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				I am doing maintenance on the nose fork . I can't get the fork off the  
 spindle. It is very tight . Help!!!
 
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      1. 06:11 AM - Re: AFM RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI?   
  (orchidman)
      2. 08:37 AM - Re: AFM RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI?  (Don  
  McDonald)
      3. 08:43 AM - Re: AFM RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI?  (Don  
  McDonald)
      4. 01:24 PM - AFS RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI?   (RobHickman(at)aol.com 
  )
      5. 01:29 PM - Re: AFS RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI?  (Michael  
  Wellenzohn)
      6. 02:54 PM - Re: AFS RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI?  (William  
  Curtis)
      7. 04:26 PM - Re: AFS RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI?  (RobHickman(at)aol.com 
  )
 
  ________________________________  Message 1   
  _____________________________________
  Time: 06:11:56 AM PST US
  Subject: Re: AFM RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI?
  From: "orchidman" <gary(at)wingscc.com>
 
  wcurtis(at)nerv10.com wrote:
 > Gary,
 >
 > Yup, I'm confuse by the question andthink I missed your point again.
 >
 > AFS provides for RPM input on PINs 16,31 &32 with the included mag  
 > sensor--I
  wired that. AFS also provide for RPM indication with Electronic  
  Ignition on pin
  33 --so I wired that also. This gives me the option of which device,  
  mag or
  Electronic Ignition to get the RPM indicaton from.
 >
 > William
 >
 
  I think I see what you are also trying to say.  You will go into  
  setup and tell
  it which source you want?  I don't think we can display 2 sources at  
  the same
  time, can we?  Have not looked.  And if you switch off the LSI as in  
  a mag check,
  with LSI selected in setup, will you get any RPM reading?
  While I loose some redundancy and a backup option, I went with what  
  I think is
  a simpler solution and just went with the single source.
  If I lost RPM's at run-up, it would be back to the hanger, but I  
  have flown the
  plane enough now that if I lost it on TO or enroute, I know I would  
  be able to
  land uneventfully.
 
  --------
  Gary Blankenbiller
  RV10 - # 40674
  (N2GB Flying)
  Read this topic online here:
 
  http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 68319#268319
  ________________________________  Message 2   
  _____________________________________
  Time: 08:37:25 AM PST US
  From: Don McDonald <building_partner(at)yahoo.com>
  Subject: Re: AFM RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI?
 
  Yes, I added the wire to that pin... that was the easy part.... then  
  AFS to
  ld me I needed to install a 10k ohm resistor in series, and run a  
  leg to gr
  ound. did that. still nothing.
  So apparently all you did was run the wire from LS #6 to AFS 33?
  Sure wish it had been that easy for me.
  Don McDonald
 
  --- On Fri, 10/16/09, William Curtis <wcurtis(at)nerv10.com> wrote:
  From: William Curtis <wcurtis(at)nerv10.com>
  Subject: Re: AFM RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI?
  Even though AFS has a provision electronic ignition tach, the  
  harness that
  come with the AFS does NOT include a pin or wire for for it.- You  
  have to
  add this additional wire if you want RPM indication from the  
  electronic ig
  nition on the AFS.- Did you add this additional wire from the LS  
  input co
  nnector pin 6 to the AFS EM harness pin 33?
  -
  See page 4:
  http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/90Electrical/RV10WireBookAll.pdf
  -
  -
  William
  http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/
  On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Don McDonald <building_partner(at)yahoo.com 
  >
  wrote:
  Jim, I tried everything to get my Lightspeed to talk to my AFS....  
  with no
  success.- Robs people were great, but still nothing.--I have a backup
  Vans tach that I had to hook up using the cable and such out of the  
  back o
  f the motor.- What did you do to get it to work.- Gotta be-specific h
  ere... Not at the hanger, so I can't-cite pin numbers... hopefully  
  you ca
  n...-- Sure would be nice to get it to work,-
 
  --- On Thu, 10/15/09, Jim <jim(at)combsfive.com> wrote:
  From: Jim <jim(at)combsfive.com>
  Subject: Re: AFM RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI?
  Have the same configuration Lightspeed on the left and magneto on  
  the right
  .- I wired the AFS tach to the lightspeed ignition.
 
  Jim C
  =0A=0A=0A
 
  ________________________________  Message 3   
  _____________________________________
  Time: 08:43:21 AM PST US
  From: Don McDonald <building_partner(at)yahoo.com>
  Subject: Re: AFM RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI?
 
  Sorry Jim, I forgot to sign my email.... it was me who had the  
  questions on
  the LSE/AFS tach hook up.- Where are you located?
  Don McDonald
  --- On Fri, 10/16/09, Jim <jim(at)combsfive.com> wrote:
  From: Jim <jim(at)combsfive.com>
  Subject: Re: AFM RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI?
  Michael,
 
  I will swing by the hanger today and give you more details.
 
