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		dlm46007(at)cox.net Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 12:48 pm    Post subject: annual inspection | 
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				Currently in the  first annual at 135TT. Just installed the new Matco axle. Very easy install.  Installed an addtional Odyssey 680 on the firewal. pictures enclosed. found some  surface corrosion on the aileron torque tubes ; removed and treating with AVL  externaly and internally Found slight seap of 5606 at the hard line  bulkhead fitting at the tunnel for left main. Probably caused the left line to  suck a little air and drag the left brake. left brake worn more than right, will  replace both and new tires. My guess is that the tires have 250-300 landings.  Horizontal stab bulkhead shows no stress whatsoever; we used Hi-Locs to install  stab into he longerons. Found some abraison on the right side of tunnel caused  by left rudder pedal linkage bolt Will put a thin delrin sheet on the side of  the tunnel or perhaps stainless.
 
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		bcondrey
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 5:12 am    Post subject: Re: annual inspection | 
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				Yet another thing to keep an eye out for at annual time...
 
 I just finished the bulkhead reinforcement SB as the first part of my first annual and found a bad bearing on one of the elevators - it almost feels like grit is in it.  It wasn't noticeable through the control stick or when moving the elevators themselves but when disassembled it was very clearly an issue.
 
 Check those planes carefully!
 
 Bob
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		jim(at)CombsFive.Com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 7:08 am    Post subject: annual inspection | 
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				Another item to check at annual time.Backup EFIS Battery.  Run the EFIS on backup and time how long it takes to go flat.  Don't just assume you have what is documented on the backup battery.Jim C (N312F - Flying - 55+ hours)-----------------------------------------------------------> RV10-List message posted by: "bcondrey" <bob.condrey(at)baesystems.com>Yet another thing to keep an eye out for at annual time...I just finished the bulkhead reinforcement SB as the first part of myfirst annual and found a bad bearing on one of the elevators - it almostfeels like grit is in it.  It wasn't noticeable through the control stickor when moving the elevators themselves but when disassembled it was veryclearly an issue.Check those planes carefully!BobN442PM (flying)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 38768#238768   [quote][b]
 
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				 Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 10:12 am    Post subject: annual inspection | 
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				my avionics backup battery is trickle charged every time  the engine runs. Health of the battery is apparent each time avionics are booted  prior to engine start.
 
    From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of  jim(at)CombsFive.Com
 Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 8:06  AM
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 Another item to check at annual time.
 
 Backup EFIS  Battery.  Run the EFIS on backup and time how long it takes to go  flat.  Don't just assume you have what is documented on the backup  battery.
 
 Jim C (N312F - Flying - 55+  hours)
 
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 -->  RV10-List message posted by: "bcondrey"  <bob.condrey(at)baesystems.com>
 
 Yet another thing to keep an eye out  for at annual time...
 
 I just finished the bulkhead reinforcement SB as  the first part of my
 first annual and found a bad bearing on one of the  elevators - it almost
 feels like grit is in it. It wasn't noticeable through  the control stick
 or when moving the elevators themselves but when  disassembled it was very
 clearly an issue.
 
 Check those planes  carefully!
 
 Bob
 N442PM (flying)
 
 
 Read this topic  online  here:
 
 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=238768#238768
 
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		jim(at)CombsFive.Com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 12:03 pm    Post subject: annual inspection | 
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				But that never runs the battery down.  How many of us expect the battery to last the "Hour" or so that is documented by the manufacturer.  I wouldn't be at all surprised if the battery didn't go the last mile when needed.  I do expect to "Test" it at each annual just to verify its proper operation.Just wondering what if anything others are doing to very the backup battery is good.  Replace it on "Time" or test to verify it's operation?Jim C (N312F - Flying)Do Not Archive-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------my avionics backup battery is trickle charged every time the engine runs.Health of the battery is apparent each time avionics are booted prior toengine start.  _____From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Ofjim(at)CombsFive.ComSent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 8:06 AMTo: rv10-list(at)matronics.comSubject: Re: Re: annual inspectionAnother item to check at annual time.Backup EFIS Battery.  Run the EFIS on backup and time how long it takes togo flat.  Don't just assume you have what is documented on the backupbattery.Jim C (N312F - Flying - 55+ hours)-----------------------------------------------------------> RV10-List message posted by: "bcondrey" <bob.condrey(at)baesystems.com>Yet another thing to keep an eye out for at annual time...I just finished the bulkhead reinforcement SB as the first part of myfirst annual and found a bad bearing on one of the elevators - it almostfeels like grit is in it. It wasn't noticeable through the control stickor when moving the elevators themselves but when disassembled it was veryclearly an issue.Check those planes carefully!BobN442PM (flying)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 38768#238768   [quote][b]
 
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		jesse(at)saintaviation.co Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 1:05 pm    Post subject: annual inspection | 
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				Also not a bad thing to do at least once under day VFR in flight to get actual activity on the unit being powered by the backup battery, then to compare it to static battery life for comparison purposes.
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 On Apr 12, 2009, at 11:06 AM, jim(at)CombsFive.Com (jim(at)CombsFive.Com) wrote:
 
 [quote]Another item to check at annual time.
 
 Backup EFIS Battery.  Run the EFIS on backup and time how long it takes to go flat.  Don't just assume you have what is documented on the backup battery.
 
 Jim C (N312F - Flying - 55+ hours)
 
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  <bob.condrey(at)baesystems.com (bob.condrey(at)baesystems.com)>
 
 Yet another thing to keep an eye out for at annual time...
 
