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				 Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:42 pm    Post subject: Ski Size | 
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				Lynn Matteson, Looking at snowboards to convert to  skis. What length and sq ' or " footprint do I need? 
   
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				 Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 5:21 pm    Post subject: Ski Size | 
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				Hi Pat-
 Mine are about 600 sq inches each. I measured a Cub that turned out  
 to be 768 sq in for the pair, and another pair for a  
 Cub...Federals...that measured 1008 sq in for the pair. So mine are a  
 bit oversize, but work very well in 12-14" of snow. Narrow skis seem  
 to work better in hard snow, and wider are better for lighter snow,  
 it seems.
 
 Lynn Matteson
 Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
 Jabiru 2200, #2062, 605 hrs
 Sensenich 62x46
 Electroair direct-fire ignition system
 Status: flying
 
 
 On Mar 2, 2009, at 5:41 PM, Pat Reilly wrote:
 
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  length and sq ' or " footprint do I need?
 
  Pat Reilly
  Mod 3 582 Rebuild
  Rockford,IL
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				Hey Lynn and Pat this link is from a 701 builder with some home built skis 
 on Yahoo, and here are a couple of messages... this is what he had to say:
 
 "hi all took some time but the new skis are installed and tested
 perfectly this past weekend. performed very well on the snow which b/c
 of the recent thaw surface was very dense and hard. i can pull the
 plane with one finger on prop on top of this stuff. because of the
 cant in the main gear the outer edge of the ski is lower then i would
 like but still performed very well on the grass.all skis are 15" wide
 mains are 48" long and nw is 36" top speed was down about 5mph and is
 noticable less responsive to full throttle up. A mushy 4ooo rpm to
 5200 in flight, the engine responds like normal but the asi is a
 little slower to catch up. climbout was still impressive as ever.
 total weight of all hardware is 60 lbs. so not so good for passenger
 carrying but at least spent 2hours sipping around doing t & g's with
 the bunch of hanger buddies only able to watch from the snowbanks.
 will post some pics soon but will look like carbon copies of the ones
 listed at zenith."
 
 "just uploaded some photos. mains are 14 x 48 x 1/8 alum sheet with a
 3.5" incline. 2- 1 x 2" rails on 12" centers stitch welded with a 15 "
 wide sheet of 1/8 uhmw popriveted to bottoms. an bolts for mounting
 hardware and clips. rest of the cable, bungii and hardware is local
 building material. the nw pivot is a shouldered bushing machined to
 size witha 5/16 x 2 an bolt and locknut. the "s" brace is a just in
 case support. I can remove the ski without touching the nw axle. tail
 wheels are hockey pucks board and oilite bushings pressed into."
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/701builders/photos/album/995817052/pic/list
 
 Let me know if you can access this link, there are some pics there of the 
 skis...
 R.D.(Ron) Leclerc
 CH701 Plans(Scrap)  Builder #7-6699
 Porsche Power  Geared  Redrive
 Winnipeg,  MB Canada
 infow(at)mts.net
 3/2/2009 7:56:49 PM
 
 
   
  
  
   Hi Pat-
   Mine are about 600 sq inches each. I measured a Cub that turned
   out to be 768 sq in for the pair, and another pair for a
   Cub...Federals...that measured 1008 sq in for the pair. So mine
   are a bit oversize, but work very well in 12-14" of snow. Narrow
   skis seem to work better in hard snow, and wider are better for
   lighter snow, it seems.
  
   Lynn Matteson
   Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
   Jabiru 2200, #2062, 605 hrs
   Sensenich 62x46
   Electroair direct-fire ignition system
   Status: flying
  
  
   On Mar 2, 2009, at 5:41 PM, Pat Reilly wrote:
  
    Lynn Matteson, Looking at snowboards to convert to skis. What
    length and sq ' or " footprint do I need?
   
    Pat Reilly
    Mod 3 582 Rebuild
    Rockford,IL
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				Ron,
 
 How 'bout posting your pictures to the matronics/kitfox list
 
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				 Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 7:24 pm    Post subject: Ski Size | 
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				Let me know if this works...
   
