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		Kelly McMullen
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 2:10 pm    Post subject: QB Fuel tank issue | 
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				I discovered that one of my fuel tanks has the vent line improperly
 bent in the inboard bay, such that it runs down the middle between the
 two stiffeners, leaving no room for the sending unit float, either in
 front or behind. Email with Vans has suggested trying to loosen the
 nut on the inside to disconnect the vent line, and re-bend it. I think
 this might be possible if I pulled the line out perhaps 8-10". Can
 anyone comment on feasibility, given the need aftewards to maneuver
 the far end back into the clip at the gas cap flange? Obviously all
 operations would have to be done by feel with the amount of fingers
 that can go into sending unit hole and gas cap flange on other end. I
 don't think even a child's hand would go all the way through those
 holes.
  Just another area of total lack of QC on the QB process.
 Kelly
 40866
 QB wings
 
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		john(at)trollingers.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 2:31 pm    Post subject: QB Fuel tank issue | 
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				I pulled my vent line out once all my ribs were in place and re-ran it through the correct holes without any issues.
 
 On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2(at)gmail.com (apilot2(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
  [quote]--> RV10-List message posted by: Kelly McMullen <apilot2(at)gmail.com (apilot2(at)gmail.com)>
   
  I discovered that one of my fuel tanks has the vent line improperly
  bent in the inboard bay, such that it runs down the middle between the
  two stiffeners, leaving no room for the sending unit float, either in
  front or behind. Email with Vans has suggested trying to loosen the
  nut on the inside to disconnect the vent line, and re-bend it. I think
  this might be possible if I pulled the line out perhaps 8-10". Can
  anyone comment on feasibility, given the need aftewards to maneuver
  the far end back into the clip at the gas cap flange? Obviously all
  operations would have to be done by feel with the amount of fingers
  that can go into sending unit hole and gas cap flange on other end. I
  don't think even a child's hand would go all the way through those
  holes.
   Just another area of total lack of QC on the QB process.
  Kelly
  40866
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				 Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 2:32 pm    Post subject: QB Fuel tank issue | 
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				never mind, I did not finish reading, my top was not installed yet.  
 
 On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2(at)gmail.com (apilot2(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
  [quote]--> RV10-List message posted by: Kelly McMullen <apilot2(at)gmail.com (apilot2(at)gmail.com)>
   
  I discovered that one of my fuel tanks has the vent line improperly
  bent in the inboard bay, such that it runs down the middle between the
  two stiffeners, leaving no room for the sending unit float, either in
  front or behind. Email with Vans has suggested trying to loosen the
  nut on the inside to disconnect the vent line, and re-bend it. I think
  this might be possible if I pulled the line out perhaps 8-10". Can
  anyone comment on feasibility, given the need aftewards to maneuver
  the far end back into the clip at the gas cap flange? Obviously all
  operations would have to be done by feel with the amount of fingers
  that can go into sending unit hole and gas cap flange on other end. I
  don't think even a child's hand would go all the way through those
  holes.
   Just another area of total lack of QC on the QB process.
  Kelly
  40866
  QB wings
  
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		evmeg(at)snowcrest.net Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 2:59 pm    Post subject: QB Fuel tank issue | 
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				Get a new sender wire and bend the bugger so that the float runs along 
 parallel with the vent line. 90 degree bend near the shepards hook. It will 
 take some patience to get it right, and it will look like a road map, but 
 your only other answer will involve cutting an inspection hole like the 
 other RV's. You will need a new wire because by the time you get this groovy 
 thing bent up its going to take more wire than the standard deal. Dont cut 
 the wire and put the last little bend in until last...the one that goes 
 through the sender.....
 Cheers..
 Evan
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		jesse(at)saintaviation.co Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 3:39 pm    Post subject: QB Fuel tank issue | 
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				From my experience, you should be able to get the line back through  
 the clip via the fuel filler cap.  My recommendation would be to get  
 someone with fuel tanks still open to try it for you and see if it's  
 doable.
 
 Do not archive.
 
 Jesse Saint
 Saint Aviation
 jesse(at)saintaviation.com
 352-427-0285
 
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 On Nov 26, 2009, at 5:09 PM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2(at)gmail.com> wrote:
 
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  I discovered that one of my fuel tanks has the vent line improperly
  bent in the inboard bay, such that it runs down the middle between the
  two stiffeners, leaving no room for the sending unit float, either in
  front or behind. Email with Vans has suggested trying to loosen the
  nut on the inside to disconnect the vent line, and re-bend it. I think
  this might be possible if I pulled the line out perhaps 8-10". Can
  anyone comment on feasibility, given the need aftewards to maneuver
  the far end back into the clip at the gas cap flange? Obviously all
  operations would have to be done by feel with the amount of fingers
  that can go into sending unit hole and gas cap flange on other end. I
  don't think even a child's hand would go all the way through those
  holes.
  Just another area of total lack of QC on the QB process.
  Kelly
  40866
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		Kelly McMullen
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 5:45 pm    Post subject: QB Fuel tank issue | 
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				Thanks Jesse. Don't know anyone in that phase nearby, but will take
 careful measurements as to how far I would need to pull the line out
 and see how much is on the other end..perhaps borrow a borescope to
 get a real good look at it.
 
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  From my experience, you should be able to get the line back through the clip
  via the fuel filler cap.  My recommendation would be to get someone with
  fuel tanks still open to try it for you and see if it's doable.
 
  Do not archive.
 
