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		tonyrenshaw268(at)gmail.c Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 2:07 am    Post subject: Kill Switch and External Power Receptacle | 
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				Gidday,
 I am going to have my battery behind me, either under the baggage bay area on a shelf, or right back in the tail. I then intend on the power cables coming up to the passenger headrest where I have a "BIG RED BUTTON", kill switch.
 I want to kill all electrics in the flare prior to a crash landing forward of this switch. I am now thinking about an external power receptacle, and the issue of making a hatch near my battery, until I realised my heavy duty cables will be coming right up to my passenger headrest, so why not make this cable to the battery also act as a charging circuit, with a b***dy big hatch right beside it, the Stbd door. So, does anyone want to tell me "NOT" to do this? 
 Reg
 Tony Renshaw
 Sydney Aussie
 
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		raimo.toivio(at)rwm.fi Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 2:35 am    Post subject: Kill Switch and External Power Receptacle | 
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				Tony
 
 " I want to kill all electrics in the flare prior 
 to a crash landing"
 
 consider this:
 
 would you like to still have an operative stall 
 warner, gear warnings and other electric safety 
 equipments you have got used to have?
 would you still like to try to restart your 
 engine?
 
 What I did was I have two master switches: one 
 (mechanical one) is for a total black-out and 
 second one (a switch with a little and light 40 
 amperes relay) leaves all the safety equipments, 
 starter, clocks, Dynon recharging and theft alarm 
 operative.
 Normally after a flight I use last one and first 
 one only during long off-season periods.
 
 Before possible emergency landing I have a plan to 
 use last one but if I assume all The Hope has 
 gone, I will use just before crash first one which 
 will cut everything.
 That is of course if I have time to do that or 
 even remember to do that...
 
 Terveisin, Raimo Toivio
 
 Europa XS Mono OH-XRT #417
 
 37500 Lempäälä
 
 p +358-3-3753 777
 f +358-3-3753 100
 
 toivio(at)fly.to
 www.rwm.fi
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 From: "Tony Renshaw" <tonyrenshaw268(at)gmail.com>
 Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 1:05 PM
 To: <europa-list(at)matronics.com>
 Subject: Kill Switch and External 
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  <tonyrenshaw268(at)gmail.com>
 
  Gidday,
  I am going to have my battery behind me, either 
  under the baggage bay area on a shelf, or right 
  back in the tail. I then intend on the power 
  cables coming up to the passenger headrest where 
  I have a "BIG RED BUTTON", kill switch.
  I want to kill all electrics in the flare prior 
  to a crash landing forward of this switch. I am 
  now thinking about an external power receptacle, 
  and the issue of making a hatch near my battery, 
  until I realised my heavy duty cables will be 
  coming right up to my passenger headrest, so why 
  not make this cable to the battery also act as a 
  charging circuit, with a b***dy big hatch right 
  beside it, the Stbd door. So, does anyone want 
  to tell me "NOT" to do this?
  Reg
  Tony Renshaw
  Sydney Aussie
 
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		fklein(at)orcasonline.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 9:41 pm    Post subject: Kill Switch and External Power Receptacle | 
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				On May 20, 2010, at 3:34 AM, Raimo Toivio wrote:
 
  	  | Quote: | 	 		   What I did was I have two master switches: one (mechanical one) is  
  for a total black-out and second one (a switch with a little and  
  light 40 amperes relay) leaves all the safety equipments, starter,  
  clocks, Dynon recharging and theft alarm operative. Normally after a  
  flight I use last one and first one only during long off-season  
  periods.
 
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 Raimo,
 
 ..and where have you located these puppies?
 
 Fred
 
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		raimo.toivio(at)rwm.fi Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 1:51 am    Post subject: Kill Switch and External Power Receptacle | 
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				Fred,
 
 Puppy # 1 (mechanical, big and red) is just behind 
 and near an accu. In my case it means it is over 
 the  banana tray.
 When flying, it is not very erconomical to use it 
 by P1 but it is reachable by stretching the safety 
 belts a little.
 On the other hand I will never use it when flying, 
 emergency or not. That is it.
 I elected this place to minimize cabel weight and 
 labour also.
 One extra benefit: this mechanical key is 
 removable.
 That is a safety effect also.
 When the key is removed, it is much more hard to 
 steal my Europa (in fact that thief would be quite 
 skilled and/or mad if he (I point *he*)  desided 
 to fly my Mono out. Would be an interesting 
 experience to see it!).
 The key is secured by detachable lanyard (that is 
 against a mad passenger "hey what is this?" and 
 "where it is now?").
 
 Puppy #2 (electric rocking switch with 40A 
 automotive lightweight light relay) locates as per 
 Europa = panel´s left-down corner.
 I forgot to mention: of course it leaves also 
 trimming system operative when switched off.
 When switched off, I have to switch also trim 
 circuit breaker open to switch off trim power when 
 parked.
 During emergency, it is still operative because CB 
 is on.
 
 BTW I have no C of G problems at all; I have a 
 fore located accu and The Airmaster CS prop and 
 "some" other fore located gizmos.
 With an empty tank and a passenger 140 kg /62 lbs 
 (!) C of G is still at fore limit.
 
 I am sure you understand Finnish enough to follow 
 attached xls table.
 
 Terveisin, Raimo Toivio
 
 Europa XS Mono OH-XRT #417
 
 37500 Lempäälä
 
 p +358-3-3753 777
 f +358-3-3753 100
 
 toivio(at)fly.to
 www.rwm.fi
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 From: "Fred Klein" <fklein(at)orcasonline.com>
 Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 8:40 AM
 To: <europa-list(at)matronics.com>
 Subject: Re: Kill Switch and External 
 Power Receptacle
 
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  <fklein(at)orcasonline.com>
  On May 20, 2010, at 3:34 AM, Raimo Toivio wrote:
 
 > What I did was I have two master switches: one 
 > (mechanical one) is  for a total black-out and 
 > second one (a switch with a little and  light 
 > 40 amperes relay) leaves all the safety 
 > equipments, starter,  clocks, Dynon recharging 
 > and theft alarm operative. Normally after a 
 > flight I use last one and first one only during 
 > long off-season  periods.
 
  Raimo,
 
  ..and where have you located these puppies?
 
  Fred
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