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messydeer

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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:54 am Post subject: Re: Dan's Switches

Thanks, Bob.



I'd be happy to send the unit to you. Pretty sure it's got the right die set. I'll lookup your address on your website.

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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:06 am Post subject: Dan's Switches

At 10:54 AM 11/24/2009, you wrote:

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Thanks, Bob.



I'd be happy to send the unit to you. Pretty sure it's got the right die set.


	


   If it's mashing insulators such that they

   expose the insulation grip sleeves, then it

   seems likely that it's not the right die-set

   for the terminals you have.



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		    I'll lookup your address on your website.


	


   Good. Send some terminals too. Let's see what

   ingredients are not meeting design goals

   in your recipe for success.

        Bob . . .



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messydeer

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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:51 pm Post subject: Re: Dan's Switches

USPS scheduled to pickup tomorrow. Should be there in 3-4 days. Could have made it sooner, but didn't want to drop your name to them. It fit in a small priority mail box, but reminded me of sitting in an Allegiant Airline seat.



I didn't see your post about the terminals, so they aren't included. Seems like it was the yellow ones that I started with, and know that one insulation gripper ring poked through. They were AMP PIDG bought from B&C. Others failed the pull test when cycled through. I had done some red terminals, too, that I'd tried. To start, I didn't know which end the terminal should go, so I called Ideal tech support and verified it. I'm curious to see what you find.

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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:45 pm Post subject: Dan's Switches

I use a cigarette lighter...  Carefully.  Just kidding...  Mostly.

Regards,



Matt-



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 <nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com>



 At 03:41 PM 11/21/2009, you wrote:

>

><jmtipton(at)btopenworld.com>

>

>Hi Guys

>

>What's the chosen method of shrinking, 'heat-shrink' ?



    Heat  . . .



    Seriously, it depends on your situation. I've had $150 heat

    guns than put concentrated heat into tiny spaces. They're

    quite useful when working inside some piece of electronics.

    95% of the time, a $15 heat gun from Harbor Freight does the

    job. ANY heatgun can supply MORE heat than you need. Get

    used to the specific combination of shrink, situation and

    tools before you dive into finished work.

         Bob . . .



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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:08 pm Post subject: Dan's Switches

Good Afternoon Matt,

  

 The best, fastest, and most carefully detailing wiring artist I know will  use nothing but a Bic to shrink the tubing!

  

 Happy Skies,

 Old Bob

 AKA

 Bob Siegfried

 Brookeridge Airpark

 Downers Grove, IL

 Stearman N3977A

  

  In a message dated 11/24/2009 3:47:06 P.M. Central Standard Time,  mprather(at)spro.net writes:

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I use a cigarette lighter...     Carefully.  Just kidding...     Mostly.

Regards,



Matt-



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 At 03:41 PM 11/21/2009,    you wrote:

>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "JOHN    TIPTON"

><jmtipton(at)btopenworld.com>

>

>Hi    Guys

>

>What's the chosen method of shrinking,    'heat-shrink' ?



    Heat  . .    .



    Seriously, it depends on your situation. I've    had $150 heat

    guns than put concentrated heat into tiny    spaces. They're

    quite useful when working inside some    piece of electronics.

    95% of the time, a $15 heat gun    from Harbor Freight does the

    job. ANY heatgun can supply    MORE heat than you need. Get

    used to the specific    combination of shrink, situation and

    tools before you    dive into finished work.

            Bob . . .



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messydeer

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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:52 pm Post subject: Re: Dan's Switches

I use a butane lighter. I thought that's what most people used. Just grabbed the long nosed one for the barbeque. Looks like it's refillable. Actually might use the refill feature, since I have a can of butane that I won't use for my soldering iron. I had bought a Bernzomatic micro torch with a soldering iron tip. The flame pulses about every 3 seconds, which makes it useless for the flame part of it. The iron part evens the pulses out, but I've got a 30W that I use for that.

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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 5:14 pm Post subject: Dan's Switches

At 04:21 PM 11/21/2009, you wrote:

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 > ???? how was the plastic on the PIDG terminal being

 > compromised???

The metal insulation closure when pinched down poked through the 

outer preinsulation. I thought I was getting a decent device when I 

bought the Crimpmaster. I found that terminals don't fit well in it, 

both in the direction of the wire and in the direction of the 

handle. I tried a few different adjustments and gave up. I have done 

almost all of my crimping with a GB cheapo I have and pull tested 

enough to know when it's good.


	


    Are you sure you have the right die-set

    for the Crimpmaster? As I recall, there's

    a suite of interchangeable dies offered

    for that tool.  I'd be interested in seeing

    what you have. I'll pay the postage back

    if you pay the postage to me. Send me some

    of the terminals you're using too.



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    I received your tool and tested it with

    AMP PIDG terminals and found the finished

    results to be satisfactory. You didn't

    send me any of the terminals you're using

    but I suspect they are not AMP parts. There

    are perhaps dozens of pre-insulated terminals

    that are 'qualified' to widely accepted

    specifications no the least of which is . . .



http://www.aeroelectric.com/Reference_Docs/Mil-Specs/Mil-T-7928slash4.pdf



    Can you tell us what the brand and part numbers

    are for terminals you're using?



    Some years ago a local supplier offered me some

    'qualified' terminals that worked pretty good with

    $high$ PIDG tooling but looked like (at)#$(at) when

    installed with our $low$ favorite tool:



http://aeroelectric.com/Pictures/Terminals/JST_Samples_2.jpg



    Bob . . .

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messydeer

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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 7:03 pm Post subject: Re: Dan's Switches

Thanks Bob. 



They were AMP, PIDG. Red and yellow fastons from B&C.

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