 I just finished the bulkhead reinforcement SB as the first part of my
 first annual and found a bad bearing on one of the elevators - it almost
 feels like grit is in it.  It wasn't noticeable through the control stick
 or when moving the elevators themselves but when disassembled it was very
 clearly an issue.
 
 Check those planes carefully!
 
 Bob
 N442PM (flying)
 
 
 Read this topic online here:
 
 [url=http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 38768#238768]http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 38768#238768[/url]
 
    
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		speckter(at)comcast.net Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 3:33 pm    Post subject: annual inspection | 
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				Since I lived up north for most of my life I have always replaced my battery at every annual.  In our cars we replace them every 2 to 3 years to make sure we don’t get stranded.  I plan on the same schedule on my 10.  You can always use a spare battery for non critical non aviation uses around home.  
    
 Gary Specketer  
 40274 Flying  
          
   
 From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of jim(at)CombsFive.Com
  Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 4:02 PM
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 But that never runs the battery down.  How many of us expect the battery to last the "Hour" or so that is documented by the manufacturer.  I wouldn't be at all surprised if the battery didn't go the last mile when needed.  I do expect to "Test" it at each annual just to verify its proper operation.
  
  Just wondering what if anything others are doing to very the backup battery is good.  Replace it on "Time" or test to verify it's operation?
  
  Jim C (N312F - Flying)
  
  Do Not Archive
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  my avionics backup battery is trickle charged every time the engine runs.
  Health of the battery is apparent each time avionics are booted prior to
  engine start.
  
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  [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
  jim(at)CombsFive.Com
  Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 8:06 AM
  To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
  Subject: Re: Re: annual inspection
  
  
  Another item to check at annual time.
  
  Backup EFIS Battery. Run the EFIS on backup and time how long it takes to
  go flat. Don't just assume you have what is documented on the backup
  battery.
  
  Jim C (N312F - Flying - 55+ hours)
  
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  Yet another thing to keep an eye out for at annual time...
  
  I just finished the bulkhead reinforcement SB as the first part of my
  first annual and found a bad bearing on one of the elevators - it almost
  feels like grit is in it. It wasn't noticeable through the control stick
  or when moving the elevators themselves but when disassembled it was very
  clearly an issue.
  
  Check those planes carefully!
  
  Bob
  N442PM (flying)
  
  
  
  
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		Kelly McMullen
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 4:11 pm    Post subject: annual inspection | 
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				Some what unnecessary in cold climates. In 22 yrs in Fairbanks never replaced a battery in less than 5 years. Cold weather may reduce the cranking ability at extreme cold temps by slowing the reaction, but has little impact on the capacity or life. Hot weather, such as Aridzona accelerates sulfation of the plates and vehicles that have batteries unprotected in the engine compartment rarely get more than 2 year life.
  
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 Since I lived up north for most of my life I have always replaced my battery at every annual.  In our cars we replace them every 2 to 3 years to make sure we don’t get stranded.  I plan on the same schedule on my 10.  You can always use a spare battery for non critical non aviation uses around home.  
    
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				 Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 4:22 pm    Post subject: annual inspection | 
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				I used a 680 for starting the Glastar. It lasted from  11/2003 until replaced 10/2008. It was still starting the aircraft but would  hesitate if not used for several days. That was 500 hours and at least three  starts per week. You might want to consider Odyssey batteries. On my certified  C177RG which I owned from 1976- 2005, the FAA PMA Gill never lasted more than 2  years. I have Odyssey 680s in the 10.
 
    From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of  gary
 Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 4:27 PM
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 Since I lived up north  for most of my life I have always replaced my battery at every annual.  In  our cars we replace them every 2 to 3 years to make sure we don’t get  stranded.  I plan on the same schedule on my 10.  You can always use a  spare battery for non critical non aviation uses around  home. 
   
 Gary  Specketer 
 40274  Flying 
      
  
 From:  owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of jim(at)CombsFive.Com
 Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 4:02  PM
 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
 Subject: RE: Re: annual  inspection
  
   
 But that never runs the battery down.   How many of us expect the battery to last the "Hour" or so that is documented by  the manufacturer.  I wouldn't be at all surprised if the battery didn't go  the last mile when needed.  I do expect to "Test" it at each annual just to  verify its proper operation.
 
 Just wondering what if anything others are  doing to very the backup battery is good.  Replace it on "Time" or test to  verify it's operation?
 
 Jim C (N312F - Flying)
 
 Do Not  Archive
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 my  avionics backup battery is trickle charged every time the engine runs.
 Health  of the battery is apparent each time avionics are booted prior to
 engine  start.
 
 _____
 
 From:  owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
 [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com]  On Behalf Of
 jim(at)CombsFive.Com
 Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 8:06 AM
 To:  rv10-list(at)matronics.com
 Subject:  Re: Re: annual inspection
 Another item to check at annual  time.
 
 Backup EFIS Battery. Run the EFIS  on backup and time how long it takes to
 go flat. Don't just assume you have  what is documented on the backup
 battery.
 
 Jim C (N312F - Flying - 55+  hours)
 
 ---------------------------------------------------------
 
 -->  RV10-List message posted by: "bcondrey"  <bob.condrey(at)baesystems.com>
 
 Yet another thing to keep an eye out  for at annual time...
 
 I just finished the bulkhead reinforcement SB as  the first part of my
 first annual and found a bad bearing on one of the  elevators - it almost
 feels like grit is in it. It wasn't noticeable through  the control stick
 or when moving the elevators themselves but when  disassembled it was very
 clearly an issue.
 
 Check those planes  carefully!
 
 Bob
 N442PM (flying)
 
 
 Read this topic  online  here:
 
 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=238768#238768
 
 
 
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