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davidjoyce(at)doctors.org
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Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 2:13 am Post subject: Tail plane Pip Pin Cover

Richard, Apart from covers it's worth considering getting rid of the ring in

the pip pins so that all of the holes can be much smaller. A small piece of

steel in the hole the ring goes through allows you to fish the pip pin out

and replace it with a tool that has a spiral groove that screws on to the

pip pin and pulls up  the central portion of it, thus disengaging the pips.

The tool is only about a centimetre in diameter, (lives on the ignition key

ring), and the access holes in the tail planes and wing roots only need to

be slightly wider. This makes the system pretty much tamper proof, so that

no passing youth can readily go off with a pip pin to see how well the plane

flies without it, and also covering the hole with a small circle of sticky

white plastic is neat and easy. Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ

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rogerjohnsheridan(at)yaho
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 2:15 am Post subject: Tail plane Pip Pin Cover

I like that idea David, would you mind emailing me a pic or details  

of the tool sometime please (no rush).

Much appreciated,



Roger



On 31 Mar 2006, at 11:07, David Joyce wrote:



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 Richard, Apart from covers it's worth considering getting rid of  

 the ring in

 the pip pins so that all of the holes can be much smaller. A small  

 piece of

 steel in the hole the ring goes through allows you to fish the pip  

 pin out

 and replace it with a tool that has a spiral groove that screws on  

 to the

 pip pin and pulls up  the central portion of it, thus disengaging  

 the pips.

 The tool is only about a centimetre in diameter, (lives on the  

 ignition key

 ring), and the access holes in the tail planes and wing roots only  

 need to

 be slightly wider. This makes the system pretty much tamper proof,  

 so that

 no passing youth can readily go off with a pip pin to see how well  

 the plane

 flies without it, and also covering the hole with a small circle of  

 sticky

 white plastic is neat and easy. Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ

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pete(at)lawless.info
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 3:27 am Post subject: Tail plane Pip Pin Cover

Even simpler, get rid of the ring and just make a hook from some stiff wire.

It's very easy to just hook the pins out.  The same hook works on the wing

pins.  This leaves you with a hole just big enough to get the pip pin down.



Pete

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nwcmc(at)tiscali.co.uk
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 5:04 am Post subject: Tail plane Pip Pin Cover

It helps to mark the orientation of the hole on the head of the pip pin because

it is not easy to see when the pin is installed. I found that the small long

nosed pliers I carry in my travelling tool kit extract and insert the pins

with ease should a hook tool not be readily available.



Nigel Charles

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Subject: RE: Tail plane Pip Pin Cover

Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 12:23:23 +0100

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Even simpler, get rid of the ring and just make a hook from some stiff wire.

It's very easy to just hook the pins out.  The same hook works on the wing

pins.  This leaves you with a hole just big enough to get the pip pin down.



Pete 



 

 

 




	


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scrimm

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 81
Location: Gilbert, SC SC99

Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 6:25 am Post subject: Tail plane Pip Pin Cover

Go to my gallery on the Europa Owners site and you will see a couple of pics

of "Split-Ring" pliers.  They are just the thing with a flat arm on one side

and the other is bent at 90 degrees it does the perfect job.



Here is the link



http://www.europaowners.org/modules.php?set_albumName=album48&op=modload&nam

e=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php



Steve



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paul.mcallister

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
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Location: Waukesha, WI USA

Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 6:42 am Post subject: Tail plane Pip Pin Cover

Hi All,



Some time ago "somewhere" I saw some photographs where a pair of long nosed

pliers were modified so the ends of the were bent / ground so that the would

go into the holes in side of he pip pin where the ring normally goes.  It

seemed to be a neat idea, does this ring a bell with anyone ?



Paul

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astills(at)cox.net
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 8:02 am Post subject: Tail plane Pip Pin Cover

Paul,

I also saw that photo and made a pair of the long nose pliers for the pip

pins. Just get a pair of needle

nose pliers and cut off one end, then bend the other "long" end over so it

touches. Works great on

the pip pins. Take out the ring and you have a great remove and installer.

Al Stills

N625AZ



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scrimm

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Location: Gilbert, SC SC99

Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 9:04 am Post subject: Tail plane Pip Pin Cover

Paul,



Those were my pliers that I did.  What happens was that the metal was

hardened and the bend didn't last.  Then I found the split ring pliers at

Bass Pro Shot and they are perfect. 



Steve



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Bill & Sue

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 48
Location: Malvern, Worcs. UK (Defford, Croft Farm)

Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 4:08 am Post subject: Re: Tail plane Pip Pin Cover

If you push a suitable rod (small screwdriver) up through the drain hole it will retract the locking balls and push the pip-pin up without needing any special tools.

This way you can make the pip pin holes just big enough for the pin itself.



We only worked this out after spending hours making a screw cap for the pip-pins before deciding that a couple of cm of tape was neater, lighter and simpler.



Bill and Sue



465 Trigear. Still finding an infinite number of minor jobs to do on the airframe.

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