  Jesse Saint
  Saint Aviation
  jesse(at)saintaviation.com
  352-427-0285
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Nov 26, 2009, at 5:09 PM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2(at)gmail.com> wrote:
 
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 > I discovered that one of my fuel tanks has the vent line improperly
 > bent in the inboard bay, such that it runs down the middle between the
 > two stiffeners, leaving no room for the sending unit float, either in
 > front or behind. Email with Vans has suggested trying to loosen the
 > nut on the inside to disconnect the vent line, and re-bend it. I think
 > this might be possible if I pulled the line out perhaps 8-10". Can
 > anyone comment on feasibility, given the need aftewards to maneuver
 > the far end back into the clip at the gas cap flange? Obviously all
 > operations would have to be done by feel with the amount of fingers
 > that can go into sending unit hole and gas cap flange on other end. I
 > don't think even a child's hand would go all the way through those
 > holes.
 > Just another area of total lack of QC on the QB process.
 > Kelly
 > 40866
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 >
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		woxofswa
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 7:56 pm    Post subject: Re: QB Fuel tank issue | 
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				Kelly,
 
 I've got QB tanks not far from you in Mesa.  The sender is in one but not the other.  You are welcome to come look at mine if it helps.
 Myron
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		partner14
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 10:13 pm    Post subject: QB Fuel tank issue | 
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				A little off topic, but as a new guy, I was very interested in the actual amount of USABLE fuel in my QB tanks.  So I ran the right tank out in the air last week, and after getting on the ground was pleasantly pleased to drain a whopping 4oz out.  Then refueled... where the tank took every bit of 30 gallons.
  Hope all of you didn't eat toooo much today.... but even if you did, it doesn't matter.... because we fly the RV10!
  Don McDonald
 
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 From: Jesse Saint <jesse(at)saintaviation.com>
 Subject: Re: QB Fuel tank issue
 To: "rv10-list(at)matronics.com" <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>
 Date: Thursday, November 26, 2009, 3:28 PM
 
  --> RV10-List message posted by: Jesse Saint <jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)>
 
 From my experience, you should be able to get the line back through the clip via the fuel filler cap.  My recommendation would be to get someone with fuel tanks still open to try it for you and see if it's doable.
 
 Do not archive.
 
 Jesse Saint
 Saint Aviation
 jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)
 352-427-0285
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Nov 26, 2009, at 5:09 PM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2(at)gmail.com (apilot2(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
 
  	  | Quote: | 	 		   --> RV10-List message posted by: Kelly  McMullen <apilot2(at)gmail.com (apilot2(at)gmail.com)>
  
  I discovered that one of my fuel tanks has the vent line improperly
  bent in the inboard bay, such that it runs down the middle between the
  two stiffeners, leaving no room for the sending unit float, either in
  front or behind. Email with Vans has suggested trying to loosen the
  nut on the inside to disconnect the vent line, and re-bend it. I think
  this might be possible if I pulled the line out perhaps 8-10". Can
  anyone comment on feasibility, given the need aftewards to maneuver
  the far end back into the clip at the gas cap flange? Obviously all
  operations would have to be done by feel with the amount of fingers
  that can go into sending unit hole and gas cap flange on other end. I
  don't think even a child's hand  would go all the way through those
  holes.
  Just another area of total lack of QC on the QB process.
  Kelly
  40866
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		Tim Olson
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 5:12 am    Post subject: QB Fuel tank issue | 
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				I did the same once.....same results....I was absolutely AMAZED. Mine fill with near 31 gallons if I go to the rim.
 Tim
 
 
 On Nov 27, 2009, at 12:12 AM, Don McDonald <building_partner(at)yahoo.com (building_partner(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:
 
 [quote]A little off topic, but as a new guy, I was very interested in the actual amount of USABLE fuel in my QB tanks.  So I ran the right tank out in the air last week, and after getting on the ground was pleasantly pleased to drain a whopping 4oz out.  Then refueled... where the tank took every bit of 30 gallons.
  Hope all of you didn't eat toooo much today.... but even if you did, it doesn't matter.... because we fly the RV10!
  Don McDonald
 
 --- On Thu, 11/26/09, Jesse Saint <jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)> wrote:
 
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 From: Jesse Saint <jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)>
 Subject: Re: QB Fuel tank issue
 To: "rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)" <rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)>
 Date: Thursday, November 26, 2009, 3:28 PM
 
  --> RV10-List message posted by: Jesse Saint <[url=mailto:jesse(at)saintaviation.com]jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)[/url]>
 
 From my experience, you should be able to get the line back through the clip via the fuel filler cap.  My recommendation would be to get someone with fuel tanks still open to try it for you and see if it's doable.
 
 Do not archive.
 
 Jesse Saint
 Saint Aviation
 [url=mailto:jesse(at)saintaviation.com]jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)[/url]
 352-427-0285
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Nov 26, 2009, at 5:09 PM, Kelly McMullen <[url=mailto:apilot2(at)gmail.com]apilot2(at)gmail.com (apilot2(at)gmail.com)[/url]> wrote:
 
  	  | Quote: | 	 		   --> RV10-List message posted by: Kelly  McMullen <[url=mailto:apilot2(at)gmail.com]apilot2(at)gmail.com (apilot2(at)gmail.com)[/url]>
  
  I discovered that one of my fuel tanks has the vent line improperly
  bent in the inboard bay, such that it runs down the middle between the
  two stiffeners, leaving no room for the sending unit float, either in
  front or behind. Email with Vans has suggested trying to loosen the
  nut on the inside to disconnect the vent line, and re-bend it. I think
  this might be possible if I pulled the line out perhaps 8-10". Can
  anyone comment on feasibility, given the need aftewards to maneuver
  the far end back into the clip at the gas cap flange? Obviously all
  operations would have to be done by feel with the amount of fingers
  that can go into sending unit hole and gas cap flange on other end. I
  don't think even a child's hand  would go all the way through those
  holes.
  Just another area of total lack of QC on the QB process.
  Kelly
  40866
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