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				 Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 6:00 am    Post subject: Airing up the tires through the wheel pants. | 
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				My Wheel pants have been installed on my airplane for less than a year and I am already finding the disadvantage of checking/ filling the air in the tires.  I am sure there has been discussion of putting holes in the wheel pants for access to the valve stem.  Does anyone have any photos on their building sites of where to put these holes, how big, and what if anything is used to plug the holes?  I would appreciate any feedback on this simple thing.  
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				 Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 6:21 am    Post subject: Airing up the tires through the wheel pants. | 
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				Tim , unless you've changed your tubes to 90 degree stems, I think you're stuck with the aggravation.  I've converted my wheels to take the 90 degree tubes, but am far from using them.
  Linn
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  N616TB wrote: [quote]                 <![endif]-->       <![endif]-->      
 My Wheel pants have been installed on my airplane for less than a year and I am already finding the disadvantage of checking/ filling the air in the tires.  I am sure there has been discussion of putting holes in the wheel pants for access to the valve stem.  Does anyone have any photos on their building sites of where to put these holes, how big, and what if anything is used to plug the holes?  I would appreciate any feedback on this simple thing.   
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				 Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 6:35 am    Post subject: Airing up the tires through the wheel pants. | 
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				I am not sure I follow.  My stems point straight away from the tire, does that mean I have the 90 degree stems you are referring to?  
      
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 Tim , unless you've changed your tubes to 90 degree stems, I think you're stuck with the aggravation.  I've converted my wheels to take the 90 degree tubes, but am far from using them.
  Linn
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 My Wheel pants have been installed on my airplane for less than a year and I am already finding the disadvantage of checking/ filling the air in the tires.  I am sure there has been discussion of putting holes in the wheel pants for access to the valve stem.  Does anyone have any photos on their building sites of where to put these holes, how big, and what if anything is used to plug the holes?  I would appreciate any feedback on this simple thing.  
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				 Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 6:49 am    Post subject: Airing up the tires through the wheel pants. | 
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				I purchased little snap in plugs at Home Depot.  They carry sizes ranging from 1/4" to over 1".  I think mine are  7/8".  The plugs come in plastic and polished (stainless?) steel. I got the  steel ones.  Aircraft Spruce also carries little hinged doors if you want  to spend 20 bucks instead of $2.
   
  To locate the holes, all I did was measure the  distance from the axle of the wheel to the center of the valve stem, then  drilled a 7/8" hole that distance from the hole in the wheelpant where the bolt  goes into the axle nut.  It was probably 2" or 2 1/4", but don't trust that  measurement - measure for yourself.
   
  On mine, the hole is in the front half of the  wheelpant, but I'm not sure that's important.
   
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				 Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 6:55 am    Post subject: Airing up the tires through the wheel pants. | 
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				If the stem points out the side, parallel to the axel, then you have the 90 degree stem, and all is cool.  If the valve stem points roughly in the direction of the axle nut, it is a straight stem.  If you have the 90 degree stem, make a hole ..... I like the area under the wheel pant nut ..... so that the hole allows a straight connection to the valve stem.  You'll need to go to someplace like a truck tire store to get a straight extension.  Slip this through the hole. screw it onto the valve stem, and air up the tire.  I do not put X pounds in the tire.  I inflate until the outside ring of tread lifts off the ground.  I was taught this by a very experienced friend.  I get good, even, wear on my tires with this method.  May not work with the Van's gear though .... but I'll find out when the time comes.  Oh, don't make the hole very big .... just enough to get the extender through.  Fill the hole with a stainless steel plug ..... but straighten all but about 3 or 4 of the tangs, otherwise it'll eat up the edges of the hole in the wheel pant.  Oh yeah ..... paint a stripe if white paint on the sidewall of the tire ..... in the inside so you can see it as you pull the airplane forward ....... pointing at the stem ...... so when it's vertical, the stem should be pointing at the hole in the sheel pant.
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 I am not sure I follow.  My stems point straight away from the tire, does that mean I have the 90 degree stems you are referring to?   
        