  Jim C
 
  Do Not Archive
 
  ---------------------------------------------------------------------
  Jim, I tried everything to get my Lightspeed to talk to my AFS....  
  with no
  success.- Robs people were great, but still nothing.--I have a backup
  Vans tach that I had to hook up using the cable and such out of the  
  back o
  f the motor.- What did you do to get it to work.- Gotta be-specific h
  ere... Not at the hanger, so I can't-cite pin numbers... hopefully  
  you ca
  n...-- Sure would be nice to get it to work,-
 
  --- On Thu, 10/15/09, Jim <jim(at)combsfive.com> wrote:
  From: Jim <jim(at)combsfive.com>
  Subject: Re: AFM RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI?
  Have the same configuration Lightspeed on the left and magneto on the
  right.- I wired the AFS tach to the lightspeed ignition.
 
  Jim C
 
  Do Not Archive
 
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  <rv-10(at)wellenzohn.net>
 
  Hi there,
  I was wondering if you did connect the AFS RPM sensor on the magnet  
  or the
  LS ignition, or is it even possible to wire both and choose via  
  software
  where the signal comes from.
 
  Thanks
  Michael
 
  --------
  RV-10 builder (avionics, wiring)
  #511
  Read this topic online here:
 
  http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 68115#268115
  =0A=0A=0A
 
  ________________________________  Message 4   
  _____________________________________
  Time: 01:24:35 PM PST US
  From: RobHickman(at)aol.com
  Subject: AFS RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI?
  In a message dated 10/16/2009 6:24:10 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
  wcurtis(at)nerv10.com writes:
 
  AFS provides for RPM input on PINs 16,31 & 32 with the included  mag
  sensor--I wired that.  AFS also provide for RPM indication with   
  Electronic
  Ignition on pin 33 --so I wired that also.  This gives me the   
  option of which
 
  device, mag or Electronic Ignition to get the RPM indicaton  from.
 
  William
  You should only connect 1 RPM input (MAG or Electronic) If you  have  
  one
  mag and one electronic you should use only the MAG input.  As  long  
  as the mag
 
  is still turning you will get displayed RPM even when it is  off.
 
  You need to disconnect pin 33 or it will not work properly.
 
  Rob Hickman
  Advanced Flight Systems
  ________________________________  Message 5   
  _____________________________________
  Time: 01:29:59 PM PST US
  Subject: Re: AFS RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI?
  From: "Michael Wellenzohn" <rv-10(at)wellenzohn.net>
  Thank you Rob that was exactly the answer and explanation that I  
  needed.
 
  Michael
 
  --------
  RV-10 builder (avionics, wiring)
  #511
  Read this topic online here:
 
  http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 68340#268340
  ________________________________  Message 6   
  _____________________________________
  Time: 02:54:50 PM PST US
  Subject: Re: AFS RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI?
  From: William Curtis <wcurtis(at)nerv10.com>
 
  I was hoping the software would allow me to alternatively select.   
  Since I
  want this option in the future, I will install an in-line switch to  
  to pin
  33 for now.
 
  William
 
  On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 4:22 PM, <RobHickman(at)aol.com> wrote:
 
 > In a message dated 10/16/2009 6:24:10 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
 > wcurtis(at)nerv10.com writes:
 >
 > AFS provides for RPM input on PINs 16,31 & 32 with the included mag
 > sensor--I wired that.  AFS also provide for RPM indication with  
 > Electronic
 > Ignition on pin 33 --so I wired that also.  This gives me the  
 > option of
 > which device, mag or Electronic Ignition to get the RPM indicaton  
 > from.
 > William
 > You should only connect 1 RPM input (MAG or Electronic) If you have  
 > one mag
 > and one electronic you should use only the MAG input.  As long as  
 > the mag is
 > still turning you will get displayed RPM even when it is off.
 >
 > You need to disconnect pin 33 or it will not work properly.
 >
 > Rob Hickman
 > Advanced Flight Systems
 
  ________________________________  Message 7   
  _____________________________________
  Time: 04:26:16 PM PST US
  From: RobHickman(at)aol.com
  Subject: Re: AFS RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI?
 
  You do not want or need a switch.  If later on you decide to add a 6
  Cylinder PMAG you will need to disconnect the RPM sensor and then  
  you will
  connect the Electronic input to only the PMAG, and yes the PMAG will  
  drive the
 
  RPM display even when it is off for your light speed side.  We do  
  not want  a
  wire connected to Pin 33 and floating at the switch acting like a big
  antenna,   you will get noise on your RPM display if you do  this.
 
  In my airplanes I have the following:
 
  RV-4
  1 Slick Mag
  1 PMAG
  The RPM input is tied from the PMAG to the Electronic RPM input Pin   
  33
 
  RV-10
 
  1 Slick Mag
  1 LightSpeed
  The RPM input is tied from our RPM sensor in the Mag to RPM input   
  Pin 32
 
  In both cases the RPM display works perfect on RIGHT / LEFT / and   
  BOTH
  Call me on my cell if you need further assistance.
 
  (503) 701-5042
 
  Rob Hickman
 
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