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WurlyBird

Joined: 16 May 2008
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Location: North Pole, Alaska

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 7:54 pm Post subject: Wingtank.com tank install, ongoing

I had heard several people mention the wingtank.com replacement tanks but I had not heard anyone mention actually having them.  Well my wonderful, totally awesome, spectacular, and super cool wife got me a set for Christmas and I have just about collected all the bits needed for the install, I still need to get a spray gun and a compressor.  I thought I would do a log of my installation for anyone who is interested in these tanks, I also thought it might be mildly beneficial/interesting since I have never worked with fabric and it has me a little scared still.  Right now I am writing to the guys at wingtanks.com because the instructions come across as having been written by someone in a little hurry after having done their 50th similar install.  There just seems to be a few things glossed over as if the directions are a formality and it all just falls together.  I filled one of the tanks to rinse it out and I got a little short of 5 1/2 gallons in but this was from bone dry to filling the neck.  I am trying to figure out whether I even need a sight tube fuel gauge and how to install one if I do.  And I am also trying to work out a few other things but I will get to those as they start to make sense.  I plan on doing one wing at a time and I figure I will be able to remove a wing and install a tank in about a day and it will probably take 2 weekends to finish the painting but only time will tell.



James



edited to better describe my wife

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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:27 am Post subject: Wingtank.com tank install, ongoing

Great, James.  Keep us updated.

Deke

Ps:  congrats on your new ticket



Subject: Wingtank.com tank install, ongoing

 	  Quote: 	
		  

 I had heard several people mention the wingtank.com replacement tanks but 

 I had not heard anyone mention actually having them.  Well my wonderful 

 wife got me a set for Christmas and I have just about collected all the 

 bits needed for the install, I still need to get a spray gun and a 

 compressor.  I thought I would do a log of my installation for anyone who 

 is interested in these tanks, I also thought it might be mildly 

 beneficial/interesting since I have never worked with fabric and it has me 

 a little scared still.  Right now I am writing to the guys at 

 wingtanks.com because the instructions come across as having been written 

 by someone in a little hurry after having done their 50th similar install. 

 There just seems to be a few things glossed over as if the directions are 

 a formality and it all just falls together.  I filled one of the tanks to 

 rinse it out and I got a little short of 5 1/2 gallons in but this was 

 from bone dry to filling the neck.  I am trying to figure ou!

 t whether I even need a sight tube fuel gauge and how to install one if I 

 do.  And I am also trying to work out a few other things but I will get to 

 those as they start to make sense.  i plan on doing one wing at a time and 

 I figure I will be able to remove a wing and install a tank in about a day 

 and it will probably take 2 weekends to finish the painting but only time 

 will tell.



 James



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Tom Jones

Joined: 12 Mar 2006
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Location: Ellensburg, WA

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 7:01 am Post subject: Re: Wingtank.com tank install, ongoing

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		  I am trying to figure out whether I even need a sight tube fuel gauge and how to install one if I do. 	




I haven't seen these in person but looking at the picture on their web site I'd say you don't need a site gauge.  You should be able to see the fuel through the end of the tank...I think.

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Dick Maddux

Joined: 24 Jun 2008
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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 7:36 am Post subject: Wingtank.com tank install, ongoing

James,

  I for one would be very interested in your progress. Please take lots of pictures. I am kind of waiting for this bomb to explode in my aircraft as last week our last station in my area, switched to alcohol fuel and that's what I am forced to use. So if my filters start to clog I am faced with the route you have taken, rip my wings open and reslosh my tanks, or perhaps go to John McBean for a new set of hopefully alcohol resistant tanks. I am favoring the later but will be most interested in your endeavor.

                                                      Dick Maddux

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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:41 am Post subject: Wingtank.com tank install, ongoing

 Dick C

  

 I have a Model IV.  Aug 1993 version.  Bare tanks C use alcohol fuel all the time.  Alsmost 1500 hours no problems. 

  

 Clint

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Date: Tue C 5 Jan 2010 10:11:08 -0500

Subject: Re: Wingtank.com tank install C ongoing

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 James C

  I for one would be very interested in your progress. Please take lots of pictures. I am kind of waiting for this bomb to explode in my aircraft as last week our last station in my area C switched to alcohol fuel and that's what I am forced to use. So if my filters start to clog I am faced with the route you have taken C rip my wings open and reslosh my tanks C or perhaps go to John McBean for a new set of hopefully alcohol resistant tanks. I am favoring the later but will be most interested in your endeavor.

                                                      Dick Maddux

                                                      Fox 4

                                                      Milton CFl

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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:54 am Post subject: Wingtank.com tank install, ongoing

Clint - what % ethanol in the fuel you've been using? What octane  rating? It makes a *big* difference...

