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johngoodman
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Wow I wish I had a set of those when I did the engine overhaul on the
Saratoga. I have a hard rule no tie wraps in the engine compartment just
clamps as needed and wires tied with the proper wire string as needed.
The engine looks perfect and everything is secure.
John G. Cumins
40864 horz stab priming
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AV8ORJWC
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| Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 2:41 pm Post subject: Adel Pliers |
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No. However a simple piece of hacksaw blade and your pencil grinder can make an Adel lock tool which is easy to install, easy to remove and just plain slick. Discarded Medical Forceps work on the cheap.
If you are doing triple stacked or quad stacked Adels for a living then maybe the tool will prove itself.
John Cox
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Has anybody tried out these Adel Clamp Pliers from Wicks? If so, are they worth the money?
http://www.wicksaircraft.com/catalog/product_detail.php/pid=17313~subid=12123/index.html
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dmaib@me.com
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| Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 5:59 pm Post subject: Re: Adel Pliers |
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John, I would love to know more about the hacksaw blade/pencil grinder adel clamp tool. Sounds intriguing!
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| Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 6:18 pm Post subject: Adel Pliers |
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dmaib(at)mac.com wrote:
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John, I would love to know more about the hacksaw blade/pencil grinder adel clamp tool. Sounds intriguing!
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My guess is a slot cut in a short piece to lock the two halves together.
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LarryRosen
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| Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 8:04 pm Post subject: Adel Pliers |
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I use a small pair of hemostats to hold the andel clamp closed. You can
usually pick them up at a flea market of fly mart for a couple of bucks.
Larry Rosen
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bkbrown(at)minetfiber.com
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| Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 10:41 pm Post subject: Adel Pliers |
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Hemostats and a tapered punch are hard to beat.
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Bill Schlatterer
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| Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 7:35 pm Post subject: Adel Pliers |
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How about these,... if you don't have several straight and curved hemostats,
you are missing a couple of great tools. About $4 at Dollar General. You
can also use them to hold small nuts and washers very effectively.
Bill S
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AV8ORJWC
Joined: 13 Jul 2006
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Location: Aurora, Oregon "Home of VANS"
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| Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 9:57 am Post subject: Adel Pliers |
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I will capture several pictures from work tonight and edit them down for
the bandwidth impaired. An Awl (from Harbor Freight), A discarded
locking medical forceps or two (they sell new ones at Harbor Freight), a
broken hacksaw blade 3" long(I have a few). The Pencil Die Grinder was
already talked about to fab the blade mod. The finished product will do
6-32, 8-32 or 10-32s in a second. For the more technical types that
would be MS21919 clamp installations.
Double or Quad stacked Adel's that are filled to capacity are lots of
fun (Like tying your shoes with gloves on). For the $86 bucks that will
buy a lot of Tall Neck Lone Stars, Coors, Sam Adams, Becks or Big Gulps.
We ran into a problem working inverted inside fuel cells and under floor
boards (blind) with just the forceps. An ole timer got out his "Poor
Boy" tool. Pictures will answer the 1,000 words that no one wants from
me.
That said, some of us are still suckers for more tools. Will answer
questions to the pictures "Offline".
John - #40600
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AV8ORJWC
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Location: Aurora, Oregon "Home of VANS"
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| Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:23 pm Post subject: Adel Pliers |
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Here are the shots I promised. One is a range of cheapo tools, another is a modified Canon Plug pliers, another is the use of the ole busted hacksaw blade. They should be self explanatory. They are designed to work in Tight spaces to which the really cool $86 pair will not fit. The blade is grooved with a 3" Harbor Freight cutoff wheel to accept 6,8 or 10-32 Adel Screws and MS attachment nuts. Your fingertips will love you.
John
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Cox
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 2:39 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Adel Pliers
No. However a simple piece of hacksaw blade and your pencil grinder can make an Adel lock tool which is easy to install, easy to remove and just plain slick. Discarded Medical Forceps work on the cheap.
If you are doing triple stacked or quad stacked Adels for a living then maybe the tool will prove itself.
