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		jrlark
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:09 pm    Post subject: rudder skins | 
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				Hi all
 
 I've just started to countersink my rudder skins and am wondering if there 
 is any reason that the very top and bottom rivet holes could not also be 
 drilled to size and countersunk (CS4-4 rivets) while I'm doing the rest of 
 the skins.  I couldn't find any reference to these holes in section 7. 
 Having said that maybe the fairings for top and bottom fit differently after 
 the rudder is assembled.  Anyone know?
 
 Also for the Canadian builders.  I'm wondering how far I can assemble the 
 rudder before I have to stop to allow the MDRA inspection?
 
 Thx
 
 Rick
 #40956
 Southampton, Ont
 
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		jesse(at)saintaviation.co Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 3:44 pm    Post subject: rudder skins | 
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				You have to match drill the holes into the rudder top and rudder bottom fairings.  It's best to leave the factory holes until you get to the Empenage Fairings section.
 
 Jesse Saint
 Saint Aviation, Inc.
 jesse(at)saintaviation.com
 Cell: 352-427-0285
 Fax: 815-377-3694
 
 On Dec 30, 2009, at 2:18 PM, Sandra & Rick Lark wrote:
 
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  Hi all
  
  I've just started to countersink my rudder skins and am wondering if there is any reason that the very top and bottom rivet holes could not also be drilled to size and countersunk (CS4-4 rivets) while I'm doing the rest of the skins.  I couldn't find any reference to these holes in section 7. Having said that maybe the fairings for top and bottom fit differently after the rudder is assembled.  Anyone know?
  
  Also for the Canadian builders.  I'm wondering how far I can assemble the rudder before I have to stop to allow the MDRA inspection?
  
  Thx
  
  Rick
  #40956
  Southampton, Ont 
  
  
  
  
 
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				 Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 3:52 pm    Post subject: rudder skins | 
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				Rick those holes on the tiop are for the fairings and they will be final
 drilled along ways down the road follow the plans to the steps and you will
 do fine.
 John 
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		jrlark
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 7:26 pm    Post subject: rudder skins | 
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				Thx Jesse and John, I decided to "leave well enough alone" and wait until I 
 see instructions in the plans.
 Regards,  Rick
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		Ron B.
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 2:48 pm    Post subject: Re: rudder skins | 
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				I found it best to speak with the individual inspector from MD-RA. Our inspector was fine with being able to roll back one skin and look in. I'm sure with the first inspections he will want to see all rivets, both shop and bucked heads. Later , if your work meets his approval he may let you close up small areas so the component will have a larger amount of work  completed to inspect. He will use a mirror or bore scope ( if you have access to one) to look inside the closed in areas.
 Ron
 
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