just how big that 
  > battery is in the tail?
  > And how would going to this gear without changing locations....if 
  > indeed it IS in the wrong location...change things?
  > 
  > Lynn Matteson
  > Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
  > Jabiru 2200, #2062, 605 hrs
  > Sensenich 62x46
  > Electroair direct-fire ignition system
  > New skis done and flying
  > do not archive
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  > On Feb 20, 2009, at 4:59 PM, Noel Loveys wrote:
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  > > Ok! now how did it weigh in any big changes in bal?
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		Dick Maddux
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 3:18 am    Post subject: new bush gear | 
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				Lynn,
   I assure you my gear is not mounted in the wrong place. The gear leg is pretty much identical in build and shape to the original Kitfox leg I took off. The wheel is in the same position it's just a foot further out toward the wing tip so I have to stretch to put my foot on it to get in the aircraft. I am a short guy. The gear weight is just 4 lbs lighter and the spread 2 ft wider. I now have a 6 ft spread vs the original 4 ft (actually 7 ft if you measure to the outside of the "kingfox" tires)
  I am not too worried about weight and balance as the 4 lbs difference will equal the 4 lbs of stuff I put in the panel!
   I am waiting for the polyflow fittings to arrive from Spruce so I can extend the brake lines.
   Yesterday I installed the "visible reservoir" thick plastic brake fluid reservoir that I obtained a while back. Now I will be able to see how much fluid is in the reservoir. This will be useful when back bleeding for fill purposes. No more running over the top!
   I am having a time painting the gear leg fairings! Call me the "orange peel" king. I am using Poly Tone and have tried both methods (primer dry and spraying a mist coat onto drying primer) nothing seems to work. I might have to break down and order a quart of enamel from Spruce (so expensive for a small amount) I will give it another shot today.
                                                               Dick Maddux
                                                               Fox 4-1200
                                                               Rotax 912UL
                                                               Pensacola,Fl
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		Lynn Matteson
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 4:05 am    Post subject: new bush gear | 
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				Dick, I have no doubt that yours is in the right place...re-read my  
 post. It was in response to Noel, who was responding to Francisco,  
 whose plane was the subject of much discussion a few weeks back, when  
 he sent pictures of his plane which looked like he had the gear in  
 the wrong place.
 In looking at your pictures just now, it looks like they no longer  
 put the front float brackets on the fuselage...yours has 3 on each  
 side, as does Francisco's, while mine has 4.
 
 I too have one of those visible reservoirs...I bought it at Oshkosh 2  
 1/2 years ago....some things just take a little longer to get  
 installed....mine isn't yet! : )
 
 Lynn Matteson
 Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
 Jabiru 2200, #2062, 605 hrs
 Sensenich 62x46
 Electroair direct-fire ignition system
 New skis done and flying
 
 
 On Feb 21, 2009, at 6:16 AM, Catz631(at)aol.com wrote:
 
  	  | Quote: | 	 		   Lynn,
   I assure you my gear is not mounted in the wrong place. The gear  
  leg is pretty much identical in build and shape to the original  
  Kitfox leg I took off. The wheel is in the same position it's just  
  a foot further out toward the wing tip so I have to stretch to put  
  my foot on it to get in the aircraft. I am a short guy. The gear  
  weight is just 4 lbs lighter and the spread 2 ft wider. I now have  
  a 6 ft spread vs the original 4 ft (actually 7 ft if you measure to  
  the outside of the "kingfox" tires)
  I am not too worried about weight and balance as the 4 lbs  
  difference will equal the 4 lbs of stuff I put in the panel!
   I am waiting for the polyflow fittings to arrive from Spruce so I  
  can extend the brake lines.
   Yesterday I installed the "visible reservoir" thick plastic brake  
  fluid reservoir that I obtained a while back. Now I will be able to  
  see how much fluid is in the reservoir. This will be useful when  
  back bleeding for fill purposes. No more running over the top!
   I am having a time painting the gear leg fairings! Call me the  
  "orange peel" king. I am using Poly Tone and have tried both  
  methods (primer dry and spraying a mist coat onto drying primer)  
  nothing seems to work. I might have to break down and order a quart  
  of enamel from Spruce (so expensive for a small amount) I will give  
  it another shot today.
                                                               Dick  
  Maddux
                                                               Fox  
  4-1200
                                                               Rotax  
  912UL
                                                                