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 From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Linn Walters
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 Tim , unless you've changed your tubes to 90 degree stems, I think you're stuck with the aggravation.  I've converted my wheels to take the 90 degree tubes, but am far from using them.
  Linn
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  N616TB wrote:    
 My Wheel pants have been installed on my airplane for less than a year and I am already finding the disadvantage of checking/ filling the air in the tires.  I am sure there has been discussion of putting holes in the wheel pants for access to the valve stem.  Does anyone have any photos on their building sites of where to put these holes, how big, and what if anything is used to plug the holes?  I would appreciate any feedback on this simple thing.   
 Thanks   
        
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 Frankston, Texas   
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				 Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 6:59 am    Post subject: Airing up the tires through the wheel pants. | 
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				Yes, you have the 90 degree stems. I installed camloc spring loaded doors.
 
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  Subject: RE: Airing up the tires through the wheel pants.
  To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
  Date: Sunday, November 1, 2009, 8:30 AM
  
  
  
   
   
  
  
  
  
  
  
   
  
  
  
  I am not sure I follow. 
  My stems point straight away from the
  tire, does that mean I have the 90 degree stems you are
  referring to? 
  
     
  
  
  
  Tim Bryan 
  
  BT Systems 
  
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  Subject: Re: Airing up the tires through
  the wheel pants. 
  
  
  
  
  
     
  
  Tim , unless you've changed your
  tubes to 90 degree stems, I
  think you're stuck with the aggravation.  I've
  converted my wheels to take
  the 90 degree tubes, but am far from using them.
  
  Linn
  
  do not archive.
  
  
  
  N616TB wrote:  
  
  My Wheel pants have been
  installed on my airplane for less than
  a year and I am already finding the disadvantage of
  checking/ filling the air
  in the tires.  I am sure there has been discussion of
  putting holes in the
  wheel pants for access to the valve stem.  Does anyone
  have any photos on
  their building sites of where to put these holes, how big,
  and what if anything
  is used to plug the holes?  I would appreciate any
  feedback on this simple
  thing. 
  
  Thanks 
  
    
  
  
  
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  RV-6 
  
  Frankston, Texas
  
  
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				 Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 8:10 am    Post subject: Airing up the tires through the wheel pants. | 
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				Here is a photo of an RV-8 I saw at Copper State last week:  
    
 http://picasaweb.google.com/marks.robin/CopperStateFlyIn2009#5398538964506041954  
    
 With a door this size I don’t think it matters what type of stem you have however the S/S plug and a 90 degree stem sound like a better idea to me, especially if your pants are already painted.  
    
 Robin  
        
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  Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 6:53 AM
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  Subject: Re: Airing up the tires through the wheel pants.  
   
   
    
 If the stem points out the side, parallel to the axel, then you have the 90 degree stem, and all is cool.  If the valve stem points roughly in the direction of the axle nut, it is a straight stem.  If you have the 90 degree stem, make a hole ..... I like the area under the wheel pant nut ..... so that the hole allows a straight connection to the valve stem.  You'll need to go to someplace like a truck tire store to get a straight extension.  Slip this through the hole. screw it onto the valve stem, and air up the tire.  I do not put X pounds in the tire.  I inflate until the outside ring of tread lifts off the ground.  I was taught this by a very experienced friend.  I get good, even, wear on my tires with this method.  May not work with the Van's gear though .... but I'll find out when the time comes.  Oh, don't make the hole very big .... just enough to get the extender through.  Fill the hole with a stainless steel plug ..... but straighten all but about 3 or 4 of the tangs, otherwise it'll eat up the edges of the hole in the wheel pant.  Oh yeah .... paint a stripe if white paint on the sidewall of the tire ..... in the inside so you can see it as you pull the airplane forward ....... pointing at the stem ..... so when it's vertical, the stem should be pointing at the hole in the sheel pant.
  Linn
  
  
  N616TB wrote:   
 I am not sure I follow.  My stems point straight away from the tire, does that mean I have the 90 degree stems you are referring to?  
      
 Tim Bryan  
 BT Systems  
 The pursuit of happiness is the chase of a lifetime!  
   
          
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  Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 8:17 AM
  To: rv-list(at)matronics.com (rv-list(at)matronics.com)
  Subject: Re: Airing up the tires through the wheel pants.  
   
