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frans(at)paardnatuurlijk.
Guest

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 4:24 am Post subject: PH-DIY

Hi fellow builders,



After numerous inquiries for pictures of our almost finished bird, I

decided to send them via the list. (The gallery didn't work).



Pictures are preliminary, as we are sure to produce better ones when we

finally get some sunshine again.



Apart from that it is "just another Europa", there are a few things

worth noticing on this airplane:

- It is a "stealth" high top. It has nor the aquarium style front

window, nor the blown up upper cowling (not intended to insult anyone

with a different taste of course!). This is "halfway between mod 64A and

mod 64B".

- We did some rigorous things with the cooling duct. We used the

standard radiators, but with a diffuser and expansion area, and a

movable cowl flap. On the pictures the cowl flap is closed.

- On the nose of the cowling there are two naca ducts with a shroud

exactly aimed at the cylinders, to get a stream of air from top of the

engine downwards,  instead of a stream of air from the front to

downwards. The front inlets are intended to be used by landing lights,

but we will leave them open until we have done some tests in flight.

- The nose wheel shaft is extended by 1 inch to allow more prop clearance.

- Note the wing fairings, they are designed by Fred Klein, and enhance

the look of the airplane and most likely improve the air stream.

- The high top mod allows for a larger instrument panel. We decided to

abandon the standard instrument module completely and built our own. It

is in fact hardly larger than the standard Europa module, but because it

doesn't feature all these space wasting edges and curves, there is much

more panel space available.

- We have harnesses that are fixed to a (reinforced!) area on the upper

fuselage. This will eliminate the risk of spinal compression.



On one picture: the proud builders together with their airplane.

Although I'm the one communicating via this list, I should point out

that I actually built the airplane together with my wife. She has a PPL

to, and knows as much about airplanes as I do. As you can expect, we

were always reviewing each others building work, to insure the best

quality of work.

If the gallery works again, we will upload some pictures of the build

process.



Oh, and we are aware of the acronym DIY in English speaking countries.

We deliberately selected this registration! 



The airplane has a Rotax 914 intercooler with a Woodcomp SR3000W/2 prop.

Weight is still unknown but it is for sure not going to win the light

weight contest. 



Frans

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Brian Davies

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 124
Location: uk

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:02 am Post subject: PH-DIY

Looks great Frans!  How about an article for the Europa Flyer once it has

flown?  



Brian 



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frans(at)paardnatuurlijk.
Guest

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:16 am Post subject: PH-DIY

Brian Davies wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 Looks great Frans!  How about an article for the Europa Flyer once it has


	


I'm sure we will let you all know when it has flown. If you think

anything we have to say is worth for an article, let us know.



Frans

ptag.dev(at)tiscali.co.uk
Guest

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:45 am Post subject: PH-DIY

Hi! Frans.

Thanks for the pictures. Looks good to me ....and Ilona the wife! But of

course we met at Texel recently ?

Regards

Bob Harrison.



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kheindl(at)msn.com
Guest

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:59 am Post subject: PH-DIY

Frans C 

 A very professional and innovative (and fast) build indeed. 

 I notice that there does not seem to be a guard over the interior door handle. It is worthwhile having. One or two early Europas lost a door.

 Cheers C   Karl

 	  Quote: 	
		   Date: Fri C 13 Nov 2009 15:16:37 +0100

 From: frans(at)paardnatuurlijk.nl

 To: europa-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: PH-DIY

 --> Europa-List message posted by: Frans Veldman <frans(at)paardnatuurlijk.nl>

 Brian Davies wrote:

 > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Brian Davies" <bdavies(at)dircon.co.uk>

 > 

 > Looks great Frans! How about an article for the Europa Flyer once it has

 I'm sure we will let you all know when it has flown. If you think

 anything we have to say is worth for an article C let us know.

 Frans

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rampil

Joined: 04 May 2007
Posts: 870

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:03 am Post subject: Re: PH-DIY

Hi Frans,



Lovely bird(s)!

May they fly well together!

Congratulations,



Ira

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grahamsingleton(at)btinte
Guest

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:48 am Post subject: PH-DIY

Frans

Looks gorgeous, especially the wing roots. Worth a few knots probably

Graham



Frans Veldman wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   Hi fellow builders,



 After numerous inquiries for pictures of our almost finished bird, I

 decided to send them via the list. (The gallery didn't work).

   

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peterz(at)zutrasoft.com
Guest

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:09 am Post subject: PH-DIY

Great looking bird Frans!



In addition to what others have already mentioned, I'll offer my appreciation of your very nice job on your shoulder-width mod.  I see you modified the doors  to meet the new seal profile properly. I'd be interested in any info on the door frame mod and it's impact (if any) on the shoot-bolt mechaism.

