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John Hauck

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 4639
Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 7:42 pm Post subject: AD insurance

>> Here's what it looks like up here in the north country. These were taken 

on 1/13/10 in the Kolbra.

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> Ralph


	




Forgot to ask how you are keeping your eng oil and CHT in the green in cold 

country?



john h

mkIII

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lucien

Joined: 03 Jun 2007
Posts: 721
Location: santa fe, NM

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 6:54 am Post subject: Re: AD insurance

 	  slyck(at)frontiernet.net wrote: 	
		  "There's just something about blasting off out of a field somewhere that you just don't quite capture when it's a big airport." -LS

I agree.  especially nice if you own it and:

1 always cleared number one for takeoff

2. absolutely free, including hangar (pretentious name for old shed), farm rent pays taxes

3. within view of my front window

4. tires last forever

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The place I flew my UL out of wasn't nearly this nice. But beggars couldn't be choosers so I flew with a good pint or so of leak-stop in the tires (lots of Mesquite thorns) and just became accustomed to the cow patties. 

Usually, a low pass over the runway was needed to scatter the cows so they'd let me land. Once or twice it didn't work so very very short field landings were needed.



The owner eventually got tired (or scared) of flying and turned the field into a paint-ball park thing, kicking everyone out with only a month's notice. I had to move to one of the local public airports and unfortunately that was also the end of the real magical flying days. 



I've been trying to recapture that ever since, even tho I love all the planes I've flown since then.



Another FSII or a firefly would really be the ticket if I could ever find another farm like that. The quicksilver was a not completely wonderful rough-field plane as the axle and associated structures boogered the bolt holes in pretty short order even with rather large baloon tires. The titan would be better than the quick especially with the titanium axles, but still probably not that great long-term for constant rough-field ops.



Nothing I could think of would be better for that kind of rough-field duty than a Kolb, as I remember how well my FSII worked on grass....



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Ralph B

Joined: 14 Apr 2007
Posts: 367
Location: Mound Minnesota

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:13 pm Post subject: Re: AD insurance

="slyck(at)frontiernet.net" 	  Quote: 	
		  Ralph, I didn't realize MN is at sea level..

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On 23, Jan 2010, at 8:49 PM, Ralph B wrote:



I knew I was going to get a comment on this. I like to zero out my altimeter on the ground when I am flying locally because it's easier to see exactly how high I am (a carry over from my ultralight days). The actual field elevation at Forest Lake is 925'. 



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Kolb Kolbra 912uls
N20386
550 hours

Ralph B

Joined: 14 Apr 2007
Posts: 367
Location: Mound Minnesota

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:22 pm Post subject: Re: AD insurance

"John Hauck" 	  Quote: 	
		  Forgot to ask how you are keeping your eng oil and CHT in the green in cold country?

john h

mkIII 	




John, I bought some "residue-free" duct tape and taped off most of the coolant radiator (in front only) and half of the oil cooler all of the way around. If it's 20F or colder, I need to tape off all of the coolant radiator in front. I can easily remove layers of tape according to the temperature that day. On this particular day, the temp was 26F and I could have used a little more tape as the oil temps were in the 140's and 150's. I like to see them around 175F to 195F.



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John Hauck

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 4639
Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:45 pm Post subject: AD insurance

> John, I bought some "residue-free" duct tape and taped off most of the 

coolant radiator (in front only) and half of the oil cooler all of the way 

around. If it's 20F or colder, I need to tape off all of the coolant 

radiator in front. I can easily remove layers of tape according to the 

temperature that day. On this particular day, the temp was 26F and I could 

have used a little more tape as the oil temps were in the 140's and 150's. I 

like to see them around 175F to 195F.

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 Ralph


	




Hard to keep a 912UL warm, they run much cooler than the 912ULS.



With the new Titan Exhaust System, I was flying in 60F OAT with two wraps of 

2" tape on each side radiator.  I have the oil cooler piggy backed on the 

radiator.  Basically, it the tape covers the area on each side that is 

outside the width of the oil cooler.