   
    
 Tim , unless you've changed your tubes to 90 degree stems, I think you're stuck with the aggravation.  I've converted my wheels to take the 90 degree tubes, but am far from using them.
  Linn
  do not archive.
  
  N616TB wrote:   
 My Wheel pants have been installed on my airplane for less than a year and I am already finding the disadvantage of checking/ filling the air in the tires.  I am sure there has been discussion of putting holes in the wheel pants for access to the valve stem.  Does anyone have any photos on their building sites of where to put these holes, how big, and what if anything is used to plug the holes?  I would appreciate any feedback on this simple thing.  
 Thanks  
      
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 RV-6  
 Frankston, Texas  
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				 Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 5:04 pm    Post subject: Airing up the tires through the wheel pants. | 
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				Linn's method works best for me, with one minor change. Harbor Freight 
 has this air chuck:
 http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=41891
 Notice that the business end is straight, not angled. It has a latch to 
 clip it on the stem. If you hacksaw off the latch, it will easily go 
 straight through your new hole in in the pant & you can air the tire 
 without an extension. (The gauge on mine is way off, but that's easy 
 enough to compensate for once you know how much it's off (if you even 
 bother with measuring pressure; some don't.)
 
 I still carry a screw-on extension in my emergency spares bag in the 
 plane, but for airing tires at home the $8 tire chuck is a lot more 
 convenient.
 
 Charlie
 
 Linn Walters wrote:
  	  | Quote: | 	 		   If the stem points out the side, parallel to the axel, then you have 
  the 90 degree stem, and all is cool.  If the valve stem points roughly 
  in the direction of the axle nut, it is a straight stem.  If you have 
  the 90 degree stem, make a hole ..... I like the area under the wheel 
  pant nut ..... so that the hole allows a straight connection to the 
  valve stem.  You'll need to go to someplace like a truck tire store to 
  get a straight extension.  Slip this through the hole. screw it onto 
  the valve stem, and air up the tire.  I do not put X pounds in the 
  tire.  I inflate until the outside ring of tread lifts off the 
  ground.  I was taught this by a very experienced friend.  I get good, 
  even, wear on my tires with this method.  May not work with the Van's 
  gear though ..... but I'll find out when the time comes.  Oh, don't 
  make the hole very big .... just enough to get the extender through.  
  Fill the hole with a stainless steel plug ..... but straighten all but 
  about 3 or 4 of the tangs, otherwise it'll eat up the edges of the 
  hole in the wheel pant.  Oh yeah ..... paint a stripe if white paint 
  on the sidewall of the tire ..... in the inside so you can see it as 
  you pull the airplane forward ....... pointing at the stem ...... so 
  when it's vertical, the stem should be pointing at the hole in the 
  sheel pant.
  Linn
  N616TB wrote:
 >
 > I am not sure I follow.  My stems point straight away from the tire, 
 > does that mean I have the 90 degree stems you are referring to?
 >
 >  
 >
 > *Tim Bryan*
 >
 > *BT Systems*
 >
 > /The pursuit of happiness is the chase of a lifetime!/
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 >  
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 > *From:* owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com 
 > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Linn Walters
 > *Sent:* Sunday, November 01, 2009 8:17 AM
 > *To:* rv-list(at)matronics.com
 > *Subject:* Re: Airing up the tires through the wheel pants.
 >
 >  
 >
 > Tim , unless you've changed your tubes to 90 degree stems, I think 
 > you're stuck with the aggravation.  I've converted my wheels to take 
 > the 90 degree tubes, but am far from using them.
 > Linn
 > do not archive.
 >
 > N616TB wrote:
 >
 > My Wheel pants have been installed on my airplane for less than a 
 > year and I am already finding the disadvantage of checking/ filling 
 > the air in the tires.  I am sure there has been discussion of putting 
 > holes in the wheel pants for access to the valve stem.  Does anyone 
 > have any photos on their building sites of where to put these holes, 
 > how big, and what if anything is used to plug the holes?  I would 
 > appreciate any feedback on this simple thing.
 >
 > Thanks
 >
 >  
 >
 > *Tim Bryan*
 >
 > *RV-6*
 >
 > *Frankston, Texas*
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				 Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 5:50 am    Post subject: Airing up the tires through the wheel pants. | 
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				Thanks Everyone for the responses about the tires.  I plan to drill a hole
 in my pants to accept my placing an extension through to air them up as
 others have suggested.  I don't think I will put a door in as I just don't
 feel like messing with the fiberglass again.
 
