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PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 5:33 pm    Post subject: OT - I want one - Apple iPad Reply with quote

Here’s another idea for you, Dave……

Imagine pre-loading all of the approach plates onto your iPad… 

Then it can use the GPS to geo-reference your approach plates to the closest airport.  So you could push the NRST button and it will sort and present the nearest IAP’s....

I think geo-referencing the IAP’s and charts would completely change how we organize our cockpit.

Imagine having an emergency in IFR and having the closest IAP at your fingertips in a matter of seconds.

Phil



From: Dave Saylor [mailto:dave.saylor.aircrafters(at)gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 7:13 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: OT - I want one - Apple iPad


Wouldn't it be cool to have current approach plates come down the XM signal, or maybe via ADS-B? I have no idea if that's even realistic but it would save a lot of trouble. The 696 takes about an hour to update.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters LLC
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA 95076
831-722-9141 Shop
831-750-0284 Cell


On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy(at)aol.com (gengrumpy(at)aol.com)> wrote:
And hopefully approach plates will be downloadable for free like is available for the Kindle today!!


grumpy

do not archive


On Jan 27, 2010, at 5:44 PM, Robin Marks wrote:




I would not write off Garmin just yet. Is someone going to write terrain awareness, HSI, safe taxi, flight plan etc… software for the iPad that will be able to drive an autopilot and integrate with other avionics? The 696 is a stout unit that is hardware specific design for the cockpit. Will it cut into some Garmin sales; sure. Will it kill 696 and Aera sales? No. Plus sales to our certified brothers & sisters. Even though the iPad is ˝ to 1/3 the price of a 696 I have no problem with the 696 pricing and can see having both in the cockpit. I remember spending $3,000 on a steam gauge EGT/CHT display before purchasing probes and having a certified aircraft mechanic install the unit at about $1,000. Now you can buy a 696 AND an iPad for less than that.

Aren’t we lucky to live during the digital revolution and before the end of the world as we know it…



Robin



From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Perry, Phil
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 1:34 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: RE: OT - I want one - Apple iPad





Garmin just passed out barf bags to their aviation employees…….



I can’t wait for a USB connected XM & GPS antenna combo…



Bye-bye 696’s….



Approach plates, weather, music, movies, GPS, manuals, charts, etc…. We might be getting close to the holy grail….







From: John Trollinger [mailto:john(at)trollingers.com (john(at)trollingers.com)]
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 3:04 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: OT - I want one - Apple iPad




perfect size for a electronic flight bag... approach plates will look great on it
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Dj Merrill <deej(at)deej.net (deej(at)deej.net)> wrote:

--> RV10-List message posted by: Dj Merrill <deej(at)deej.net (deej(at)deej.net)>


On 01/27/2010 02:54 PM, jkreidler wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "jkreidler" <jason.kreidler(at)regalbeloit.com (jason.kreidler(at)regalbeloit.com)>
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> Looks like Apple just released the iPad... Starts at $499, 1.5 lbs, 1/2" thick.

<http://i.engadget.com/2010/01/27/live-from-the-apple-tablet-latest-creation-event/?sort=newest&refresh=30>

has some pics and details of the presentation.

-Dj

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 5:33 pm    Post subject: OT - I want one - Apple iPad Reply with quote

Free and easy enough to setup to automatically download…..

http://www.pdfplates.com/

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Saylor
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 7:13 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: OT - I want one - Apple iPad


Wouldn't it be cool to have current approach plates come down the XM signal, or maybe via ADS-B? I have no idea if that's even realistic but it would save a lot of trouble.  The 696 takes about an hour to update.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters LLC
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA 95076
831-722-9141 Shop
831-750-0284 Cell


On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy(at)aol.com (gengrumpy(at)aol.com)> wrote:
And hopefully approach plates will be downloadable for free like is available for the Kindle today!!


grumpy

do not archive


On Jan 27, 2010, at 5:44 PM, Robin Marks wrote:




I would not write off Garmin just yet. Is someone going to write terrain awareness, HSI, safe taxi, flight plan etc… software for the iPad that will be able to drive an autopilot and integrate with other avionics? The 696 is a stout unit that is hardware specific design for the cockpit. Will it cut into some Garmin sales; sure. Will it kill 696 and Aera sales? No. Plus sales to our certified brothers & sisters. Even though the iPad is ˝ to 1/3 the price of a 696 I have no problem with the 696 pricing and can see having both in the cockpit. I remember spending $3,000 on a steam gauge EGT/CHT display before purchasing probes and having a certified aircraft mechanic install the unit at about $1,000. Now you can buy a 696 AND an iPad for less than that.