  Pensacola,Fl
 
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				 Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 5:40 am    Post subject: Re: new bush gear | 
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				How does the Highwing LLC bush gear compare in price to the kitfox?  
 
 I sent a message to Kitfox about their bush gear, but have yet to hear anything from them.  Fransico, can you give any info?  Weight, what comes in the kit, etc.
 
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				 Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 6:06 am    Post subject: Re: new bush gear | 
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				I would be curious about the price as well.  I did not see any prices for it on their website.  Looks like a great kit.
 
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				 Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 6:24 am    Post subject: new bush gear | 
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				Dick,  
 Have you considered having a quart custom mixed at your local NAPA or other auto store that sells automotive paints? I had it done for my first Kitfox to paint all the fiberglass parts, had 3 colors custom tinted, turned out great and the cost was very reasonable.  
 Lloyd Cudnohufsky  
 Model 5 912 IVO IFA  
 Northern Mi.  
        
 From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Catz631(at)aol.com
  Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 5:17 AM
  To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
  Subject: Re: new bush gear  
   
   
      
 Lynn,  
     
  I assure you my gear is not mounted in the wrong place. The gear leg is pretty much identical in build and shape to the original Kitfox leg I took off. The wheel is in the same position it's just a foot further out toward the wing tip so I have to stretch to put my foot on it to get in the aircraft. I am a short guy. The gear weight is just 4 lbs lighter and the spread 2 ft wider. I now have a 6 ft spread vs the original 4 ft (actually 7 ft if you measure to the outside of the "kingfox" tires)  
     
 I am not too worried about weight and balance as the 4 lbs difference will equal the 4 lbs of stuff I put in the panel!  
     
  I am waiting for the polyflow fittings to arrive from Spruce so I can extend the brake lines.  
     
  Yesterday I installed the "visible reservoir" thick plastic brake fluid reservoir that I obtained a while back. Now I will be able to see how much fluid is in the reservoir. This will be useful when back bleeding for fill purposes. No more running over the top!  
     
  I am having a time painting the gear leg fairings! Call me the "orange peel" king. I am using Poly Tone and have tried both methods (primer dry and spraying a mist coat onto drying primer) nothing seems to work. I might have to break down and order a quart of enamel from Spruce (so expensive for a small amount) I will give it another shot today.  
     
                                                              Dick Maddux  
     
                                                              Fox 4-1200  
     
                                                              Rotax 912UL  
     
                                                              Pensacola,Fl  
   
        
   
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				 Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 7:16 am    Post subject: new bush gear | 
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				I think there is a good weight saving on this gear.  I agree it still looks
 too far forward but hard to tell as the last pic is of the old gear.  Moving
 the battery back could make a big difference.  Depending on just how heavy
 the battery is.
 
 Noel
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		Lynn Matteson
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 8:08 am    Post subject: new bush gear | 
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				I just had another look at your pictures, Dick, and I think I do see  
 the 4th float bracket on your fuselage...is that correct?
 
 Lynn Matteson
 Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
 Jabiru 2200, #2062, 605 hrs
 Sensenich 62x46
 Electroair direct-fire ignition system
 New skis done and flying
 do not archive
 
 On Feb 21, 2009, at 7:04 AM, Lynn Matteson wrote:
 
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  Dick, I have no doubt that yours is in the right place...re-read my  
  post. It was in response to Noel, who was responding to Francisco,  
  whose plane was the subject of much discussion a few weeks back,  
  when he sent pictures of his plane which looked like he had the  
  gear in the wrong place.
  In looking at your pictures just now, it looks like they no longer  
  put the front float brackets on the fuselage...yours has 3 on each  
  side, as does Francisco's, while mine has 4.
 