  Ron
   
   
   
   
  
   
  
   
  
    Ron, I couldn't open the photos.
    do not archive
   
    Pat Reilly
    Mod 3 582 Rebuild
    Rockford, IL
   
   
     From: infow(at)mts.net
     To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
     Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 20:38:26 -0600
     Subject: Re: Ski Size
    
     --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "R.D.(Ron) Leclerc"
    
    
     Hey Lynn and Pat this link is from a 701 builder with some
     home built skis on Yahoo, and here are a couple of
     messages... this is what he had to say:
    
     "hi all took some time but the new skis are installed and
     tested perfectly this past weekend. performed very well on
     the snow which b/c of the recent thaw surface was very dense
     and hard. i can pull the plane with one finger on prop on top
     of this stuff. because of the cant in the main gear the outer
     edge of the ski is lower then i would like but still
     performed very well on the grass.all skis are 15" wide mains
     are 48" long and nw is 36" top speed was down about 5mph and
     is noticable less responsive to full throttle up. A mushy
     4ooo rpm to 5200 in flight, the engine responds like normal
     but the asi is a little slower to catch up. climbout was
     still impressive as ever. total weight of all hardware is 60
     lbs. so not so good for passenger carrying but at least spent
     2hours sipping around doing t & g's with the bunch of hanger
     buddies only able to watch from the snowbanks. will post some
     pics soon but will look like carbon copies of the ones listed
     at zenith."
    
     "just uploaded some photos. mains are 14 x 48 x 1/8 alum
     sheet with a 3.5" incline. 2- 1 x 2" rails on 12" centers
     stitch welded with a 15 " wide sheet of 1/8 uhmw popriveted
     to bottoms. an bolts for mounting hardware and clips. rest of
     the cable, bungii and hardware is local building material.
     the nw pivot is a shouldered bushing machined to size witha
     5/16 x 2 an bolt and locknut. the "s" brace is a just in case
     support. I can remove the ski without touching the nw axle.
     tail wheels are hockey pucks board and oilite bushings
     pressed into."
     http://groups.yahoo.com/group/701builders/photos/album/995817052/pic/l
     ist
    
    
     Let me know if you can access this link, there are some pics
     there of the skis... R.D.(Ron) Leclerc CH701 Plans(Scrap)
     Builder #7-6699 Porsche Power Geared Redrive Winnipeg, MB
     Canada infow(at)mts.net 3/2/2009 7:56:49 PM
    
    
     --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson
    
    
     Hi Pat-
     Mine are about 600 sq inches each. I measured a Cub that
     turned out to be 768 sq in for the pair, and another pair for
     a Cub...Federals...that measured 1008 sq in for the pair. So
     mine are a bit oversize, but work very well in 12-14" of
     snow. Narrow skis seem to work better in hard snow, and wider
     are better for lighter snow, it seems.
    
     Lynn Matteson
     Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
     Jabiru 2200, #2062, 605 hrs
     Sensenich 62x46
     Electroair direct-fire ignition system
     Status: flying
    
    
     On Mar 2, 2009, at 5:41 PM, Pat Reilly wrote:
    
     Lynn Matteson, Looking at snowboards to convert to skis. What
     length and sq ' or " footprint do I need?
    
     Pat Reilly
     Mod 3 582 Rebuild
     Rockford,IL
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				 Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 5:47 am    Post subject: Ski Size | 
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				The photos and text came through loud and clear, Ron, and thanks.
 
 His skis are similar to my old ones, in that they let the tire  
 penetrate (in my opinion) too far, and he has the "cheese slicer"  
 effect going for (against) him. I can't imagine this arrangement  
 weighing 60 lbs, either, but it DOES include a nosewheel ski, which I  
 don't have the equivalent of for my tailwheel....haven't found the  
 need for it yet.
 