Aren’t we lucky to live during the digital revolution and before the end of the world as we know it…



Robin



From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Perry, Phil
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 1:34 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: RE: OT - I want one - Apple iPad





Garmin just passed out barf bags to their aviation employees…….



I can’t wait for a USB connected XM & GPS antenna combo…



Bye-bye 696’s….



Approach plates, weather, music, movies, GPS, manuals, charts, etc…. We might be getting close to the holy grail….







From: John Trollinger [mailto:john(at)trollingers.com (john(at)trollingers.com)]
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 3:04 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: OT - I want one - Apple iPad




perfect size for a electronic flight bag... approach plates will look great on it
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Dj Merrill <deej(at)deej.net (deej(at)deej.net)> wrote:

--> RV10-List message posted by: Dj Merrill <deej(at)deej.net (deej(at)deej.net)>


On 01/27/2010 02:54 PM, jkreidler wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "jkreidler" <jason.kreidler(at)regalbeloit.com (jason.kreidler(at)regalbeloit.com)>
>
> Looks like Apple just released the iPad... Starts at $499, 1.5 lbs, 1/2" thick.

<http://i.engadget.com/2010/01/27/live-from-the-apple-tablet-latest-creation-event/?sort=newest&refresh=30>

has some pics and details of the presentation.

-Dj

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 4:39 am    Post subject: Re: OT - I want one - Apple iPad Reply with quote

Why stop there.... Wouldn't it be nice if our GNS430W Database update downloaded from XM.

Jason

[quote="dave.saylor.aircrafters(a"]Wouldn't it be cool to have current approach plates come down the XM signal, or maybe via ADS-B?ďż˝ I have no idea if that's even realistic but it would save a lot of trouble.ďż˝ The 696 takes about an hour to update.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 11:24 am    Post subject: OT - I want one - Apple iPad Reply with quote

You’re not the only one that wants an iPad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQnT0zp8Ya4

Robin
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From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder (Michael Sausen)
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 5:31 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: OT - I want one - Apple iPad



Free and easy enough to setup to automatically download…..

http://www.pdfplates.com/

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Saylor
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 7:13 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: OT - I want one - Apple iPad


Wouldn't it be cool to have current approach plates come down the XM signal, or maybe via ADS-B? I have no idea if that's even realistic but it would save a lot of trouble. The 696 takes about an hour to update.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters LLC
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA 95076
831-722-9141 Shop
831-750-0284 Cell
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy(at)aol.com (gengrumpy(at)aol.com)> wrote:
And hopefully approach plates will be downloadable for free like is available for the Kindle today!!


grumpy

do not archive


On Jan 27, 2010, at 5:44 PM, Robin Marks wrote:


I would not write off Garmin just yet. Is someone going to write terrain awareness, HSI, safe taxi, flight plan etc… software for the iPad that will be able to drive an autopilot and integrate with other avionics? The 696 is a stout unit that is hardware specific design for the cockpit. Will it cut into some Garmin sales; sure. Will it kill 696 and Aera sales? No. Plus sales to our certified brothers & sisters. Even though the iPad is ˝ to 1/3 the price of a 696 I have no problem with the 696 pricing and can see having both in the cockpit. I remember spending $3,000 on a steam gauge EGT/CHT display before purchasing probes and having a certified aircraft mechanic install the unit at about $1,000. Now you can buy a 696 AND an iPad for less than that.

Aren’t we lucky to live during the digital revolution and before the end of the world as we know it…



Robin



From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Perry, Phil
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 1:34 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: RE: OT - I want one - Apple iPad





Garmin just passed out barf bags to their aviation employees…….



I can’t wait for a USB connected XM & GPS antenna combo…



Bye-bye 696’s….



