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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:00 pm    Post subject: CAD disk and new Photos Reply with quote

I saw Craig mentioned in another post something about the new CAD drawings on CD that come with new pics. I have seen this somewhere before but can't remember where. Does anyone know how I go about getting them? Does anyone know of a P.O.C. at the company I can contact and request them? Also, does anyone remember how much they cost?
Thanks,
Mark


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 3:23 pm    Post subject: CAD disk and new Photos Reply with quote

Hey Now! Mark,

I had problems with the CD, something with their version of PDF encryption.
Could not read several folders on 3 different computers. I asked them about
it, they sent me a second CD copy, and the same issue. I sent them some more
details on the issue but Anita ignored it and never responded.
I have not seen the new format drawings, so if you decide to drop the coin,
give us all a review if they are worth it.

Here is a copy of the message:

For all of you who are building your own Zodiac 640 aircraft, you can now
upgrade your airframe drawings to the new CAD format. Cost is $150.00 which
includes shipping and an update CD ROM with more assembly photos. Please
call Anita at Zenair if you are interested in this offer. 705-526-2871. For
builder technical assistance, please contact Cleo King at Zenair or by email
at cleoking13(at)gmail.com.

www.zenair.com
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I saw Craig mentioned in another post something about the new CAD drawings
on CD that come with new pics. I have seen this somewhere before but can't
remember where. Does anyone know how I go about getting them? Does anyone
know of a P.O.C. at the company I can contact and request them? Also, does
anyone remember how much they cost?
Thanks,
Mark

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 4:20 pm    Post subject: Re: CAD disk and new Photos Reply with quote

Thanks Craig,
I'll check it out and post any updates I discover.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 5:54 pm    Post subject: CAD disk and new Photos Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 9:20 am    Post subject: Re: CAD disk and new Photos Reply with quote

Craig,
I just ordered my CAD disk and addressed the files not opening problem. Anita said they did finally address the issue and it has been resolved. She said it had something to do with how they were copying the files to the disk. I'm deployed right now, and go home on leave in mid-July. I won't get the disk until then, but I'll let you know if they've fixed it or not. If they have, I can e-mail you the files you have that won't open.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 12:51 pm    Post subject: Re: CAD disk and new Photos Reply with quote

Thanks, Very thoughtful of you. Too bad Zenair doesn't respect it's customers enough to follow up on their concerns by themselves.
Rolling Eyes
As I had sent a couple of e-mails to Anita expressing my concern over the issue. She just blew me off, no reply. Makes me hate to send them more money, but I'm hooked on the kit now.

C. Smith

Stay Safe!

BTW I am working out the issues for my 13b 250 hp rotary engine installation. here are some pics. Lightweight engine, and longer cowl make for a much better look. Kinda P-40ish. We may have to paint on some sharks teeth. Very Happy


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 1:41 am    Post subject: Re: CAD disk and new Photos Reply with quote

That thing looks and sounds great Craig! I'd love to keep up with your progress. I hear rotary engines are more efficient since the parts move continuously instead of stopping and reversing direction. How heavy are we talking? And is this an auto conversion? Fixed pitch or constant speed? Sorry I'm berating you with questions, but you've now tweaked my interest, and I can't stop thinking of the possibilities!

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:27 am    Post subject: Re: CAD disk and new Photos Reply with quote

super58d wrote:
That thing looks and sounds great Craig! I'd love to keep up with your progress. I hear rotary engines are more efficient since the parts move continuously instead of stopping and reversing direction.


It's not better efficiency, but reliability, fewer moving parts, no valves, significantly higher TBO. BSFC is slightly higher by about 5%, but you can burn auto-gas, big savings.

super58d wrote:
How heavy are we talking?


With lightweight aluminum end housings, I'm figuring installed FWF of 275lbs. That's including rad, cooling and accessories.

super58d wrote:
And is this an auto conversion?


Yes.

super58d wrote:
Fixed pitch or constant speed?


