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		partner14
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 8:01 am    Post subject: Rivet direction?  Important comment!!!! | 
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				Hey guys, can we follow the new guys lead (gosh, it's kind of nice NOT to be the new guy anymore) and put our address and maybe a phone number on the bottom of each email.  It sure would make it easier to contact each other for both direct questions/responses, and linking up on cross country flights.  What do ya think?
  Don McDonald
  Lincoln CA  LHM
  916-801-8402
 
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 From: Sam Clark <helosammy(at)gmail.com>
 Subject: Rivet direction?
 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
 Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 6:51 PM
 
        
 Hello RV-10 builders,
  
   I have just started building.  I pretty much jumped right in with both feet and it seems to be going well so far. I have finished the vert stab and am getting ready to start riveting the rudder.  I started on the horizontal stab spars while waiting for a replacement rudder stiffener and have come across a bit of a perplexing question, how do I know which way to orient the rivets?  It isn’t really clear in the plans, I think they should probably all go the same direction so the side I countersink gives a pretty good clue to the direction a flush rivet goes.  Am I correct in thinking they all go the same direction or does it matter?  I know for the trailing edges I should alternate direction to help keep things straight.  Any insight would help, thanks in advance.
  
  
  
 Sam Clark 
  
 Lexington Park, MD
  
  
 
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				 Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 8:55 am    Post subject: Rivet direction?  Important comment!!!! | 
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				I usually contact offlist if I offer the telephone number;  putting them out each time will provide a lot of unwanted calls from outside the  list. If you doubt, just Google an RV10 topic and watch the RV10list emails pop  up.
 
    From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don  McDonald
 Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 8:58 AM
 To:  rv10-list(at)matronics.com
 Subject: Re: Rivet direction?  Important comment!!!!
  
                    Hey guys, can we follow the new guys lead (gosh, it's kind of nice        NOT to be the new guy anymore) and put our address and maybe a phone        number on the bottom of each email.  It sure would make it easier to        contact each other for both direct questions/responses, and linking up on        cross country flights.  What do ya think?
        Don McDonald
        Lincoln CA  LHM
        916-801-8402
 
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 Subject: Rivet          direction?
 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
 Date: Thursday, September          17, 2009, 6:51 PM
 
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 Hello RV-10 builders,
          
   I have just started building.  I pretty          much jumped right in with both feet and it seems to be going well so          far. I have finished the vert stab and am getting ready to start          riveting the rudder.  I started on the horizontal stab spars while          waiting for a replacement rudder stiffener and have come across a bit of          a perplexing question, how do I know which way to orient the          rivets?  It isn’t really clear in the plans, I think they should          probably all go the same direction so the side I countersink gives a          pretty good clue to the direction a flush rivet goes.  Am I correct          in thinking they all go the same direction or does it matter?  I          know for the trailing edges I should alternate direction to help keep          things straight.  Any insight would help, thanks in          advance.
          
           
          
 Sam Clark          
          
 Lexington Park, MD         
          
           
          
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				 Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 9:16 am    Post subject: Rivet direction?  Important comment!!!! | 
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				Don;
  I might suggest we use Tim Olson's builder (secure) site for  this. Anything that we publish here remains in the public domain for a long  time. The numbers (address and phone) are on his  site already. If you don’t have access (for builders and fliers only)  contact Tim.
  Great idea however!
  Pascal
   
 
   From: Don McDonald (building_partner(at)yahoo.com) 
  Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 8:58 AM
  To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com) 
  Subject: Re: Rivet direction? Important  comment!!!!
  
 
                    Hey guys, can we follow the new guys lead (gosh, it's kind of nice        NOT to be the new guy anymore) and put our address and maybe a phone        number on the bottom of each email.  It sure would make it easier to        contact each other for both direct questions/responses, and linking up on        cross country flights.  What do ya think?
        Don McDonald
        Lincoln CA  LHM
        916-801-8402
 
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 From:          Sam Clark <helosammy(at)gmail.com>
 Subject: Rivet          direction?
 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
 Date: Thursday, September          17, 2009, 6:51 PM
 
                                        
 Hello RV-10 builders,
          
   I have just started building.  I pretty          much jumped right in with both feet and it seems to be going well so          far. I have finished the vert stab and am getting ready to start          riveting the rudder.  I started on the horizontal stab spars while          waiting for a replacement rudder stiffener and have come across a bit of          a perplexing question, how do I know which way to orient the          rivets?  It isn’t really clear in the plans, I think they should          probably all go the same direction so the side I countersink gives a          pretty good clue to the direction a flush rivet goes.  Am I correct          in thinking they all go the same direction or does it matter?  I          know for the trailing edges I should alternate direction to help keep          things straight.  Any insight would help, thanks in          advance.
          
