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				 Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 3:58 pm    Post subject: Flap Skins Too Short? | 
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				Dear Listers,
 
 Please see the attached photo taken from the underside of my RV-8.  I was going to cut the bottom flap skin to match the diagonal of the fuselage skin per the "View E-E Flaps Fairing" on DGW 80.  But, it appears that the aft portion of the flap skin was cut too short by the QB builders.  Note that the front part seems to be exactly the right length and that diagonal cut will clip just perfectly.  But on the aft skin of the flap, it is cut off about 2" too short to continue the diagonal line.  Since the fuselage side skin is curving up right there, this will act like a giant air scoop.  The flaps appear to be mounted in the correct position, left/right as they are the required 3/16" from the ailerons.
 
 The left side is exactly the same as the right side as shown in the picture.
 
 Thoughts?
 
 Thanks!
 
 Matt Dralle
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				 Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:25 pm    Post subject: Flap Skins Too Short? | 
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				I got an Antivirus "error", what ever that means, when trying to open this file......
 
 Scott
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 From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
 Subject: Flap Skins Too Short?
 To: rv-list(at)matronics.com, rv8-list(at)matronics.com
 Date: Sunday, July 19, 2009, 4:57 PM
 
     
 Dear Listers,
 
 Please see the attached photo taken from the underside of my RV-8.  I was going to cut the bottom flap skin to match the diagonal of the fuselage skin per the "View E-E Flaps Fairing" on DGW 80.  But, it appears that the aft portion of the flap skin was cut too short by the QB builders.  Note that the front part seems to be exactly the right length and that diagonal cut will clip just perfectly.  But on the aft skin of the flap, it is cut off about 2" too short to continue the diagonal line.  Since the fuselage side skin is curving up right there, this will act like a giant air scoop.  The flaps appear to be mounted in the correct position, left/right as they are the required 3/16" from the ailerons.
 
 The left side is exactly the same as the right side as shown in the picture
 
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				 Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:24 pm    Post subject: Flap Skins Too Short? | 
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				Matt,
  I'd like to respond, but I have no idea where your photos are.
  Stan Sutterfield
  Do not archive
   	  | Quote: | 	 		  Please    see the attached photo taken from the underside of my RV-8.  I was    going
 to cut the bottom flap skin to match the diagonal of the fuselage    skin per the
 "View E-E Flaps Fairing" on DGW 80.  But, it appears that    the aft portion of
 the flap skin was cut too short by the QB    builders.  Note that the front part
 seems to be exactly the right    length and that diagonal cut will clip just perfectly.
 But on the aft skin    of the flap, it is cut off about 2" too short to
 continue the diagonal    line.  Since the fuselage side skin is curving up right
 there, this    will act like a giant air scoop.  The flaps appear to be mounted    in
 the correct position, left/right as they are the required 3/16" from the    ailerons.
 
 The left side is exactly the same as the right side as shown    in the picture.
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				 Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:30 pm    Post subject: Flap Skins Too Short? | 
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				Hi Stan,
 
 You can see the photo here:
 
         http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=60433
 
 Matt
 At 02:21 PM 7/20/2009  Monday, you wrote:
  	  | Quote: | 	 		  Matt,
 I'd like to respond, but I have no idea where your photos are.
 Stan Sutterfield
 Do not archive
 Please see the attached photo taken from the underside of my RV-8.  I was going
 to cut the bottom flap skin to match the diagonal of the fuselage skin per the
 "View E-E Flaps Fairing" on DGW 80.  But, it appears that the aft portion of
 the flap skin was cut too short by the QB builders.  Note that the front part
 seems to be exactly the right length and that diagonal cut will clip just perfectly.
 But on the aft skin of the flap, it is cut off about 2" too short to
 continue the diagonal line.  Since the fuselage side skin is curving up right
 there, this will act like a giant air scoop.  The flaps appear to be mounted in
 the correct position, left/right as they are the required 3/16" from the ailerons.
 
 The left side is exactly the same as the right side as shown in the picture.
 
  
 
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				 Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 4:05 pm    Post subject: Flap Skins Too Short? | 
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				I don't have an answer for you but had no trouble finding, or opening the photo.
 Rick
 
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  	  | Quote: | 	 		   From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
  Subject: Re: Re: Flap Skins Too Short?
  To: rv8-list(at)matronics.com
  Date: Monday, July 20, 2009, 6:28 PM
  
  Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
  
  Hi Stan,
  
  You can see the photo here:
  
          http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=60433
  
  Matt
  
  
  At 02:21 PM 7/20/2009  Monday, you wrote:
  >Matt,
  >I'd like to respond, but I have no idea where your
  photos are.
  >Stan Sutterfield
  >Do not archive
  >Please see the attached photo taken from the underside
  of my RV-8.  I was going
  >to cut the bottom flap skin to match the diagonal of
  the fuselage skin per the
  >"View E-E Flaps Fairing" on DGW 80.  But, it
  appears that the aft portion of
  >the flap skin was cut too short by the QB
  builders.  Note that the front part
  >seems to be exactly the right length and that diagonal
  cut will clip just perfectly.
  >But on the aft skin of the flap, it is cut off about 2"
  too short to
  >continue the diagonal line.  Since the fuselage
  side skin is curving up right
  >there, this will act like a giant air scoop.  The
  flaps appear to be mounted in
  >the correct position, left/right as they are the
  required 3/16" from the ailerons.
  >
  >The left side is exactly the same as the right side as
  shown in the picture.
  >
  > 
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  >What's for dinner tonight? Find <http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?ncid=emlcntusfood00000008>quick
  and easy dinner ideas for any occasion.
  
  
  
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				 Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 4:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Flap Skins Too Short? | 
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				Here's what I heard back from Van's today regarding the issue including the updated picture:
 
  	  | Quote: | 	 		  | Simply rivet on a .040" extension (like the -4 & -6 builders had to) as shown in the attached picture.  You can bend it to fit any contour or overlap the flap intersection fairing as you see fit.  Use pop or solid flush rivets to attach. | 	  
 
 Um, good thing its underneath...  
 
 Matt
 
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				 Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 5:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Flap Skins Too Short? | 
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				Matt,
 
 That's not the solution I would have expected to hear.  You are way ahead of me right now.  I am about to rivet my flaps together and I'm doing a standard kit.  When I saw your 1st pics, I thought the skins looked to be cut about the same as mine.  After seeing what Van's suggested you do, I went out to measure my skins.  From the first rivet out to the inboard edge of the skin, I measure 3-7/8".  The last rivet toward the aft end of the flap measures about 2-7/8" to the edge.  Is this what yours measures?  Just thinking out loud here, if you splice an additional skin extension to the existing flap skin as you have it drawn, wouldn't the shop head of the rivets contact the bottom of the fuselage thereby keeping the flap skin from resting flat against the fuselage?
 
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