  

  

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Rotax 582 with 3 blade GSC prop 

Wrightsville  Pa



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 Dick,

 

I have a Model IV.  Aug 1993  version.  Bare tanks, use alcohol fuel all the time.  Alsmost 1500  hours no problems. 

 

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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 10:11:08 -0500

Subject: Re:  Wingtank.com tank install, ongoing

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 James,

  I for one would be very interested in your progress. Please take lots  of pictures. I am kind of waiting for this bomb to explode in my  aircraft as last week our last station in my area, switched to alcohol fuel  and that's what I am forced to use. So if my filters start to clog I am faced  with the route you have taken, rip my wings open and reslosh my tanks, or  perhaps go to John McBean for a new set of hopefully alcohol resistant tanks. I  am favoring the later but will be most interested in your endeavor.

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                                                       Fox 4

                                                       Milton,Fl

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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:07 pm Post subject: Re: Wingtank.com tank install, ongoing

[quote="Dick Maddux"]James,

  I for one would be very interested in your progress. Please take lots of pictures. I am kind of waiting for this bomb to explode in my aircraft as last week our last station in my area, switched to alcohol fuel and that's what I am forced to use. So if my filters start to clog I am faced with the route you have taken, rip my wings open and reslosh my tanks, or perhaps go to John McBean for a new set of hopefully alcohol resistant tanks. I am favoring the later but will be most interested in your endeavor.

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            ï¿½           ï¿½            ï¿½           ï¿½    Fox 4

            ï¿½           ï¿½            ï¿½           ï¿½    Milton,Fl

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Dick, I hope that you get good luck that I have had with ethanol gas.  I have no sloshing in mine and really would not use it except for last resort.   



I am too interested in the plastic tank install. seem like a great drop in application. I do have a fellow interested in them for his model 2 as he only has a dash tank.  I just repaired his right wing after a ground loop into a bean field and ripped the flapperon off. 3 of the 5 rib ends were torn right off.  Tanks outta budjet now for him but maybe in the near future.   I test flew it a week ago and works well

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WurlyBird

Joined: 16 May 2008
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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:20 pm Post subject: Re: Wingtank.com tank install, ongoing

Anyone that has read any of my recent posts knows that I am having fuel concerns and I have been trying to figure out the lesser of the two evils between ethanol and lead.  Aside from this issue I have experienced a leak in one of my tanks if filled above half full.  I have been using this tank to only hold a couple gallons unless I am going on a long flight but this was a temporary solution.  Both tanks have obviously leaked or sloshed out at some time and the fabric underneath them is ruined.  



So I have concerns about the available fuels in my area, one tank is leaking, and the fabric on the wings REALLY needs to be replaced anyway.  It is not too hard to come to the conclusion of simply replacing the tanks.



Price was certainly one of the big factors in deciding to go with these tanks over John McB's.  I am immediately pleased with these tanks and their construction.  They look very sound and robust.  The fuel outlets are of a different configuration then I would have expected.  You drill a hole, put a hollow, top hat shaped grommet into the dole and then force the outlet into the grommet which then uses pressure to seal the hole.  As I mentioned in my first post I had some concerns with the directions and I sent them an email full of questions.  All questions have been answered in less then a days time and I was told that the directions are what were handed over when the company changed hands and that all suggestions are welcome regarding them.  I will try to make a post every day that I am able to work on the project and I will try to take a bunch of pictures and post the pertinent ones.



James

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WurlyBird

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Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 6:40 pm Post subject: Re: Wingtank.com tank install, ongoing

Here is what is sure to be the first of many questions during this install.  I am almost done reading the Poly-Fiber manual and it mentions that a PF sealer needs to be used any time securing fabric to wood, fine.  The guys at wingtanks.com are telling me that I do not need to use any sealer and I can simply glue down the plywood covers, apply fabric and paint.  What are your thoughts on this?



Having gotten into this manual, and now my wing, I have come to realize that my Kitfox does not have rib stitching on it's overcambered wing which according to PF should certainly have stitching.  I have not pulled out the build manual yet but I was wondering if this is normal for the KF.



I have some pictues of the damaged fabric on one wing and I will post them once I get into the wing and have more pictures worth posting.



James

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Paul A. Franz, P.E.

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Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:34 pm Post subject: Wingtank.com tank install, ongoing

On Thu, January 7, 2010 6:40 pm, WurlyBird wrote:

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 Here is what is sure to be the first of many questions during this install.  I am

 almost done reading the Poly-Fiber manual and it mentions that a PF sealer needs to be

 used any time securing fabric to wood, fine.  The guys at wingtanks.com are telling me

 that I do not need to use any sealer and I can simply glue down the plywood covers,

 apply fabric and paint.  What are your thoughts on this?