One can go either route, but my plan is to go with a vari-prop constant speed unit to maximize performance and efficiency.
Of course there is a lot more labor involved, as it is an auto conversion, and requires a lot of custom built stuff. But the results I believe will make up for the expended effort.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 12:13 am    Post subject: Re: CAD disk and new Photos Reply with quote

I like the sounds of it. If you don't mind sharing, maybe you can post your progress so we can follow along with you. (I do pretty well as far as mechanical inclination goes, I'm just not very original) Do you have a website?

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 1:47 pm    Post subject: Re: CAD disk and new Photos Reply with quote

My sporadic schedule (mostly dictated by cash flow) and the fact that my workshop is about 10 minutes from home, doesn't leave me much time to deal with documenting and posting. I have a tough enough time just getting out there.
I'm finally getting back to work, after close to a year and a half off, due to the economic catastrophe.
I don't have time to support a website either, however, if you want to learn more about the rotary and conversions go to: http://www.rotaryeng.net/
You can subscribe to the newsletter, but most of the basics is on the website. Read first, then ask questions thru the news letter.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 3:09 pm    Post subject: Re: CAD disk and new Photos Reply with quote

Hey all,
I recently received the CAD disk and brand new plans to go along with them. I was home on leave and only had time to browse through the plans, but I did note some areas they had highlighted for special attention to be paid to. I haven't noticed yet if any of the drawings have been updated in them. The disk works fine too. It seems to use Firefox (Internet Explorer if you use that I guess) as the medium for displaying all the photos and presentations. It doesn't go on the internet, all the info is on the disk. There are a TON of pics and quite a few .pdf docs that will come in very handy during the build. They did a decent job of breaking the info down into folders separating the major sections (rudder, stabilator, wings, fuselage, etc.). I would recommend spending the $150 to anyone who is less than halfway through the build.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 4:53 pm    Post subject: Re: CAD disk and new Photos Reply with quote

Did you get any errors opening any files? What operating system are you using, and what version of Adobe acrobat reader are you running please?
C. Smith


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 4:50 am    Post subject: Re: CAD disk and new Photos Reply with quote

Hey Craig,
Sorry for the long span in between replies. We had a lot going on there at the end of our deployment and a family emergency didn't help either. But, I'm finally back home and building again. Yay!! Anyway, I'm running Adobe reader 9 and Windows Vista Home Premium. I haven't had any trouble opening the photos on the disk. Some are standard JPEG images while others are put together into the pdfs as you know. There are a lot of very useful new photos. Just last night I was using them to reference the wing bellcrank assembly. (the directions weren't crystal clear) Whoever took the pics did a good job because they address all the right areas where questions might arise. I included as an attachment one of the smaller pdf files for the back seat/ luggage compartment so you can see if it opens on your computer. Hope this helps.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 10:00 am    Post subject: Re: CAD disk and new Photos Reply with quote

Thanks for getting back with us. The pdf opened fine for me, What kinds of CAD drawings are in the disc?
I'll probably purchase the disc after I get my truck sold.
By the way, I've been posting lots of pics to the Zenith builders and flyers club, they now even have a 640 group.
Sorry to hear about your tribulations, hope things have settled down for you. Have a wonderful Christmas, and we all thank you for your service to our country.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 3:57 pm    Post subject: Re: CAD disk and new Photos Reply with quote

Well, I looked pretty thoroughly and haven't found any CAD drawings on the disk yet. There are a lot of JPEG pics, .pdf files with pics and links to an explorer (or firefox, that's what I use) type browser that links all the photos through a menu tree of sorts. They did send a whole new set of drawings though. I haven't compared page by page with the ones I already had, but they look pretty much the same to me. If there's a difference between the two I haven't found them yet. The new photos are certain worth paying for, but if they charged that much money for a few photos and a new bundle of papers, that seems a bit excessive. I haven't had the time to look further into it yet, so I've been trying to be blissfully ignorant and not worry about it.

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