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				 Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:12 am    Post subject: Airing up the tires through the wheel pants. | 
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				I found an easy way to spot the exact place to drill the hole ... after drilling the main gear l long time ago by 'blind luck' and measuring .. I recently decided I needed to drill the nose wheel which is much tighter and harder to spot.  
     
  Just take off the pants, get a cheap laser pointer and mount it 4-5' away from the wheel on a small stand (I taped mine to a jack stand and taped it 'on').  Turn the wheel so that the LEVEL laser is pointing at the air valve where you want the hole in the pants... then put the pants back on.  The laser will still be pointing to the exact spot where the valve is.  Just drill the hole. Don't know why I didn't think of it before.
     
   I found the metal plugs at Home Depot.
   
  Just an opinion.
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 Thanks Everyone for the responses about the tires.  I plan to drill a hole
 in my pants to accept my placing an extension through to air them up as
 others have suggested.  I don't think I will put a door in as I just don't
   feel like messing with the fiberglass again.
 
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				 Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 8:10 am    Post subject: Airing up the tires through the wheel pants. | 
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				Great Idea.  I need one of those laser pointers anyway for presentations I occasionally do.  
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 I found an easy way to spot the exact place to drill the hole ... after drilling the main gear l long time ago by 'blind luck' and measuring .. I recently decided I needed to drill the nose wheel which is much tighter and harder to spot.    
     
    
     
 Just take off the pants, get a cheap laser pointer and mount it 4-5' away from the wheel on a small stand (I taped mine to a jack stand and taped it 'on').  Turn the wheel so that the LEVEL laser is pointing at the air valve where you want the hole in the pants... then put the pants back on.  The laser will still be pointing to the exact spot where the valve is.  Just drill the hole. Don't know why I didn't think of it before.  
     
    
     
  I found the metal plugs at Home Depot.  
     
    
     
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  feel like messing with the fiberglass again.
  
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				 Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 8:11 am    Post subject: Airing up the tires through the wheel pants. | 
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				Great idea David. I did something similar but with  just a pencil mounted close to the wheel fairing. It worked but the laser can be  mounted further away and still give an exact point to drill.
   
  For the extension from the tube stem, a 6 inch  flexible rubber extension can be purchased at stores supplying trucks. I found  the flexible extension easier to get started on the valve stem threads than the  ridget metal extension. 
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				 Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 8:22 am    Post subject: Airing up the tires through the wheel pants. | 
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				Excellent solution David!!!  Amazing how hard it seems to come up with 
 simple solutions.  Thanks for the tip.
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  	  | Quote: | 	 		   I found an easy way to spot the exact place to drill the hole ... after 
  drilling the main gear l long time ago by 'blind luck' and measuring .. 
  I recently decided I needed to drill the nose wheel which is much 
  tighter and harder to spot. 
   
  Just take off the pants, get a cheap laser pointer and mount it 4-5' 
  away from the wheel on a small stand (I taped mine to a jack stand and 
  taped it 'on').  Turn the wheel so that the LEVEL laser is pointing at 
  the air valve where you want the hole in the pants... then put the pants 
  back on.  The laser will still be pointing to the exact spot where the 
  valve is.  Just drill the hole. Don't know why I didn't think of it before.
   
   I found the metal plugs at Home Depot.
   
  Just an opinion.
  