	


Always follow PolyFiber's instructions. They trump anyone else's. If in doubt phone

them, they are of the utmost help and support. They cheerfully answer questions. They

have even sent me extra stuff without charging when I only needed little.



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		   Having gotten into this manual, and now my wing, I have come to realize that my Kitfox

 does not have rib stitching on it's overcambered wing which according to PF should

 certainly have stitching.  I have not pulled out the build manual yet but I was

 wondering if this is normal for the KF.


	


This has been discussed frequently over the years. Screws and rivets have very often

been used successfully by themselves however rib lacing is by far the most preferred

way. Rib lacing is a quickly learned skill and each time I have done it, I had to go

back to the manual to learn it again. I think it added less than 10 total hours for

all of it that I did on both wings and in several other places in the tail feathers

and landing gear struts.



I encourage you to rib lace where you are recovering. I wouldn't bother removing

covering just to rib lace as long as it otherwise doesn't require recovering. Most

flight shows this spring will have a Poly Fiber clinic where you can practice with

supervision. The manual shows you how to tie the knots and hide them using good

drawings so that will just be a fun new thing to learn and do for you.

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Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:52 pm Post subject: Wingtank.com tank install, ongoing

James,



I did a bit of research a couple of days ago regarding the Steve Wittman 

crash.  His Tailwind had plywood skinned wings with fabric over the plywood. 

He used dacron fabric and a cotton fabric / dope to attach the fabric to the 

wood.  After ten years flying his airplane, the fabric separated just 

forward of the aileron and the resulting flutter destroyed the airplane in 

flight.  In other words, he didn't use proper procedures.



For my money, in this situation, I think I would pay some attention to the 

fabric guys - unless, of course, the tank guys are very rich or have great 

liability insurance.



Regarding the ribstitching - I believe ribstitching was very rare in the 

early Kitfoxes.  My 1993 Model IV manual said nothing about rib stitching. 

I did it though because of talk on the Kitfox list back then.  If I were to 

guess, I suspect not four or five out of a hundred were rib stitched - 

again, in the early Kitfoxes.  I suspect when others read your post, some I 

through III pilots might chime in with more authoritative info.



Lowell



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Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 8:46 am Post subject: Wingtank.com tank install, ongoing

James,

 

My Model 2 is not rib-stitched. I did not cover and paint myself but I did carefully review every line of the builders logs and published instructions after purchasing the project. As I recall, Kitfox did not then (early '90's) recommend rib stitching, advising that the 1" cap strips on the ribs provided a sufficient glue surface to hold down the fabric without stitching

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Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 8:47 am Post subject: Wingtank.com tank install, ongoing

Sealer is quick and cheap and may prevent wood rotting or whatever later 

on. Can't think of any reason to not do it.

  Same w/ ribstitching. I ribstitched my 4-1200 and I wouldn't fly a Kitfox 

without it. Not that you shouldn't if you so desire, just that I won't. Not 

to bad a project to pull the tapes ,stitch, replace new tapes.

  Learning the Modified seine knot that most use in ribstiching takes a bit 

of time and it is a slow process after you lean. You can ,hoever, use the 

Beechcraft Staggerwing knot that is much easier and faster. The Sewart 

Systems process has this written into their Manual and STC for certified 

aircraft. FWIIW, the Stewart System can be used over any other process for 

repairs and the ce,ent and paint,etc. will not react with other materials 

like dope or poly will. I have written this in terms of certified aircraft, 

but of course ,if is will be acceptable on certified it is acceptable on 

Experimental.  http://www.stewartsystems.aero/

Check their site above. I have been using their materials for over 5 yrs and 

am very pleased with it.

                         Larry Huntley A&P ,4-1200 EA-81,Warp,AMAX redrive, 

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Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 9:15 am Post subject: Wingtank.com tank install, ongoing

the truth about the need to rib stitch is buried in the need for poly fiber to cover their hinder and the kit mfgr. to make his kit appear as quick to build as possible. poly fiber states in their manual it is imperative to rib stitch ''even with 1 inch wide rib caps''. 

                 bob noffs

 On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Larry Huntley <asq(at)roadrunner.com (asq(at)roadrunner.com)> wrote:

 [quote]--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Larry Huntley" <asq(at)roadrunner.com (asq(at)roadrunner.com)>

 

 Sealer is quick and cheap and may prevent wood rotting or whatever later on. Can't think of any reason to not do it.

