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				|  Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:05 am    Post subject: Altimeter settings /configuration UK derogation |   |  
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				| Hi! UK Opertors.
Here's the latest CAA Edict :-
 Approval Under a Derogation Authorised Pursuant to Article 8(3) of Council
 Regulation (EEC) No. 3922/1991 In Respect of OPS 1.652(C) Sensitive Pressure
 Altimeter Having Counter Drum-pointer or Equivalent Presentation
 1) A Commission Decision dated 3 March 2010 authorises the United Kingdom to
 derogate
 from Annex III of Council Regulation (EC) No. 3922/1991 ("EU-OPS") with
 respect to
 OPS 1.652(c). The Commission Decision is annexed to this approval.
 2) In accordance with that Commission Decision and pursuant to article 8(3)
 of Council
 Regulation (EEC) No. 3922/1991, the Civil Aviation Authority on behalf of
 the United
 Kingdom approves, in derogation from the provisions of OPS 1.652(c), any
 operator
 operating under an Air Operator's Certificate issued in accordance with
 EU-OPS to
 operate at or below 10,000 feet/flight level 100 with aeroplanes equipped
 with two
 sensitive pressure altimeters calibrated in feet with sub-scale settings,
 calibrated in
 hetropascals/millibars, adjusted for any barometric pressure likely to be
 set during flight
 without having counter drum-pointer or equivalent presentation.
 3) This approval is granted subject to the operator implementing measures
 acceptable to
 the Civil Aviation Authority to ensure that flight crews are aware of and
 trained to read
 correctly the type of altimeters referred to in paragraph 2 in normal and
 abnormal
 circumstances.
 4) This approval shall have effect from the date hereof, until varied,
 suspended or revoked.
 G B Parker
 For the Civil Aviation Authority
 16 March
 Can anyone please enlighten me as to what the "bare bones" of this means,
 please.
 Regards
 Bob Harrison  G-PTAG
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:25 am    Post subject: Altimeter settings /configuration UK derogation |   |  
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				| Hi Bob,
 It means that UK Public Transport Operators have an exemption to operate
 with the older altimeters that are not approved under JAR OPS.
 The altimeters that comply with ICAO and JAR OPS 1 are the counter
 drum-pointer display which display digital altitude with the resolution of
 100ft.
 
 What does it mean to you.......
 
 Nothing,
 
 You are not public transport operating under an Air Operators Certificate.
 
 You do not operate your aircraft under JAR OPS......  there's lucky.
 
 Regards,
 Mike
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 12:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Altimeter settings /configuration UK derogation |   |  
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				| Ah!
 A perfect example of how a common language divides the UK and the
 US!!!
 
 If even Englishmen in the UK can't understand it, what are those Brussellonians
 up to?
 
 "Approval Under a Derogation Authorised Pursuant to Article 8(3) of Council
 Regulation (EEC) No. 3922/1991 In Respect of OPS 1.652(C) Sensitive Pressure
 Altimeter Having Counter Drum-pointer or Equivalent Presentation
 1) A Commission Decision dated 3 March 2010 authorises the United Kingdom to
 derogate  from Annex III of Council Regulation (EC) No. 3922/1991 ("EU-OPS") with
 respect to  OPS 1.652(c). The Commission Decision is annexed to this approval.
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 12:50 pm    Post subject: Altimeter settings /configuration UK derogation |   |  
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				| Thanks Mike.! I can delete it then! However as has been drummed into me
ignorance is no protection from the law !
 Bob H  G-PTAG
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 7:49 am    Post subject: Altimeter settings /configuration UK derogation |   |  
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 Ah!
 
 A perfect example of how a common language divides the UK and the
 US!!!
 
 If even Englishmen in the UK can't understand it, what are those Brussellonians
 up to?
 
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 There are many Finnish people...
 
 Raimo
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:57 am    Post subject: Re: Altimeter settings /configuration UK derogation |   |  
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				| Hi Raimo,
 Are you saying that Finnish people understand this legal gibberish??
 
 I have a number of friends in Helsinki and while they usually understand
 me, I don't believe they would handle BrusX any better than I.
 
 Ira
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 12:05 pm    Post subject: Altimeter settings /configuration UK derogation |   |  
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				| Hi Ira
 
  	  | Quote: |  	  | Are you saying that Finnish people understand this legal gibberish??
 
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 no, I was trying to say "this legal gibberish" must have been produced by some Finnish bureaucrat  in Bryssel...
 They are very talent doing that, they can even produce Finnish text that nobody understands here. Ask your friends in Helsinki...
 
 Raimo from Finland
 OH-XRT #417
 
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