 No need for skis around here...Lower Michigan....as the ground is  
 clear of snow, but it's 3 degrees F. above zero, clear as a bell and  
 wind-less, and I'm gonna go fly some lakes!
 
 Lynn Matteson
 Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
 Jabiru 2200, #2062, 605 hrs
 Sensenich 62x46
 Electroair direct-fire ignition system
 Status: flying
 
 
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  Ron
 
 
  <kau03y1ven8r4w7ebnlt>
 
  <76a4ovan2d8qbizff2h3>
 
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    Ron, I couldn't open the photos.
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				 Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 9:58 am    Post subject: Re: Ski Size | 
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				[quote="patreilly43(at)hotmail.co"]Lynn Matteson, Looking at snowboards to convert to  skis. What length and sq ' or " footprint do I need? 
   
  Pat Reilly 
  Mod 3 582 Rebuild
  Rockford,IL
    
 
 ohh caa caa... here we go again lol...  What are the average snow depths?  mine have 780 sq. in. and I would not want any less for the snow I fly off of most of the time.  I had them in knee deep powder and they performed great.  Only sunk in about 4 inches or so.  Now to make a tail ski and I will be golden.
 
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Soldotna AK
 
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582 (147 hrs and counting on the rebuild)
 
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				 Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 1:10 pm    Post subject: Ski Size | 
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				Lynn:
 We had 11C ~ 51F temps here today.  Ceiling was minimal with several rain
 showers.  We lost over a foot of snow today but more to go yet.
 
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				 Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 2:02 pm    Post subject: Ski Size | 
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				I don't think those are carpet.....they look like paver blocks to me,  
 Pat. Look closer and you'll see that where the diamond pattern is,  
 there is no ski attached to the hanging brackets. And these aren't  
 Ron's skis....he was just posting the link.
 
 Lynn Matteson
 Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
 Jabiru 2200, #2062, 605 hrs
 Sensenich 62x46
 Electroair direct-fire ignition system
 Status: flying
 do not archive
 
 On Mar 3, 2009, at 10:01 AM, patrick reilly wrote:
 
  	  | Quote: | 	 		   Ron, Yes, photos are great. It looks like you put carpeet on the  
  tops of the skis. There is a diamond pattern on thetop of the ski.  
  What is that?
  do not archive
 
  Pat Reilly
  Mod 3 582 Rebuild
  Rockford, IL
 
 
  From: infow(at)mts.net
  To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
  Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 21:23:37 -0600
  Subject: RE: Ski Size
 
  Let me know if this works...
 
  Ron
 
 
  <kau03y1ven8r4w7ebnlt>
 
  <76a4ovan2d8qbizff2h3>
 
  <38fieofllxwituveings>
    Ron, I couldn't open the photos.
    do not archive
   
    Pat Reilly
    Mod 3 582 Rebuild
    Rockford, IL
   
   
     From: infow(at)mts.net
     To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
     Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 20:38:26 -0600
     Subject: Re: Ski Size
    
     
    
    
     Hey Lynn and Pat this link is from a 701 builder with some
     home built skis on Yahoo, and here are a couple of
     messages... this is what he had to say:
    
     "hi all took some time but the new skis are installed and
     tested perfectly this past weekend. performed very well on
     the snow which b/c of the recent thaw surface was very dense
     and hard. i can pull the plane with one finger on prop on top
     of this stuff. because of the cant in the main gear the outer
     edge of the ski is lower then i would like but still
     performed very well on the grass.all skis are 15" wide mains
     are 48" long and nw is 36" top speed was down about 5mph and
     is noticable less responsive to full throttle up. A mushy
     4ooo rpm to 5200 in flight, the engine responds like normal
     but the asi is a little slower to catch up. climbout was
     still impressive as ever. total weight of all hardware is 60
     lbs. so not so good for passenger carrying but at least spent
     2hours sipping around doing t & g's with the bunch of hanger
     buddies only able to watch from the snowbanks. will post some
     pics soon but will look like carbon copies of the ones listed
     at zenith."
    