           
          
 Sam Clark          
          
 Lexington Park, MD          
          
           
          
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				 Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:48 am    Post subject: Rivet direction?  Important comment!!!! | 
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				Don,  
    
 A better idea is to encourage everyone to register on Tim’s site, where contact information is secure.  I have no problem if any new RV-10 builder gives me a call looking to get questions answered, but I prefer to not post my unlisted phone number on a public forum.  
    
 Bob  
    
      
 From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don McDonald
  Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 11:58 AM
  To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
  Subject: Re: Rivet direction? Important comment!!!!  
   
               
 Hey guys, can we follow the new guys lead (gosh, it's kind   of nice NOT to be the new guy anymore) and put our address and maybe a phone   number on the bottom of each email.  It sure would make it easier to   contact each other for both direct questions/responses, and linking up on   cross country flights.  What do ya think?   
       
 Don McDonald   
       
 Lincoln CA  LHM   
       
 916-801-8402
    
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    From: Sam Clark <helosammy(at)gmail.com>
    Subject: Rivet direction?
    To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
    Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 6:51 PM         
 Hello   RV-10 builders,   
    
     I have just started building.  I pretty much jumped right in with both   feet and it seems to be going well so far. I have finished the vert stab and   am getting ready to start riveting the rudder.  I started on the   horizontal stab spars while waiting for a replacement rudder stiffener and   have come across a bit of a perplexing question, how do I know which way to   orient the rivets?  It isn’t really clear in the plans, I think they   should probably all go the same direction so the side I countersink gives a   pretty good clue to the direction a flush rivet goes.  Am I correct in   thinking they all go the same direction or does it matter?  I know for   the trailing edges I should alternate direction to help keep things   straight.  Any insight would help, thanks in advance.   
    
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 Lexington   Park, MD   
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				 Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 1:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Rivet direction?  Important comment!!!! | 
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				Ok, no telephone numbers.... but boy would it be nice if we new where everybody was from.
 Don
 Lincoln, CA LHM
 
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		partner14
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 2:10 pm    Post subject: Rivet direction?  Important comment!!!! | 
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				Gotcha Bob... Pascal already updated me on the list on Tim's site.  Maybe we should provide some directions as to how their info can be updated.  I know several that are on the list without updated info, and some that aren't even on the list.
  Thanks again, Don
 
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 From: Bob Leffler <rv(at)thelefflers.com>
 Subject: RE: Rivet direction? Important comment!!!!
 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
 Date: Saturday, September 19, 2009, 9:39 AM
 
        
 Don,
  
  
  
 A better idea is to encourage everyone to register on Tim’s site, where contact information is secure.  I have no problem if any new RV-10 builder gives me a call looking to get questions answered, but I prefer to not post my unlisted phone number on a public forum.
  
  
  
 Bob
  
  
  
  
   
 From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don McDonald
 Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 11:58 AM
 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
 Subject: Re: Rivet direction? Important comment!!!!
 
  
  
       
 Hey guys, can we follow the new guys lead (gosh, it's kind of nice NOT to be the new guy anymore) and put our address and maybe a phone number on the bottom of each email.  It sure would make it easier to contact each other for both direct questions/responses, and linking up on cross country flights.  What do ya think?
 
   
 Don McDonald
 
   
 Lincoln CA  LHM
 
   
 916-801-8402
 
 --- On Thu, 9/17/09, Sam Clark <helosammy(at)gmail.com> wrote:
 
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 From: Sam Clark <helosammy(at)gmail.com>
 Subject: Rivet direction?
 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
 Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 6:51 PM
    
 Hello RV-10 builders,
 
  
   I have just started building.  I pretty much jumped right in with both feet and it seems to be going well so far. I have finished the vert stab and am getting ready to start riveting the rudder.  I started on the horizontal stab spars while waiting for a replacement rudder stiffener and have come across a bit of a perplexing question, how do I know which way to orient the rivets?  It isn’t really clear in the plans, I think they should probably all go the same direction so the side I countersink gives a pretty good clue to the direction a flush rivet goes.  Am I correct in thinking they all go the same direction or does it matter?  I know for the trailing edges I should alternate direction to help keep things straight.  Any insight would help, thanks in advance.
 
  
  
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 Lexington Park, MD
  
  
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