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wingdingy(at)gmail.com
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 Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 7:26 am Post subject: Europa-List Digest: 12 Msgs - 01/26/10 |
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| Quote: | >>>>>Rotax extended TBO for the 912 series to 2000 h and 15 years. <<<<<<
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Hey Roland,
Do you have a link for that? Everything I've seen on the Rotax owners group indicates 1500 hour TBO on the 912 that has been upped from 1200 hours. Is this something recent? The Jabiru 3300 has a 2000 hour on the solid lifter version for TBO, (not sure about the hydraulic lifter version) but it is recommended that you top the engine (overhaul the heads) at 1000 hours. The cost to fully overhaul a 3300 was quoted to me last November at around $6000, plus shipping. What is the cost to overhaul a Rotax 912? I was quoted "half the price of a new engine" for a non-certified 912 overhaul by the Rotax folks at Sun-n-Fun a few years ago. I'm scared to ask for my certified 912S. The reduction gear will never make it to 2000 hours, though. 600-700 hour TBO seems more likely. In fact, Lockwood recommends overhauling the reduction gear at 500 hours as of the last time I talked to them, rather than letting if fail, then overhauling it. Apparently, it's cheaper in the long run to have the reduction gear overhauled earlier, as opposed to waiting until you have problems with it.
| Quote: | >>>>More than 30.000 built by now. No need to say more.<<<<<
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Ford built over 84,000 Edsels between 1958 and 1960, but that didn't make them anymore reliable. 50 years later the name "Edsel" is still synonymous with failure. Sort of like how "Rotax and "expensive" have become synonymous.....
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John Lawton
Whitwell, TN (TN89)
N245E - Flying
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| Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:51 am Post subject: Europa-List Digest: 12 Msgs - 01/26/10 |
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rotax-owner.com has a link to the service bulletin extending the tbo
The rotax gear box needs proper maintenance (surprise!)
100 hr friction tourque test (easy)
Smooth running engine extends the life of the Gear Box
Keep prop balanced
Keep carbs balanced
Avoid low idle RPM ( only idle below 1800 RPM when you really must)
Avoid 100LL (lead build-up in gear box)
Kevin
Europa XS Mono-Wheel
Inter-cooled Rotax 914
Airmaster Prop
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 7:24 AM , John Lawton wrote:
| Quote: | >>>>>Rotax extended TBO for the 912 series to 2000 h and 15 years. <<<<<<
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Hey Roland,
Do you have a link for that? Everything I've seen on the Rotax owners group indicates 1500 hour TBO on the 912 that has been upped from 1200 hours. Is this something recent? The Jabiru 3300 has a 2000 hour on the solid lifter version for TBO, (not sure about the hydraulic lifter version) but it is recommended that you top the engine (overhaul the heads) at 1000 hours. The cost to fully overhaul a 3300 was quoted to me last November at around $6000, plus shipping. What is the cost to overhaul a Rotax 912? I was quoted "half the price of a new engine" for a non-certified 912 overhaul by the Rotax folks at Sun-n-Fun a few years ago. I'm scared to ask for my certified 912S. The reduction gear will never make it to 2000 hours, though. 600-700 hour TBO seems more likely. In fact, Lockwood recommends overhauling the reduction gear at 500 hours as of the last time I talked to them, rather than letting if fail, then overhauling it. Apparently, it's cheaper in the long run to have the reduction gear overhauled earlier, as opposed to waiting until you have problems with it.
| Quote: | >>>>More than 30.000 built by now. No need to say more.<<<<<
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Ford built over 84,000 Edsels between 1958 and 1960, but that didn't make them anymore reliable. 50 years later the name "Edsel" is still synonymous with failure. Sort of like how "Rotax and "expensive" have become synonymous....
Regards,
John Lawton
Whitwell, TN (TN89)
N245E - Flying
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Roland
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| Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 12:20 pm Post subject: Re: Europa-List Digest: 12 Msgs - 01/26/10 |
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Hi John,
you can receive information of TBO-extension on http://www.franz-aircraft.de/Rotax/Franz-e.htm (they have also English pages).
In my opinion the comparison between the Ford and Rotax doesn't fit - rather does it for the Volkswagen. Rotax is anything but known for a lack of reliability - but this seems to come close a religious war.
Unfortunately I don't have TBO-costs at hand. Maybe you can also get this information on the website mentioned above.
Happy landings!
Roland
[quote="wingdingy(at)gmail.com"] | Quote: | >>>>>Rotax extended TBO for the 912 series to 2000 h and 15 years. <<<<<<
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Hey Roland,
Do you have a link for that? Everything I've seen on the Rotax owners group indicates 1500 hour TBO on the 912 that has been upped from 1200 hours. Is this something recent? The Jabiru 3300 has a 2000 hour on the solid lifter version for TBO, (not sure about the hydraulic lifter version) but it is recommended that you top the engine (overhaul the heads) at 1000 hours. The cost to fully overhaul a 3300 was quoted to me last November at around $6000, plus shipping. What is the cost to overhaul a Rotax 912? I was quoted "half the price of a new engine" for a non-certified 912 overhaul by the Rotax folks at Sun-n-Fun a few years ago. I'm scared to ask for my certified 912S. The reduction gear will never make it to 2000 hours, though. 600-700 hour TBO seems more likely. In fact, Lockwood recommends overhauling the reduction gear at 500 hours as of the last time I talked to them, rather than letting if fail, then overhauling it. Apparently, it's cheaper in the long run to have the reduction gear overhauled earlier, as opposed to waiting until you have problems with it.
| Quote: | >>>>More than 30.000 built by now. No need to say more.<<<<<
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Ford built over 84,000 Edsels between 1958 and 1960, but that didn't make them anymore reliable. 50 years later the name "Edsel" is still synonymous with failure. Sort of like how "Rotax and "expensive" have become synonymous.....
Regards,
John Lawton
Whitwell, TN (TN89)
N245E - Flying
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