     "just uploaded some photos. mains are 14 x 48 x 1/8 alum
     sheet with a 3.5" incline. 2- 1 x 2" rails on 12" centers
     stitch welded with a 15 " wide sheet of 1/8 uhmw popriveted
     to bottoms. an bolts for mounting hardware and clips. rest of
     the cable, bungii and hardware is local building material.
     the nw pivot is a shouldered bushing machined to size witha
     5/16 x 2 an bolt and locknut. the "s" brace is a just in case
     support. I can remove the ski without touching the nw axle.
     tail wheels are hockey pucks board and oilite bushings
     pressed into."
     http://groups.yahoo.com/group/701builders/photos/album/ 
  995817052/pic/l
     ist
    
    
     Let me know if you can access this link, there are some pics
     there of the skis... R.D.(Ron) Leclerc CH701 Plans(Scrap)
     Builder #7-6699 Porsche Power Geared Redrive Winnipeg, MB
     Canada infow(at)mts.net 3/2/2009 7:56:49 PM
    
    
     
    
    
     Hi Pat-
     Mine are about 600 sq inches each. I measured a Cub that
     turned out to be 768 sq in for the pair, and another pair for
     a Cub...Federals...that measured 1008 sq in for the pair. So
     mine are a bit oversize, but work very well in 12-14" of
     snow. Narrow skis seem to work better in hard snow, and wider
     are better for lighter snow, it seems.
    
     Lynn Matteson
     Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
     Jabiru 2200, #2062, 605 hrs
     Sensenich 62x46
     Electroair direct-fire ignition system
     Status: flying
    
    
     On Mar 2, 2009, at 5:41 PM, Pat Reilly wrote:
    
     Lynn Matteson, Looking at snowboards to convert to skis. What
     length and sq ' or " footprint do I need?
    
     Pat Reilly
     Mod 3 582 Rebuild
     Rockford,IL
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				 Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 2:34 pm    Post subject: Ski Size | 
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				Len C We don't have knee deep powder. Never! As a matter of fact we don't have powder period. I'm shooting for 600 sq " per ski. But thanks for info.
 
 Pat Reilly
 Mod 3 582 Rebuild
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  From: akflyer_2000(at)yahoo.com
  Date: Tue C 3 Mar 2009 09:58:48 -0800
  To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
  
  --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "akflyer" <akflyer_2000(at)yahoo.com>
  
  [quote="patreilly43(at)hotmail.co"]Lynn Matteson C Looking at snowboards to convert to skis. What length and sq ' or " footprint do I need? 
  
  Pat Reilly 
  Mod 3 582 Rebuild
  Rockford CIL
  
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  ohh caa caa... here we go again lol... What are the average snow depths? mine have 780 sq. in. and I would not want any less for the snow I fly off of most of the time. I had them in knee deep powder and they performed great. Only sunk in about 4 inches or so. Now to make a tail ski and I will be golden.
  
  Snakeman
  
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				 Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 3:46 pm    Post subject: Ski Size | 
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				When I was digging into ski sizes, it *seemed* that all the skis that  
 I measured were built under the assumption of about 1-2 pounds of  
 airplane weight per square inch of ski. That's a wild --- guess, but  
 again, deep powdery snow requires more flotation/area, and hard- 
 packed snow needs less area, at least from what I've been able to  
 gather.
 
 Lynn Matteson
 Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
 Jabiru 2200, #2062, 610 hrs
 Sensenich 62x46
 Electroair direct-fire ignition system
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 On Mar 3, 2009, at 5:33 PM, patrick reilly wrote:
 
  	  | Quote: | 	 		   Len, We don't have knee deep powder. Never! As a matter of fact we  
  don't have powder period. I'm shooting for 600 sq " per ski. But  
  thanks for info.
 
  Pat Reilly
  Mod 3 582 Rebuild
  Rockford, IL
 
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				 Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 6:42 am    Post subject: Ski Size | 
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				Lynn C Don't know if you are a skier C but that applies to downhill skiing also. Powder skies are much wider than carving skies.
 