I find 5,000 rpm is an ideal speed to operate both the UL and the ULS. 

Anything below that and you will have to build a fire under the engine to 

get the engine oil temp up to 190-210F to boil off condensation and 

contaminants.



On my UL, I bypassed the oil cooler in the winter and temps would remain in 

the normal range at 5,000 rpm and faster.



Do you have the official name of the residue free duct tape?  Once the glue 

gets on the hot radiator, it is very difficult to remove.



john h

mkIII

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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:54 pm Post subject: AD insurance

John Hauck

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 4639
Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 1:04 pm Post subject: AD insurance

> I knew I was going to get a comment on this. I like to zero out my 

altimeter on the ground when I am flying locally because it's easier to see 

exactly how high I am (a carry over from my ultralight days). The actual 

field elevation at Forest Lake is 925'.

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 Ralph


	




Ralph/Gang:



Yes, zero altitude at you home field is a carry over from UL training.  Many 

UL trainers had no formal flight training or experience.  They didn't know 

any better.  They taught what they knew.  This same attitude can be seen at 

the UL fields at Lakeland and Oshkosh.



Zeroing the altimeter at your field elevation only works if you field is at 

sea level.



It does not take long to learn to use the altimeter set at field elevation 

to fly.  Then everything else works, like terrain height, antennas, smoke 

stacks, Talking to other pilots and control towers, etc.



Another bad trait I observe in the UL area of aviation, and some 

experiemental and GA types, is not orienting the top of the map up as it is 

held.  They attempt to fly with the map oriented to the ground.  Same same 

orienting the moving map on the GPS.  It takes a little bit of practice to 

get used to North Being UP.  Makes cardinal directions much easier to work 

with instead of using up and down, left and right.



john h

mkIII

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Dana

Joined: 13 Dec 2007
Posts: 1047
Location: Connecticut, USA

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 3:47 pm Post subject: AD insurance

At 03:51 PM 1/24/2010, John Hauck wrote:

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		  Yes, zero altitude at you home field is a carry over from UL training.  Many UL trainers had no formal flight training or experience... 	


 I always set to the field elevation... which, in my case, is sea level.  Unless you fly in true flatlands, or never go anywhere, nothing else makes sense.



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		  Another bad trait I observe in the UL area of aviation, and some experiemental and GA types, is not orienting the top of the map up as it is held.  They attempt to fly with the map oriented to the ground.  Same same orienting the moving map on the GPS.  It takes a little bit of practice to get used to North Being UP.  Makes cardinal directions much easier to work with instead of using up and down, left and  right. 	


 I don't know about that.  When I learned to fly, even in a college flight school oriented to turning out airline pilots, I was taught to orient the map to the ground, not north up.  Makes it easier to visualize terrain.  Same for the GPS, though there's another reason there:  on GPS screens that are taller than they are wide, you need (and get) a better view of where you're going than to to the sides.  On my GPS, too, the cursor indicating where I am is displayed in the lower half of the screen, so it shows more of where I'm headed than where I've been.



 -Dana

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Dana

Joined: 13 Dec 2007
Posts: 1047
Location: Connecticut, USA

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 3:47 pm Post subject: AD insurance

At 03:27 PM 1/24/2010, Herb wrote:

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 Hey Herb, I don't know what it is, but all of your messages show up blank, both in my email and on the forum view.



 -Dana



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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 4:08 pm Post subject: AD insurance

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Dana

Joined: 13 Dec 2007
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Location: Connecticut, USA

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 5:11 pm Post subject: AD insurance

Still blank... 

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 At 07:03 PM 1/24/2010, Herb wrote:

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slyck(at)frontiernet.net
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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 5:33 pm Post subject: AD insurance

Herb is a man of few words....

heh heh



On 24, Jan 2010, at 7:03 PM, Herb wrote:



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John Hauck

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 4639
Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 5:34 pm Post subject: AD insurance

Same here.