 

Cheers & thx for posting the pics!

Pete

A239



On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 7:21 AM, Frans Veldman <frans(at)paardnatuurlijk.nl (frans(at)paardnatuurlijk.nl)> wrote:

 [quote]Hi fellow builders,

 

 After numerous inquiries for pictures of our almost finished bird, I

 decided to send them via the list. (The gallery didn't work).

 

 Pictures are preliminary, as we are sure to produce better ones when we

 finally get some sunshine again.

 

 Apart from that it is "just another Europa", there are a few things

 worth noticing on this airplane:

 - It is a "stealth" high top. It has nor the aquarium style front

 window, nor the blown up upper cowling (not intended to insult anyone

 with a different taste of course!). This is "halfway between mod 64A and

 mod 64B".

 - We did some rigorous things with the cooling duct. We used the

 standard radiators, but with a diffuser and expansion area, and a

 movable cowl flap. On the pictures the cowl flap is closed.

 - On the nose of the cowling there are two naca ducts with a shroud

 exactly aimed at the cylinders, to get a stream of air from top of the

 engine downwards,  instead of a stream of air from the front to

 downwards. The front inlets are intended to be used by landing lights,

 but we will leave them open until we have done some tests in flight.

 - The nose wheel shaft is extended by 1 inch to allow more prop clearance.

 - Note the wing fairings, they are designed by Fred Klein, and enhance

 the look of the airplane and most likely improve the air stream.

 - The high top mod allows for a larger instrument panel. We decided to

 abandon the standard instrument module completely and built our own. It

 is in fact hardly larger than the standard Europa module, but because it

 doesn't feature all these space wasting edges and curves, there is much

 more panel space available.

 - We have harnesses that are fixed to a (reinforced!) area on the upper

 fuselage. This will eliminate the risk of spinal compression.

 

 On one picture: the proud builders together with their airplane.

 Although I'm the one communicating via this list, I should point out

 that I actually built the airplane together with my wife. She has a PPL

 to, and knows as much about airplanes as I do. As you can expect, we

 were always reviewing each others building work, to insure the best

 quality of work.

 If the gallery works again, we will upload some pictures of the build

 process.

 

 Oh, and we are aware of the acronym DIY in English speaking countries.

 We deliberately selected this registration! 

 

 The airplane has a Rotax 914 intercooler with a Woodcomp SR3000W/2 prop.

 Weight is still unknown but it is for sure not going to win the light

 weight contest. 

 

 Frans

 [b]

frans(at)paardnatuurlijk.
Guest

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:33 am Post subject: PH-DIY

Peter Zutrauen wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   Great looking bird Frans!

 

 In addition to what others have already mentioned, I'll offer my

 appreciation of your very nice job on your shoulder-width mod.


	


Well, eh, to be honest, I got these doors and fuselage as is. I believe

it became "standard" some time ago, most likely before my kit was

produced. 



Frans

frans(at)paardnatuurlijk.
Guest

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:46 am Post subject: PH-DIY

Hi everyone,



We just put some pictures of the build on our website, to give you an

impression on how much fun we had.



See:

www.privatepilots.nl/europa/building.htm



Frans

hurstkr(at)redzone.com.au
Guest

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 4:59 pm Post subject: PH-DIY

Very well done Frans.  If mine ever looks as nice, I will be more than 

happy.



Hope all goes well with your test flying as I'm sure it will indeed.



Cheers from Oz



Kingsley



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raimo.toivio(at)rwm.fi
Guest

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:45 am Post subject: PH-DIY

Congratulations Ilona and Frans!



What a wonderful life experience to build a plane together and doing it in the farmer´s house surrounded by rich nature and horses.



I noticed you have changed the harness upper attachment point AND the harness type for quick release.

That is a good investment for safety.



Raimo OH-XRT

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frans(at)paardnatuurlijk.
Guest

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 8:13 am Post subject: PH-DIY

Raimo Toivio wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 What a wonderful life experience to build a plane together and doing it in the farmer´s house surrounded by rich nature and horses.


	


It is! 



 	  Quote: 	
		   I noticed you have changed the harness upper attachment point AND the harness type for quick release.

 That is a good investment for safety.


	


That's why we changed it!

It consists of two parts, both sold by Aircraft Spruce:

http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/harness3b.php

http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/seatbelt1a.php



Apart from that it eliminates the risk of spinal compression, it is also

a "quick release" type, where all four parts disconnect if you want to

get out. We tested the original harness, but we found that if we would

ever end up inverted, or would have to ditch, it would be possible to get

entangled in it. The new harness has no loops or anything

that can trap you when you are in a disoriented situation and are in a

hurry to get out.



