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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:05 am    Post subject: ASI Reply with quote

Re pitot.

Thanks Rick. Having thought it through I had decided that there must be an internal tube involved.

Thanks for the drawing. Pretty neat. Too tricky for me to get involved with.

I remember that many years ago there was an English Ccompany called Ackles and Pollocks who specialised in small tubes. An foreign company sent them the smallest tube which they manufactured with a note "Beat that".

A and P sent it back with their own product inside it.

I will contact them (If they still exist)

Thanks Rick and John.

Pat
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 5:54 pm    Post subject: Re: ASI Reply with quote

When I made a new pitot tube for my UltraStar, I made a concentric pitot/static tube. The inner tube the original 1/4" aluminum tube that was on the plane when I bought it, but i added an outer tube of 3/8" diameter brass with four small holes in the middle, tapered bushings at each end of the outer tube, and a small brass tube soldered to attach the static line. It works much better than having the static air just venting inside the instrument pod as the previous owner had it (every time I moved my foot the reading would change!)

It's still not entirely accurate, and I don't know why. At 30-35 mph it seems correct, according to averaged GPS readings upwind and downwind... but at 45 mph indicated (level flight at 5800 cruise) the averaged GPS readings are more like 55 mph.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 1:22 am    Post subject: ASI Reply with quote

Hi Dana,
very neat job.

I envy you your ability to work in metal. I grew up in a timber yard and can
make a reasonable joint in wood but never had any metalwork training.
Welding and stuff is a mystery to me. I might just about make a soldered
joint if pushed but thats it.

Nevertheless I know a man who can do some stuff in metal and I might try
that if the other simpler suggestions for a mod to my piot don`t work.

Grotty weather day today. Just off to repair the wooden floor to my hangar
Thanks

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:14 am    Post subject: ASI Reply with quote

Aircraft Spruce lists a couple of the single tube designs,>>

Thanks Bill.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 9:40 am    Post subject: ASI Reply with quote

I lost your phone no,Call again when you`re free..

Hi Vince,

01225 783450.

Bloody annoyed at the moment. Been out on a Rotary junket all day. I relised that Kemble Air Day was on but I have just heard the the Vulcan was scheduled to be there.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 11:43 am    Post subject: ASI Reply with quote

I understand completely.  I saw the Vulcan fly at Toronto a few years back.  Mighty impressive.Nothing like it.  
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 1:47 am    Post subject: ASI Reply with quote

I saw the Vulcan fly at Toronto >>

Hi Bob,
An incredible a/c. I saw her first at Farnborough Airshow. During the previous years there had been a series of small, similarly shaped single seaters built to explore the delta wing characteristics(It was a long time ago) but on this occasion the three single seaters flew escort to this massive bomber.
The flight was first seen at long distance as they waited for their display entrance, Just glimpsed through the clouds. It reminded me of that scene in `Shape of things to come` when the first flying machine seen for years flies over the settlement. Heart stopping! When the Vulcan, which hardly anyone knew existed, barrelled down the runway at nought feet with the afterburners roaring. WOW!
When the Vulcan went to the States to take part in the bombing competitions, which it won, the US put up an intercept shield. The Vulcan crossed the coast, went knap of the earth, and no one saw her again until she popped up to circuit height at the destination field.
Read Vulcan 403 (I think) for the story of how we managed to bomb the Stanley airfield during the Falklands disagreement. If the Argies had left it another two weeks the last of the Vulcan fleet would have been out of service.
No one had experience of accurate bombing as the Vulcan was designed to drop an atomic bomb where accuracy was not required and they had to dig out an old Lancaster pilot from WW2 to brief the crew. We had no experience of long distance raids and had to cobble together a fleet of tankers and the Vulcan refuelling probes didn`t fit the kit. Museums were raided and probes pinched from displays .One bit of kit was being used as an ashtray in the Officers mess at one airfield. Typical Brit lash up and muddle through, but it worked. Just!
The last remaining Vulcan is kept in the air by volunteers and public gifts of money and she cannot go on indefinitely at around a million pounds a year.

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