 Same w/ ribstitching. I ribstitched my 4-1200 and I wouldn't fly a Kitfox without it. Not that you shouldn't if you so desire, just that I won't. Not to bad a project to pull the tapes ,stitch, replace new tapes.

  Learning the Modified seine knot that most use in ribstiching takes a bit of time and it is a slow process after you lean. You can ,hoever, use the Beechcraft Staggerwing knot that is much easier and faster. The Sewart Systems process has this written into their Manual and STC for certified aircraft. FWIIW, the Stewart System can be used over any other process for repairs and the ce,ent and paint,etc. will not react with other materials like dope or poly will. I have written this in terms of certified aircraft, but of course ,if is will be acceptable on certified it is acceptable on Experimental.  http://www.stewartsystems.aero/

 Check their site above. I have been using their materials for over 5 yrs and am very pleased with it.

                       Larry Huntley A&P ,4-1200 EA-81,Warp,AMAX redrive, 500+ hrs

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Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 10:08 am Post subject: Wingtank.com tank install, ongoing

For what it is worth, my very recent experience with rib stitching amounts 

to approximately the following.



Measuring and marking the stitch locations with  a chalk line and punching 

the holes about half an hour each wing

Positioning the reinforcing tape about an hour each wing

Rib stitching about a day each wing ( I did rib stitch under the wing tank 

and under my aluminum leading edge - a bit more challenging)

Then there is the long finish tape over the spar, that needed to be 

sectioned rather than applied in one continuous strip to avoid crossing the 

reinforcing tape an additional half hour.



Total about three days.



Cost about $100 for the reinforcing tape and $50 for the rib lace cord.



Worth it?  To me yes.



Lowell



In short, I think I have

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Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 1:12 pm Post subject: Wingtank.com tank install, ongoing

James, I would difinitely seal the wood. It will resist moisture. Nothing will make it "Waterproof". I had the same question when I rebuilt my Mod 3. I can't remember if I settled on varnish or used West System Epoxy to seal. I know I thought about varnish and usually have West resin on hand. The aircraft suppliers sell 2 part varnishes that cost a gizzillian $. I needed maybe a 1/2 pint What ever I used I tested it with PF product to make sure they were compatible.

   

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 Mod 3 582 Rebuild

 Rockford, IL 

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Here is what is sure to be the first of many questions during this install.  I am almost done reading the Poly-Fiber manual and it mentions that a PF sealer needs to be used any time securing fabric to wood, fine.  The guys at wingtanks.com are telling me that I do not need to use any sealer and I can simply glue down the plywood covers, apply fabric and paint.  What are your thoughts on this?

 

Having gotten into this manual, and now my wing, I have come to realize that my Kitfox does not have rib stitching on it's overcambered wing which according to PF should certainly have stitching.  I have not pulled out the build manual yet but I was wondering if this is normal for the KF.

 

I have some pictues of the damaged fabric on one wing and I will post them once I get into the wing and have more pictures worth posting.



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Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 1:21 pm Post subject: Re: Wingtank.com tank install, ongoing

When I got my plane it was not rib stitched.  for peace of mind, I stitched it when I rebuild it.  The polyfiber manual I have says you dont have to ribstitch UNDERCAMBERED wings, but you need to be very careful and not shrink to the full temp or it could pull away.  Total time for me to cover, layout, stitch, tape, shrink and have ready to shoot silver was one day each wing.  The third day was shooting silver and top coat.

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Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 3:56 pm Post subject: Wingtank.com tank install, ongoing

Len, My God, I wished you lived close by. I'd hire you by the hour to cover the wings on the next one I build.

  

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When I got my plane it was not rib stitched.  for peace of mind, I stitched it when I rebuild it.  The polyfiber manual I have says you dont have to ribstitch UNDERCAMBERED wings, but you need to be very careful and not shrink to the full temp or it could pull away.  Total time for me to cover, layout, stitch, tape, shrink and have ready to shoot silver was one day each wing.  The third day was shooting silver and top coat.

 

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Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 7:36 pm Post subject: Re: Wingtank.com tank install, ongoing

when I get on a project i  dont stop for anything... 5:00 am in the shop, quit when your done..  Things progress quickly like that.

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Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 7:07 am Post subject: Wingtank.com tank install, ongoing

Len, Still hittin it at 5:00am. I'm jealouse. I'm getting lazy as I get older. Curious, how old are you?

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 On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 9:36 PM, akflyer <akflyer_2000(at)yahoo.com (akflyer_2000(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:

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when I get on a project i  dont stop for anything... 5:00 am in the shop, quit when your done..  Things progress quickly like that.



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