About the connection point: the door flange is already quite strong by

itself, and its shape makes it convenient to attach the harness. We

reinforced the area with a anluminium angle bracket, folding around the

flange so it "grips" from behind the flange. We further reinforced the

area with a few layers of bid. Of course if the situation is violent

enough something will break, but this applies to the other (original)

attachment points as well.



If anyone is interested in a set of original Europa harnesses, never

used except for test fitting, let me know.



Frans

raimo.toivio(at)rwm.fi
Guest

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 9:04 am Post subject: PH-DIY

"We tested the original harness, but we found that if we would

ever end up inverted, or would have to ditch, it would be possible to get

entangled in it. The new harness has no loops or anything

that can trap you when you are in a disoriented situation and are in a

hurry to get out."



Frans,



That is something I have declared at least two times before.

Also, the task to get you out from the wreck is much easier for rescuer if unlooped belts...

You are only one (w me) I know who has reacted because of this potential risk.



Raimo OH-XRT



"If anyone is interested in a set of original Europa harnesses, never

used except for test fitting, let me know."



- I have an extra free set also but do not recommend for anyone...

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frans(at)paardnatuurlijk.
Guest

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 10:08 am Post subject: PH-DIY

Raimo Toivio wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   "We tested the original harness, but we found that if we would

 ever end up inverted, or would have to ditch, it would be possible to get

 entangled in it. The new harness has no loops or anything

 that can trap you when you are in a disoriented situation and are in a

 hurry to get out."

 

 You are only one (w me) I know who has reacted because of this potential risk.


	


There are more potential risks that could easily be avoided.



What about routing fuel lines through the cabin, so that if there is a

leak the foot bath in front of the seat fills with fuel. Or using a fuel

return line without a one-way valve, so when the line breaks all the

fuel will drain into the fuselage, regardless of the setting of the fuel

selector.



I'm also sceptical about the recommendation to connect the trim directly

to the battery instead of after the master switch. Oh yeah, go ahead and

also connect the stall warner before the master switch, as the manual

suggests. There are probably some more things worth keeping when the

master switch is off. And then, when you need to make an emergency crash

landing, you are sitting in an airplane with fuel behind your back, and

a lot of live wires running over the entire length of the aircraft which

you can't switch off...



Maybe we can assemble a list with safety improvements so everyone can

benefit from it. There are probably some things I have overlooked as

well. I must assume there are more people on this list who are concerned

about safety.



Frans

zwakie

Joined: 03 Aug 2009
Posts: 157

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:23 am Post subject: Re: PH-DIY

Hi Frans and Illona,



As I told you both when I visited you a few weeks ago, you have an absolute beautiful airplaine. The pictures show just part of her beauty for sure!



Please let me know when you're going to take her up the first time, I would love to be around on that main event!



Marcel

frans(at)paardnatuurlijk.
Guest

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:09 am Post subject: PH-DIY

zwakie wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   As I told you both when I visited you a few weeks ago, you have an absolute beautiful airplaine. The pictures show just part of her beauty for sure!


	


Thanks!



 	  Quote: 	
		   Please let me know when you're going to take her up the first time, I would love to be around on that main event!


	


I will let you know. This saturday we will get the mandatory

transponder, ELT, pitot/static tests done and compass calibration. If

there is also someone around to do the mandatory "examination" of the

airplane I might be able to get the airworthyness certificate very soon.

Once the paperwork is done, we will start working on the first flight. 



Frans

kheindl(at)msn.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:22 am Post subject: PH-DIY

  

My starboard tailplane is 5.8 kg. 



 



  



 	  Quote: 	
		   Date: Tue C 24 Nov 2009 16:06:26 +0100

 From: frans(at)paardnatuurlijk.nl

 To: europa-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: Re: PH-DIY

 

 --> Europa-List message posted by: Frans Veldman <frans(at)paardnatuurlijk.nl>

 

 zwakie wrote:

 

 > As I told you both when I visited you a few weeks ago C you have an absolute beautiful airplaine. The pictures show just part of her beauty for sure!

 

 Thanks!

 

 > Please let me know when you're going to take her up the first time C I would love to be around on that main event!

 

 I will let you know. This saturday we will get the mandatory

 transponder C ELT C pitot/static tests done and compass calibration. If

 there is also someone around to do the mandatory "examination" of the

 airplane I might be able to get the airworthyness certificate very soon.

 Once the paperwork is done C we will start working on the first flight. 

 

 Frans> _= Archive Search & Download C 7-Day Browse C Chat C FAQ C

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