  

 john h

 mkIII

  

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John Hauck
MKIII/912ULS
hauck's holler
Titus, Alabama

John Hauck

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 4639
Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 5:34 pm Post subject: AD insurance

From: "Herb" <herbgh(at)nctc.com>

 In fact, Herb has been firing blanks since 18 Jan, the last six msgs he has 

sent to the Kolb List.



john h

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lucien

Joined: 03 Jun 2007
Posts: 721
Location: santa fe, NM

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 5:55 pm Post subject: Re: AD insurance

 	  Dana wrote: 	
		  At 03:51 PM 1/24/2010, John Hauck wrote:

  	  Quote: 	
		  Yes, zero altitude at you home field is a carry over from UL training.  Many UL trainers had no formal flight training or experience... 	


 I always set to the field elevation... which, in my case, is sea level.  Unless you fly in true flatlands, or never go anywhere, nothing else makes sense.



  	  Quote: 	
		  Another bad trait I observe in the UL area of aviation, and some experiemental and GA types, is not orienting the top of the map up as it is held.  They attempt to fly with the map oriented to the ground.  Same same orienting the moving map on the GPS.  It takes a little bit of practice to get used to North Being UP.  Makes cardinal directions much easier to work with instead of using up and down, left and  right. 	


 I don't know about that.  When I learned to fly, even in a college flight school oriented to turning out airline pilots, I was taught to orient the map to the ground, not north up.  Makes it easier to visualize terrain.  Same for the GPS, though there's another reason there:  on GPS screens that are taller than they are wide, you need (and get) a better view of where you're going than to to the sides.  On my GPS, too, the cursor indicating where I am is displayed in the lower half of the screen, so it shows more of where I'm headed than where I've been.



 -Dana

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  Diplomacy: Saying "nice doggy" until you find a rock.    	




I also orient the chart to match the ground, or at least I was taught that way. I remember the CFI showing me how the outlines of lakes and towns along with landmarks like a RR or a canyon could be used for this. 



Still seems the easiest method to me when navigating by pilotage primarily, which I've done on my last couple of trips.



I always set the altimeter to the local altimeter setting. This is what the other guys are using so if it's off, everyone's off by the same amount and are flying at the same altitudes. If I can't get an altimeter which is rare, I set to the field elevation and reset as soon as I can pick up a nearby AWOS or ATIS.



Around here, we're indicating 6500' MSL on up before we even leave the ground, so our actual AGL can take a little bit of math. Definitely a tax on my 6th grade edeyukation. I'm slowly getting used to it, tho. 10,000'MSL is just a kick around the patch....



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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 6:04 pm Post subject: AD insurance

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On Jan 24, 2010, at 7:03 PM, Herb wrote:



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John Hauck

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
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Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 6:04 pm Post subject: AD insurance

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Ralph B

Joined: 14 Apr 2007
Posts: 367
Location: Mound Minnesota

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 8:21 pm Post subject: Re: AD insurance

John, here in the flatlands the land elevation doesn't vary much. Local flights are safer with the altimeter zeroed on the ground. It's not just a UL thing. All aerobatic pilots do the same thing no matter where they are performing.



Ralph

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Thom Riddle

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1597
Location: Buffalo, NY, USA (9G0)

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 6:54 am Post subject: Was AD Insurance, now CHART ORIENTATION

We Kolbers seem to have a bad habit of changing threads without changing subject lines.



Regarding flying chart orientation, I spent most my working life doing machine design, the first 20 years or so on a drawing board and the last part doing 3-D modeling on computers. I've hired a few "draftsmen trainees" over the years and found that the innate ability to re-orient shapes in your mind is NOT universal. This ability is a flat out requirement for being a draftsman or mechanical designer. Without it you can't really visualize what the various 2-d orthographic drawing views mean in 3-D space.



I finally uncovered a study done that came up with a meaningful statistic. Only about 1 in 7 people have the innate ability to re-orient shapes in their mind correctly. Those who have this innate ability have no trouble with following the chart with North UP. Those without this ability find it easier to have the chart oriented according to your track across the ground.  This does not mean those without this ability are not good pilots (has nothing to do with pilot skills) but it does have something to say about what works or does not work for an individual regarding chart orientation.

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