  I too have one of those visible reservoirs...I bought it at Oshkosh  
  2 1/2 years ago....some things just take a little longer to get  
  installed....mine isn't yet! : )
 
  Lynn Matteson
  Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
  Jabiru 2200, #2062, 605 hrs
  Sensenich 62x46
  Electroair direct-fire ignition system
  New skis done and flying
 
 
  On Feb 21, 2009, at 6:16 AM, Catz631(at)aol.com wrote:
 
 > Lynn,
 >  I assure you my gear is not mounted in the wrong place. The gear  
 > leg is pretty much identical in build and shape to the original  
 > Kitfox leg I took off. The wheel is in the same position it's just  
 > a foot further out toward the wing tip so I have to stretch to put  
 > my foot on it to get in the aircraft. I am a short guy. The gear  
 > weight is just 4 lbs lighter and the spread 2 ft wider. I now have  
 > a 6 ft spread vs the original 4 ft (actually 7 ft if you measure  
 > to the outside of the "kingfox" tires)
 > I am not too worried about weight and balance as the 4 lbs  
 > difference will equal the 4 lbs of stuff I put in the panel!
 >  I am waiting for the polyflow fittings to arrive from Spruce so I  
 > can extend the brake lines.
 >  Yesterday I installed the "visible reservoir" thick plastic brake  
 > fluid reservoir that I obtained a while back. Now I will be able  
 > to see how much fluid is in the reservoir. This will be useful  
 > when back bleeding for fill purposes. No more running over the top!
 >  I am having a time painting the gear leg fairings! Call me the  
 > "orange peel" king. I am using Poly Tone and have tried both  
 > methods (primer dry and spraying a mist coat onto drying primer)  
 > nothing seems to work. I might have to break down and order a  
 > quart of enamel from Spruce (so expensive for a small amount) I  
 > will give it another shot today.
 >                                                              Dick  
 > Maddux
 >                                                              Fox  
 > 4-1200
 >                                                              Rotax  
 > 912UL
 >                                                               
 > Pensacola,Fl
 >
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				 Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 8:08 am    Post subject: new bush gear | 
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				I hope everyone is keeping up with this thread, as it involves two  
 different airplanes and two different situations....it's too bad that  
 they got lumped into one subject title. Dick, with the Model IV, who  
 just changed his gear, and Francisco, who just did a W&B calculation  
 after (?) adding 11 lbs of battery in the tail, and now that I look  
 again, I see the change in gear style...I thought the bush gear was  
 there all along. We need two separate titles for these two planes.
 
 I know for sure that I'm confused!
 
 Lynn Matteson
 Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
 Jabiru 2200, #2062, 605 hrs
 Sensenich 62x46
 Electroair direct-fire ignition system
 New skis off last week...5 minutes, and probably back on this week... 
 10 minutes, as it's snowing right now.
 
 
 On Feb 21, 2009, at 10:14 AM, Noel Loveys wrote:
 
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  I think there is a good weight saving on this gear.  I agree it  
  still looks
  too far forward but hard to tell as the last pic is of the old  
  gear.  Moving
  the battery back could make a big difference.  Depending on just  
  how heavy
  the battery is.
 
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				I ran the numbers and they look right to me. Now the CG envelope for  
 the Model IV (mine) is about 10" to about 16" (I don't have the  
 sheets here right now), so if this is what your airplanes' CG  
 envelope is, you seem to be in the "front-heavy" end of the envelope,  
 which is better than being in the "tail-heavy" end of things.
   Did you add the 11 lbs, then do the W&B? And did you level the  
 plane to the bottom door, or whatever level is called for?
 