Approach plates, weather, music, movies, GPS, manuals, charts, etc…. We might be getting close to the holy grail….







From: John Trollinger [mailto:john(at)trollingers.com (john(at)trollingers.com)]
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 3:04 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: OT - I want one - Apple iPad




perfect size for a electronic flight bag... approach plates will look great on it
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Dj Merrill <deej(at)deej.net (deej(at)deej.net)> wrote:

--> RV10-List message posted by: Dj Merrill <deej(at)deej.net (deej(at)deej.net)>


On 01/27/2010 02:54 PM, jkreidler wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "jkreidler" <jason.kreidler(at)regalbeloit.com (jason.kreidler(at)regalbeloit.com)>
>
> Looks like Apple just released the iPad... Starts at $499, 1.5 lbs, 1/2" thick.

<http://i.engadget.com/2010/01/27/live-from-the-apple-tablet-latest-creation-event/?sort=newest&refresh=30>

has some pics and details of the presentation.

-Dj

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 3:15 pm    Post subject: Re: OT - I want one - Apple iPad Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 8:47 am    Post subject: OT - I want one - Apple iPad Reply with quote

My understanding is that there is only one main model, with three different memory levels (16, 32 and 64GB) and all of them can get the 3G option. Nothing ships until later march or early april, so they will all be the same. If you get the $130 3G option, then you will have a true GPS as well. With ForeFlight, if you have the plates downloaded for the state you are in, if you hit the "location" button, it will show you the closest airports and then you can pick an approach plate that you already have cached, so for those who want that feature, you will have it. I think this, with foreflight, which will already run on it, would be a great EFB upgrade from the iPhone/iPod Touch with its small screen. $75/year isn't bad, and you can also use it to check weather and file in your favorite format or from your favorite website. Bummer there isn't a camera for those screen shots of your panel while flying, though.

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On Jan 27, 2010, at 5:51 PM, Dj Merrill wrote:

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On 1/27/2010 5:34 PM, Danny Riggs wrote:
> My son-in-law says the high end model coming out in April will have
> wifi, blue tooth and gps. Dan


The low end ones all have that, similar to the iTouch. The high end
ones will also have 3G (data over the cell phone networks), similar to
the iPhone.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:22 am    Post subject: OT - I want one - Apple iPad Reply with quote

That statement doesn't make sense to me. Can you elaborate?

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 1:01 pm    Post subject: OT - I want one - Apple iPad Reply with quote

Exactly. The GPS in an iphone is a real GPS. If you don't
have an iphone with a GPS, then it uses cellular and
Wi-Fi info to approximate position. Skyhook is a company
that will take your GPS coordinate of your Access Points,
and you can send them lists from all over town if you wish,
from war driving, or from your home/company. Then if your
ipod touch or iphone is receiving Wi-Fi from that MAC address,
it will show that as your location. I sent Skyhook my home
AP's mac addresses and then my ipod touch (no GPS) would
show the proper location.

So, using Cellphone data and Wi-Fi is the NON-GPS way to
find location. When the iphone uses GPS, it's really
using GPS....so you don't need to be in range of anything
ground-based to use it. I used my iphone GPS over Montana
at 10-16,000' and it worked great.

And of course the other option that I've mentioned before
is for ANY of the devices (maybe later the iTampon too),
if you jailbreak it, you can get ROQYBT bluetooth stack
and then use that to connect to a bluetooth GPS. This
way even your measly ipod touch can have true GPS
to show your real position.

Neat stuff, for sure. It'll be interesting what the
iTampon really offers....if it offers true GPS that would
be great. I'm sure the thing will be jailbroken within
a few weeks of release too, so many cool things would
come at that point.

Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD

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That statement doesn't make sense to me. Can you elaborate?

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 1:25 pm    Post subject: OT - I want one - Apple iPad Reply with quote

To add to Tim's write up - I used Motion-x in the citation and it was
reading satellites accurately at 365 mph at 12500. I haven't used it higher
yet.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 1:30 pm    Post subject: OT - I want one - Apple iPad Reply with quote

The top end model I-Pad (still can't say that with a straight face) is stated to have a real GPS. My first I-Phone got location from the cell towers and whichever WiFi it could bootleg off of. The 3G went to a true GPS. At least that's my understanding!