  David W. Schaefer
  RV-6A N142DS  "Nerdgasm"
  TMX-IO360 Dual-LightSpeed Plasma IIIs, Hartzell Blended Airfoil, GRT HX EFIS
  
  
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				 Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:46 am    Post subject: Airing up the tires through the wheel pants. | 
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				To answer your question it is very simple, you need an access hole (square or round) 
  and a plug or cover. You just have to align it with the valve stem. You'll use an air-chuck 
  with an extension. The most common access is round and one of those SNAP-IN 
  BUTTON COVERS or PLUGS (or hole plugs), in metal or plastic/nylon.
   
  http://www.surplussales.com/MetalPlugs/MetalHolePlugs.html
   
  http://www.widgetco.com/hole-plugs
   
  http://www.surplussales.com/Rubber-Plastic/Plastic-1.html[/url]
   
  You need to figure out what air tool you will use, for the geometry.
   
  [url=http://www.drillspot.com/products/41080/Dynaquip_AC45_Straight_Body_Air_Chuck]http://www.drillspot.com/products/41080/Dynaquip_AC45_Straight_Body_Air_Chuck
  (this is best, with a length of brass tube as needed)
   
  http://www.savinglots.com/lotprod.asp?item=JL5010N
  (takes up a little more room with the side fitting)
   
  Just a stripe of white paint where the air-stem is so you can align it with the 
  hole in the wheel pants will make it easier. Also to check the air-pressure, 
  you can use the same air-check to a quick disconnect. Than you just plug 
  in the AIR-GAGE into the quick disconnect. So you will need the following:
   
  -Hole Plug
  -Straight Air-Chuck
  -Female quick disconnect
  -Air-Gage with male quick disconnect
  -Small length of brass tube with 1/4" NFPT (threaded ends)
  (you can bend the brass pipe slightly than cut, than thread if you want a slight angle)
  (if you use an angle or dual air-chuck you will need at least a 1.25" hole)
   
  My solution was to use good quality tubes, tires and nitrogen, so I don't have 
  to deal with checking or filling them as often. However having access is a good 
  idea. However to get half back half  of my wheel pants off is only a handful of 
  Philips screws; it takes about a minute to remove or install. So I decided against it.
   
  Others make a square hole with a small hinged cover to make LOTS of room 
  so you can put in any old big dual chuck, with out having the tire rotated the tire 
  just the right spot.
   
   
  >My Wheel pants have been installed on my airplane for less than a year and I
  	  | Quote: | 	 		  am already finding the disadvantage of checking/ filling the air in the
 tires.  I am sure there has been discussion of putting holes in the wheel
 pants for access to the valve stem.  Does anyone have any photos on their
 building sites of where to put these holes, how big, and what if anything is
 used to plug the holes?  I would appreciate any feedback on this simple
  >thing.
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				 Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:25 pm    Post subject: Airing up the tires through the wheel pants. | 
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				For filling tires through wheel pants I used
  KM713-16-064    -from aircraft spruce.
                I also needed a tire valve extension
        I got mine from Cleavland tool
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				I had same problem.  I solved it by purchasing  the "Leak Proof" inner tubes from Desser tire and rubber.  I now find that  I loose less than one pound of air per month.  I also went with the  Goodyear custome 3 tire.  No problems over the last 500 hours.
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				 Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:12 am    Post subject: Airing up the tires through the wheel pants. | 
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				I drilled I believe a 1 inch hole in the side of the wheel pant and used  one of those metal covers that are used one the top of a Piper Cherokee wing to  cover the strut schrader valve. Then just get a valve core extension screw it in  and you are good to go. Worked fine.
   
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  [quote]   I had same problem.  I solved it by    purchasing the "Leak Proof" inner tubes from Desser tire and rubber.  I    now find that I loose less than one pound of air per month.  I also went    with the Goodyear custome 3 tire.  No problems over the last 500    hours.
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				 Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:04 pm    Post subject: Airing up the tires through the wheel pants. | 
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				So how do you deal with getting the valve stem cap on and off with only a
 one inch hole? Go up from the sides or do you just not use a cap?
 
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				bill, Use a nut driver to reach in and unscrew the cap/replace, then I screw 
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				Hi Bill,
 I used a short length of plastic (polyethylene) tubing with ID slightly less 
 than the OD of he cap. I split it to about a half inch from the end. I 
 pushed it onto the cap. There was enough friction to unscrew and hold the 
 cap. After filling the tire, I re-installed the cap and withdrew the tube. 
 Worked well for three years.
 
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