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  	  | Quote: | 	 		   From: lynnmatt(at)jps.net
  Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Ski Size
  Date: Tue C 3 Mar 2009 18:45:33 -0500
  To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
  
  --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
  
  When I was digging into ski sizes C it *seemed* that all the skis that 
  I measured were built under the assumption of about 1-2 pounds of 
  airplane weight per square inch of ski. That's a wild --- guess C but 
  again C deep powdery snow requires more flotation/area C and hard- 
  packed snow needs less area C at least from what I've been able to 
  gather.
  
  Lynn Matteson
  Kitfox IV Speedster C taildragger
  Jabiru 2200 C #2062 C 610 hrs
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  On Mar 3 C 2009 C at 5:33 PM C patrick reilly wrote:
  
  > Len C We don't have knee deep powder. Never! As a matter of fact we 
  > don't have powder period. I'm shooting for 600 sq " per ski. But 
  > thanks for info.
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  > Pat Reilly
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				 Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 11:42 am    Post subject: Ski Size | 
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				I haven't skied in 20 years, and haven't kept up with that sport, but  
 what you say sounds right.
 
 Lynn Matteson
 Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
 Jabiru 2200, #2062, 610 hrs
 Sensenich 62x46
 Electroair direct-fire ignition system
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 On Mar 4, 2009, at 9:40 AM, patrick reilly wrote:
 
  	  | Quote: | 	 		   Lynn, Don't know if you are a skier, but that applies to downhill  
  skiing also. Powder skies are much wider than carving skies.
 
  do not archive
  Pat Reilly
  Mod 3 582 Rebuild
  Rockford, IL
 
 
  > From: lynnmatt(at)jps.net
  > Subject: Re: Re: Ski Size
  > Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 18:45:33 -0500
  > To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
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  > 
  >
  > When I was digging into ski sizes, it *seemed* that all the skis  
  that
  > I measured were built under the assumption of about 1-2 pounds of
  > airplane weight per square inch of ski. That's a wild --- guess, but
  > again, deep powdery snow requires more flotation/area, and hard-
  > packed snow needs less area, at least from what I've been able to
  > gather.
  >
  > Lynn Matteson
  > Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
  > Jabiru 2200, #2062, 610 hrs
  > Sensenich 62x46
  > Electroair direct-fire ignition system
  > Status: flying
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  > On Mar 3, 2009, at 5:33 PM, patrick reilly wrote:
  >
  > > Len, We don't have knee deep powder. Never! As a matter of fact we
  > > don't have powder period. I'm shooting for 600 sq " per ski. But
  > > thanks for info.
  > >
  > > Pat Reilly
  > > Mod 3 582 Rebuil= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse,  
  Chat, FAQ,
  &g====
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				 Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 7:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Ski Size | 
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				hello lynn: its odd that you guys are talking about my skis. i got some of my inspiration from looking at the picture posts of yours. The originals idea came from robert nelson in the zenair .com posts of skis. http://www.zenithair.com/stolch701/7-photo81.html  library #81...His are of the blue 701 at the top and about 2/3 down the list. I emailed him for info and he supplied me with some spec and more pics. .some others on the site show a guy standing on his skies so i got some relative sizes from that. I was just winging it as to the sizes. I just now did some calculations and came up with just under 2lb /sq in at full load. The pictures are just after traversing a 6' deep snowdrift. The plane sank about 8" but was able to hold the nw higher  with rpm and backstick. I walked back through the same drift and sank past my knees. My size 12'vs couldnt hold up the 200lb hulk.there is a fair amout to cheese slicing  and the wheels protrude about 2". the home field is grass with many short hops to pavement so  i wanted both.
 yes the other pic is of the nw ski under construction detailing the machined pivot separate from the nw axle....including pavers in the hanger
 
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				 Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 8:30 am    Post subject: Ski Size | 
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				Everyone knows size matters!
 
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