[quote] Date: Mon C 1 Feb 2010 14:59:37 -0600
From: Tim(at)myrv10.com
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Subject: Re: RV10-List: OT - I want one - Apple iPad

--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com>

Exactly. The GPS in an iphone is a real GPS. If you don't
have an iphone with a GPS C then it uses cellular and
Wi-Fi info to approximate position. Skyhook is a company
that will take your GPS coordinate of your Access Points C
and you can send them lists from all over town if you wish C
from war driving C or from your home/company. Then if your
ipod touch or iphone is receiving Wi-Fi from that MAC address C
it will show that as your location. I sent Skyhook my home
AP's mac addresses and then my ipod touch (no GPS) would
show the proper location.

So C using Cellphone data and Wi-Fi is the NON-GPS way to
find location. When the iphone uses GPS C it's really
using GPS....so you don't need to be in range of anything
ground-based to use it. I used my iphone GPS over Montana
at 10-16 C000' and it worked great.

And of course the other option that I've mentioned before
is for ANY of the devices (maybe later the iTampon too) C
if you jailbreak it C you can get ROQYBT bluetooth stack
and then use that to connect to a bluetooth GPS. This
way even your measly ipod touch can have true GPS
to show your real position.

Neat stuff C for sure. It'll be interesting what the
iTampon really offers....if it offers true GPS that would
be great. I'm sure the thing will be jailbroken within
a few weeks of release too C so many cool things would
come at that point.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 1:50 pm    Post subject: OT - I want one - Apple iPad Reply with quote

Not sure which way you were arguing this so I thought I would clarify my statement. Very Happy

The iPhone/iPad both have fully functioning GPS's, the only difference is the iPhone and iFemineProduct w/cellular can use Assisted GPS which is just a fancy way for looking up the cell towers coordinates it has a lock on so it can tell the GPS to "start here" for the satellites overhead and give you the dot on the map faster.

Quazi location based lookup via WiFi is VERY hit and miss and, as you said, requires the MAC of the access point to be officially registered with location or else it will default to the owner of the IP range and where they say you are. Which in the case of Charter and my house, that's about a 40 mile difference.

Lots of different technologies being mixed together just so the p0rn adds in your browser can tell you about the hot singles in "insert your location" town. I don't know about the rest of you but I'm durn sure that those women do not exist where they say they do!

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 1:54 pm    Post subject: OT - I want one - Apple iPad Reply with quote

So now we can cay our iPad's have wings when we use them
in the plane, too. Smile I think you're right...the 3G
was the first model with GPS.

Hopefully your iPad will be more useful than one week
every 28 days though.

Hmmm, that coincides with chart cycles too...28 days...
interesting.

iPad/iPon, whatever...
Tim
Danny Riggs wrote:
[quote] The top end model I-Pad (still can't say that with a straight face) is
stated to have a real GPS. My first I-Phone got location from the cell
towers and whichever WiFi it could bootleg off of. The 3G went to a true
GPS. At least that's my understanding!

> Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 14:59:37 -0600
> From: Tim(at)myrv10.com
> To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: OT - I want one - Apple iPad
>
>
>
> Exactly. The GPS in an iphone is a real GPS. If you don't
> have an iphone with a GPS, then it uses cellular and
> Wi-Fi info to approximate position. Skyhook is a company
> that will take your GPS coordinate of your Access Points,
> and you can send them lists from all over town if you wish,
> from war driving, or from your home/company. Then if your
> ipod touch or iphone is receiving Wi-Fi from that MAC address,
> it will show that as your location. I sent Skyhook my home
> AP's mac addresses and then my ipod touch (no GPS) would
> show the proper location.
>
> So, using Cellphone data and Wi-Fi is the NON-GPS way to
> find location. When the iphone uses GPS, it's really
> using GPS....so you don't need to be in range of anything
> ground-based to use it. I used my iphone GPS over Montana
> at 10-16,000' and it worked great.
>
> And of course the other option that I've mentioned before
> is for ANY of the devices (maybe later the iTampon too),
> if you jailbreak it, you can get ROQYBT bluetooth stack
> and then use that to connect to a bluetooth GPS. This
> way even your measly ipod touch can have true GPS
> to show your real position.
>
> Neat stuff, for sure. It'll be interesting what the
> iTampon really offers....if it offers true GPS that would
> be great. I'm sure the thing will be jailbroken within
> a few weeks of release too, so many cool things would
> come at that point.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
>
>
>
> RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:
> >
<rvbuilder(at)sausen.net>
> >
> > That statement doesn't make sense to me. Can you elaborate?
> >
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 1:59 pm    Post subject: OT - I want one - Apple iPad Reply with quote