John Cox
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Sent: Fri 3/6/2009 11:39 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Adel Pliers
--> RV10-List message posted by: "johngoodman" <johngoodman(at)earthlink.net>
Has anybody tried out these Adel Clamp Pliers from Wicks? If so, are they worth the money?
John
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bcondrey
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| Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 1:05 pm Post subject: Adel Pliers |
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I actually bought a set of Adel Pliers at OSH a couple years ago and after a couple times using them I went back to the fly market/Harbor Freight hemostats and needle nose vise grips as shown in John’s pix.
Bob
N442PM (flying)
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Cox
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 3:20 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Adel Pliers
Here are the shots I promised. One is a range of cheapo tools, another is a modified Canon Plug pliers, another is the use of the ole busted hacksaw blade. They should be self explanatory. They are designed to work in Tight spaces to which the really cool $86 pair will not fit. The blade is grooved with a 3" Harbor Freight cutoff wheel to accept 6,8 or 10-32 Adel Screws and MS attachment nuts. Your fingertips will love you.
John
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Cox
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 2:39 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Adel Pliers
No. However a simple piece of hacksaw blade and your pencil grinder can make an Adel lock tool which is easy to install, easy to remove and just plain slick. Discarded Medical Forceps work on the cheap.
If you are doing triple stacked or quad stacked Adels for a living then maybe the tool will prove itself.
John Cox
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com on behalf of johngoodman
Sent: Fri 3/6/2009 11:39 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Adel Pliers
--> RV10-List message posted by: "johngoodman" <johngoodman(at)earthlink.net>
Has anybody tried out these Adel Clamp Pliers from Wicks? If so, are they worth the money?
John
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N711JG reserved
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| Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 7:01 pm Post subject: Adel Pliers |
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Bob,
Where we you when I started down this life of building 4 airplanes ago?! Great pictures, nothing beats a simple/cheap approach. I’ll certainly use these a lot on my next project.
Thanks,
Marcus
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Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 5:05 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Adel Pliers
I actually bought a set of Adel Pliers at OSH a couple years ago and after a couple times using them I went back to the fly market/Harbor Freight hemostats and needle nose vise grips as shown in John’s pix.
Bob
N442PM (flying)
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Cox
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 3:20 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Adel Pliers
Here are the shots I promised. One is a range of cheapo tools, another is a modified Canon Plug pliers, another is the use of the ole busted hacksaw blade. They should be self explanatory. They are designed to work in Tight spaces to which the really cool $86 pair will not fit. The blade is grooved with a 3" Harbor Freight cutoff wheel to accept 6,8 or 10-32 Adel Screws and MS attachment nuts. Your fingertips will love you.
John
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Cox
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 2:39 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Adel Pliers
No. However a simple piece of hacksaw blade and your pencil grinder can make an Adel lock tool which is easy to install, easy to remove and just plain slick. Discarded Medical Forceps work on the cheap.
If you are doing triple stacked or quad stacked Adels for a living then maybe the tool will prove itself.
John Cox
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com on behalf of johngoodman
Sent: Fri 3/6/2009 11:39 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Adel Pliers
--> RV10-List message posted by: "johngoodman" <johngoodman(at)earthlink.net>
Has anybody tried out these Adel Clamp Pliers from Wicks? If so, are they worth the money?
John
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N711JG reserved
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| Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 8:52 am Post subject: Re: Adel Pliers |
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John I can tell you for certain that the answer to your question is, YES! An emphatic Yes!!! I have used these pliers for about six months now on plenty of jobs, with success and a very low stress levels. I have in the past used hemostats, safety wire, vise grips, screwdrivers...etc. All with cuts, limited success, and 4 times the effort and time. I just finished using these pliers to install adel clamps on all the fluid carrying lines that I replaced in a Mooney. Need I say more than MOONEY. Here is one example... Two oil lines side by side, double stacked adel clamps, bushing with the AN bolt running through the firewall secured with a nut in the wheel well. Took me no longer than 45 seconds to perform this task without any stress. Buy the pliers, you'll be glad you did.
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