 Lynn Matteson
 Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
 Jabiru 2200, #2062, 605 hrs
 Sensenich 62x46
 Electroair direct-fire ignition system
 New skis done and flying
 
 
 On Feb 20, 2009, at 10:07 PM, Francisco dcubj3 wrote:
 
  	  | Quote: | 	 		   Lynn, Noel
 
  Here "new" W&B situation!
  I had to add 11 lbs on tail
 
  DATUM = Leading Edge of Wing Root
  EMPTY WEIGHT CG
  Weighing PointWht. (Lbs.)Arm, (in.)Moment
  Left Main, (- tare)421,634,121737,13
  Right Main (- tare)417,224,121718,94
  Tail Wheel (+ tare)44,15151,806701,99
  Nose Wheel (-tare)0,000,000,00
  TOTALS883,00 ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^10158,06
  MOM. /  WEIGHT  = EMPTY WEIGHT CG,  (in.) =11,50
 
  If you want, I could send W&B xls spreadsheet complete.
 
  FD
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  Para:kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
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  Data:Fri, 20 Feb 2009 18:32:00 -0500
  Assunto:Re: new bush gear
  > 
  >
  > Oh, yeah, this was the one with the gear supposedly in the wrong
  > place....and looks like it still is. I wonder just how big that
  > battery is in the tail?
  > And how would going to this gear without changing locations....if
  > indeed it IS in the wrong location...change things?
  >
  > Lynn Matteson
  > Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
  > Jabiru 2200, #2062, 605 hrs
  > Sensenich 62x46
  > Electroair direct-fire ignition system
  > New skis done and flying
  > do not archive
  >
  >
  >
  > On Feb 20, 2009, at 4:59 PM, Noel Loveys wrote:
  >
  > > Ok! now how did it weigh in any big changes in bal?
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > > Noel
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				Stewart Systems will mix paint ( EkoPoly )for you  and it is good for metal, fabric, composite,whatever. It is waterborne and have  very little odor. Is not hazmat and all you need is a charcoal  mask.    http://www.stewartsystems.aero/    Larry  Huntley 4-1200 Soob
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				Ok Francisco:  
    
 What is your weight and the arm of your seat.  Also how much fuel can you carry and the arm of your tanks.  
    
 It looks like it’s getting better.  883 is a heavy plane. Compared to my 511 lb. mod II.  
    
 Noel  
      
 From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Francisco dcubj3
  Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 11:38 PM
  To: kitfox-list
  Subject: Re: new bush gear  
   
      
 Lynn, Noel  
     
    
     
 Here "new" W&B situation!  
     
 I had to add 11 lbs on tail  
     
    
             
 DATUM = Leading   Edge of Wing Root             
 EMPTY WEIGHT CG             
 Weighing Point         
 Wht. (Lbs.)         
 Arm, (in.)         
 Moment             
 Left Main, (- tare)         
 421,63         
 4,12         
 1737,13             
 Right Main (- tare)         
 417,22         
 4,12         
 1718,94             
 Tail Wheel (+ tare)         
 44,15         
 151,80         
 6701,99             
 Nose Wheel (-tare)         
 0,00         
 0,00         
 0,00             
 TOTALS         
 883,00         
  ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^         
 10158,06             
 MOM. /  WEIGHT  = EMPTY WEIGHT   CG,  (in.) =         
 11,50        
     
    
     
 If you want, I could send W&B xls spreadsheet complete.  
     
    
     
 FD  
     
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 Re:   new bush gear        
     
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  	  | Quote: | 	 		   Oh, yeah, this was the one with the gear supposedly in the wrong   
     
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  	  | Quote: | 	 		   place....and looks like it still is. I wonder just how big that   
     
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  	  | Quote: | 	 		   battery is in the tail?  
     
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  	  | Quote: | 	 		   And how would going to this gear without changing locations....if   
     
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  	  | Quote: | 	 		   indeed it IS in the wrong location...change things?  
     