Let me clarify one thing in my clarification. Smile There is still a lot of discussion on if the non cellular version has the GPS chip because Apple has been somewhat vague about the specs (can anyone figure out if it will read PDF's). Looks to be a general 50/50 split between it does and doesn't. I'm giving iSteve the benefit of the doubt in that they were wise enough to include it. Then again, no camera and the iPhone OS. Maybe not. Razz

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 2:07 pm    Post subject: OT - I want one - Apple iPad Reply with quote

Tim,

I understood the iPad comes "unlocked". Would it still require jailbreak to do what you propose?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 2:19 pm    Post subject: OT - I want one - Apple iPad Reply with quote

I would like the iPad with wings for greater protection during heavier
flowing weather months.

Geoff

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 2:27 pm    Post subject: OT - I want one - Apple iPad Reply with quote

Unlocking is just making it carrier independent.
Jailbreaking is hacking it so that you can use the OTHER
app stores and download or buy some of the other apps that
are available but not through apple. There are many many
cool things available that you can't get from Apple, hence
the urge to jailbreak. That bluetooth GPS stack is just
one of them.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 2:34 pm    Post subject: OT - I want one - Apple iPad Reply with quote

Darn sure none of the women around here look that good.
Well C ummmm C except for the wives and girlfriends of course!

[quote] From: rvbuilder(at)sausen.net
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Mon C 1 Feb 2010 15:47:49 -0600
Subject: RE: OT - I want one - Apple iPad

--> RV10-List message posted by: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder(at)sausen.net>

Not sure which way you were arguing this so I thought I would clarify my statement. Very Happy

The iPhone/iPad both have fully functioning GPS's C the only difference is the iPhone and iFemineProduct w/cellular can use Assisted GPS which is just a fancy way for looking up the cell towers coordinates it has a lock on so it can tell the GPS to "start here" for the satellites overhead and give you the dot on the map faster.

Quazi location based lookup via WiFi is VERY hit and miss and C as you said C requires the MAC of the access point to be officially registered with location or else it will default to the owner of the IP range and where they say you are. Which in the case of Charter and my house C that's about a 40 mile difference.

Lots of different technologies being mixed together just so the p0rn adds in your browser can tell you about the hot singles in "insert your location" town. I don't know about the rest of you but I'm durn sure that those women do not exist where they say they do!

Michael

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 2:36 pm    Post subject: OT - I want one - Apple iPad Reply with quote

What I understood from the "unlocked" was that we can now use other carriers than just AT&T. That will be a good start!

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Date: Mon C 1 Feb 2010 17:05:57 -0500

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 3:36 pm    Post subject: OT - I want one - Apple iPad Reply with quote

I don't know if this was already covered, but what I read was that the GPS is built into the 3G chipset, so the models (any one of them) that has the 3G feature, will also have the actual GPS feature. It will be interesting to see if they allow more Bluetooth devices like the GPS that Tim was mentioning. They are going to work with Bluetooth keyboards, so they may have other functionality as well, as they should.

They are already going to be unlocked, so you should be able to get 3G service from providers other than AT&T, as long as they are compatible (I remember somebody mentioning that some 3G services are a different frequency).

As to the altitude that somebody mentioned, I can't imagine they will have any problem at altitudes above 10,000, since it is all solid state.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 6:36 pm    Post subject: OT - I want one - Apple iPad Reply with quote

Problem with that is it is using a new “micro” sim card. Wanna guess who he only carrier is using that sim type for the moment…..

Michael

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What I understood from the "unlocked" was that we can now use other carriers than just AT&T. That will be a good start!

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I understood the iPad comes "unlocked". Would it still require jailbreak to do what you propose?

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