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pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com Guest
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 1:54 am Post subject: Heel brakes or ??? |
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When you pushed on the toe brake, the whole pedal assembly would
tend to move away, so you had to press on the opposite pedal with a
balancing force. This required very deft feet. We didn't leave them on for
long - the heels worked much much better>>
Hi Denis,
looks as though you unloaded your suspect stuff on the English Distributor.
I have toe brakes on my 3xtra and the problem is exactly as you describe.
The rudder pedals move away from you unless you specifically balance the
force with the other foot. The strain on the rudder cables must be terrific.
That and the Flap lever......Grief.
Cheers
Pat
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Thom Riddle

Joined: 10 Jan 2006 Posts: 1597 Location: Buffalo, NY, USA (9G0)
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:06 am Post subject: Re: Heel brakes or ??? |
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not kolb related
Old Poops,
Recently, I've been seeing a photo of what looks like a Red Acura NSX by your name on your posts. 3 questions: Is that what it is? Do you own/drive it? Why that and not your very nice MkIII or your smiling bearded countenance?
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:09 am Post subject: Heel brakes or ??? |
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Pat,
Don't know why they might have adopted the toe brakes. Probably because
real airplanes have toe brakes and they wanted it to be more like a real
airplane - dunno. Certainly not from our recommendation and we never sold
toes brakes either.
Flap handle ... sorry about that.
Dennis
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:28 am Post subject: Heel brakes or ??? |
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Pat, would it be possible to put an extension on the flap handle to
give it a more advantageous reach?
-and BTW, how many xtras had it there?
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On 5, Oct 2009, at 8:09 AM, Dennis Souder wrote:
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Pat,
Don't know why they might have adopted the toe brakes. Probably
because
real airplanes have toe brakes and they wanted it to be more like a
real
airplane - dunno. Certainly not from our recommendation and we
never sold
toes brakes either.
Flap handle ... sorry about that.
Dennis
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Richard Pike

Joined: 09 Jan 2006 Posts: 1671 Location: Blountville, Tennessee
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:59 am Post subject: Re: Heel brakes or ??? |
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Thom Riddle wrote: | not kolb related
Old Poops,
Recently, I've been seeing a photo of what looks like a Red Acura NSX by your name on your posts. 3 questions: Is that what it is? Do you own/drive it? Why that and not your very nice MkIII or your smiling bearded countenance?
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Answer 1. Yes it is.
Answer 2. Yes I do.
Answer 3. Because the car is a whole lot better looking than I am, and frankly, (IMO) a lot better looking than my MKIII. The first (and only other) NSX I had ever seen before I bought mine was Kermit Weeks car, parked by his first hangar/museum in Homestead, Florida back in 91, and when I saw it, I said at the time it was the most beautiful machine I had ever seen. I still think that. I never expected to own one.
I am also a list member on NSX Prime, but I can't really afford to play in that league. VG's, modifying the brake pedals and tweaking the MKIII is more my style.
Although come to think of it, I have been doing some low-cost mods to the NSX - http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/NSX%20mods.html
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Richard Pike
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:19 am Post subject: Heel brakes or ??? |
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would it be possible to put an extension on the flap handle to
give it a more advantageous reach?
-and BTW, how many xtras had it there?>>
Robert,
the on ly advantage would be to make it long enough to operate right handed
and that would be too unweildy to live with.
How Many?. Kolbs had a chequered career here. The old design was bought and
put through the `approval system`, which is quite expensive and time
consuming by a company which later decided to concentrate on weightshift
designs. There was a gap and then along came the present distributor who
bought the dealership with all the approval work already done. He imported a
small number of Xtras which are all I believe 4 strokes while the previous
companies sales were powered by 582`s. I assume that the Xtras all have the
flap handle like mine, the previous model does not. I doubt if there are 20
Kolbs here altogether although the Firestar has been offered here as we have
adopted a new very light weight category and there are I believe no other
fixed wing designs here which comply.
Don`t really understand Denis`s comment about the toe brakes. I have no
knowledge of a redesign being asked for here and unless that was so the
dealer would merely have supplied the kits as delivered from the US.
Certainly I had to wait until the kit was unloaded from the boat before I
could collect mine and nothing was changed. I dont think I still have the
plans around to check.
Pat
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:19 am Post subject: Heel brakes or ??? |
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Pat/all
I have never seen that variation of flap handle. My flap handle is head high and works well. Is that low handle a British modification?
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:36 am Post subject: Re: Heel brakes or ??? |
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I made toe brakes for my Cables... But the pressure was too much on the Rudder, so I scrapped the whole idea...
And I made Heel Brakes..... I didn't like how low they were,
So I made some extensions that are easy to push....
I'll also put a picture of my Emergency brake set-up
that works with Cable Brakes....
One in the "Stowed" position... and one "Applied"
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Gotta Fly...
Mike & "Jaz" the Flying Dog in MN
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JP- KMA !
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pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com Guest
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Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 2:14 am Post subject: Heel brakes or ??? |
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Old Kolb did the M3 - what some now call the classic (not the extra). New
Kolb
did the M3Xtra >>
Hi Dennis,
That sounds sense. It looks as though the new boys on the block wanted
something different from the old design and reincorporated the toe brakes
which had previously been rejected and threw in the flap handle for good
measure.
Thanks for clearing it up
Cheers
Pat
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Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 2:42 am Post subject: Heel brakes or ??? |
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Is that low handle a British modification? >>
Short answer Rick "No".
Built as per plans from the kit which I collected more or less straight from the boat.
Pat
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