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  	  | Quote: | 	 		   Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger  
     
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  	  | Quote: | 	 		   Jabiru 2200, #2062, 605 hrs  
     
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  	  | Quote: | 	 		   Electroair direct-fire ignition system  
     
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  	  | Quote: | 	 		   New skis done and flying  
     
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				Why be curious C pick up a damn phone and call Lowell!
  do not archive
 
 Pat Reilly
 Mod 3 582 Rebuild
 Rockford C IL
 
  
 [quote] Subject: Re: new bush gear
  From: lawrenceaw(at)corning.com
  Date: Sat C 21 Feb 2009 06:06:19 -0800
  To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
  
  --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "815TL" <lawrenceaw(at)corning.com>
  
  I would be curious about the price as well. I did not see any prices for it on their website. Looks like a great kit.
  
  
  
  
  Read this topic online here:
  
  http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=231339#231339
  
  
  
  
  
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				Wow Pat, why don't you get a little mad about it.
 
 The website doesn't have a phone number or address that is easily viewed.  Best I could originally do was to send an e-mail by commenting on a video.  As it turns out, it will show a phone number if you act like you are ordering one of the other items.  
 
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				Lynn And Dick C Where do you get the visable reservoir? I thought it was odd that you can't check brake fluid level on the stock system.
 
 Pat Reilly
 Mod 3 582 Rebuild
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 [quote] From: lynnmatt(at)jps.net
  Subject: Re: new bush gear
  Date: Sat C 21 Feb 2009 07:04:46 -0500
  To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
  
  --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
  
  Dick C I have no doubt that yours is in the right place...re-read my 
  post. It was in response to Noel C who was responding to Francisco C 
  whose plane was the subject of much discussion a few weeks back C when 
  he sent pictures of his plane which looked like he had the gear in 
  the wrong place.
  In looking at your pictures just now C it looks like they no longer 
  put the front float brackets on the fuselage...yours has 3 on each 
  side C as does Francisco's C while mine has 4.
  
  I too have one of those visible reservoirs...I bought it at Oshkosh 2 
  1/2 years ago....some things just take a little longer to get 
  installed....mine isn't yet! : )
  
  Lynn Matteson
  Kitfox IV Speedster C taildragger
  Jabiru 2200 C #2062 C 605 hrs
  Sensenich 62x46
  Electroair direct-fire ignition system
  New skis done and flying
  
  
  
  
  On Feb 21 C 2009 C at 6:16 AM C Catz631(at)aol.com wrote:
  
  > Lynn C
  > I assure you my gear is not mounted in the wrong place. The gear 
  > leg is pretty much identical in build and shape to the original 
  > Kitfox leg I took off. The wheel is in the same position it's just 
  > a foot further out toward the wing tip so I have to stretch to put 
  > my foot on it to get in the aircraft. I am a short guy. The gear 
  > weight is just 4 lbs lighter and the spread 2 ft wider. I now have 
  > a 6 ft spread vs the original 4 ft (actually 7 ft if you measure to 
  > the outside of the "kingfox" tires)
  > I am not too worried about weight and balance as the 4 lbs 
  > difference will equal the 4 lbs of stuff I put in the panel!
  > I am waiting for the polyflow fittings to arrive from Spruce so I 
  > can extend the brake lines.
  > Yesterday I installed the "visible reservoir" thick plastic brake 
  > fluid reservoir that I obtained a while back. Now I will be able to 
  > see how much fluid is in the reservoir. This will be useful when 
  > back bleeding for fill purposes. No more running over the top!
  > I am having a time painting the gear leg fairings! Call me the 
  > "orange peel" king. I am using Poly Tone and have tried both 
  > methods (primer dry and spraying a mist coat onto drying primer) 
  > nothing seems to work. I might have to break down and order a quart 
  > of enamel from Spruce (so expensive for a small amount) I will give 
  > it another shot today.
  > Dick 
  > Maddux
  > Fox 
  > 4-1200
  > Rotax 
  > 912UL
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