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deej(at)deej.net
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 Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:04 am Post subject: Post Replies |
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On 08/31/2010 09:05 AM, Tim Olson wrote:
| Quote: | These days, every mail reader I've used when you hit
reply, it top posts the reply, including "alpine", the
"new pine" text client. The idea is to keep your work
to a minimum, so you hit reply, and start typing.
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It may keep your work to a minimum, but it makes a huge mess out of the
email replies when people do this, which was the original complaint that
started off this thread. Whether top or bottom posting, if people do
not make that very little extra effort to trim the rest of the message,
it creates a lot more work for the rest of us to attempt to understand
the resulting mess of a message. Just hitting reply and start typing,
and not doing any trimming is a Bad Thing(tm).
In other words, a very little amount of extra work on the part of
person replying to TRIM, saves work for ALL of the people reading and
attempting to understand the reply, which added together exceeds the
little extra work it would take for the person replying to trim the message.
Net sum = trimming the message saves the most amount of work for
everyone involved.
| Quote: | I receive often over 100 emails at work a day, and my
Thunderbird threaded mail reader works awesome for
threaded emails.
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In Thunderbird, go to Account Settings, Composition and Addressing,
select "Automatically quite the original message when replying", and in
the drop down box select "Start my reply below the quote". See, it is
very easy for you to become a polite Internet Citizen, too! 
| Quote: | If that makes me a bad net citizen, oh well,
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*shrug* All we can do is try to educate people to be polite in our
society. If they choose to be rude, well, I guess there isn't much we
can do about it, but it sure isn't very nice to the other people.
I work in higher education, so reading comprehension is a big deal in
my environment. Using the English language means organizing your
message so that the recipients are reading from the top down for best
reading comprehension. If that means someone has to spend a little
extra effort in order to format their email properly so that the
recipient has a better chance of understanding the message, then that is
a good investment of time.
We wouldn't take lazy, sloppy shortcuts when building our airplanes, so
why do it when communicating with other builders about those airplanes?
-Dj
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AV8ORJWC
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Posts: 1149
Location: Aurora, Oregon "Home of VANS"
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| Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:38 am Post subject: Post Replies |
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Time Management on the part of the latest reply is why people don't trim. So why waste bandwidth on your lengthy closing signature line? I am a lower education style reader out in the untamed Wild West where the RV-10 was conceived..... James McClow where are you now - I miss the ole live build Cam? I am all confused most of the time now which I thought was just due to old age.
Speed of the Read... now that has marketing value.
John Cox
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From: Dj Merrill
Sent: Tue 8/31/2010 8:03 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Post Replies
[quote] Net sum = trimming the message saves the most amount of work for
everyone involved.
I work in higher education, so reading comprehension is a big deal in
my environment. Using the English language means organizing your
message so that the recipients are reading from the top down for best
reading comprehension. If that means someone has to spend a little
extra effort in order to format their email properly so that the
recipient has a better chance of understanding the message, then that is
a good investment of time.
We wouldn't take lazy, sloppy shortcuts when building our airplanes, so
why do it when communicating with other builders about those airplanes?
-Dj
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Dj Merrill - N1JOV
Glastar Sportsman 2+2 Builder #7118 N421DJ - http://deej.net/sportsman/
Grumman Yankee Driver N9870L - http://deej.net/yankee/
Join us on the New England Aviation Forums - http://forum.deej.net/
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simon(at)sertech.com.au
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| Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 6:23 pm Post subject: Post Replies |
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Come on guys, what's all the fuss.
Top posts are there because that is where you start reading AT THE TOP. As
for the rest, the solution is easy DON'T READ IT.
The bandwidth used on these text only messages is minimal.
Cheers
Simon
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ricksked(at)cox.net
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| Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:40 pm Post subject: Post Replies |
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Jeez I agree...this horse is dead, butchered and cooked well
done...I'm flying but don't the rest of you have airplanes to
build..you to Chris!!! You started this!!
Rick
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On Aug 31, 2010, at 7:18 PM, "Simon Wilson" <simon(at)sertech.com.au>
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Come on guys, what's all the fuss.
Top posts are there because that is where you start reading AT THE
TOP. As
for the rest, the solution is easy DON'T READ IT.
The bandwidth used on these text only messages is minimal.
Cheers
Simon
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woxofswa
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| Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 3:55 pm Post subject: Re: Post Replies |
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I don't know the mechanics but I just checked on the forum and had 10 threads involving the King Schools without any idea of which was the lead one and how the traffic followed.
If that example is what is meant by starting a new thread rather than replying to the original one, then my vote would be "no thanks". To me it makes much more sense to have one cascading thread per topic.
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pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 4:25 pm Post subject: Post Replies |
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I don't use the forum , but looked, and the original post is the last
one in the list of subject lines like: AOPA Online: King Schools owners
mistakenly detained, AOPA p
Newest posts are at the top of the list.
I also noticed that there were changes made in the subject line .....
which may account for the lack of 'thread'.
Linn
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On 9/1/2010 7:55 PM, woxofswa wrote:
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I don't know the mechanics but I just checked on the forum and had 10 threads involving the King Schools without any idea of which was the lead one and how the traffic followed.
If that example is what is meant by starting a new thread rather than replying to the original one, then my vote would be "no thanks". To me it makes much more sense to have one cascading thread per topic.
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Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse in progress
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cjhukill(at)cox.net
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| Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 5:04 am Post subject: post replies |
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Myron
A quote from Matt Dralle's guidelines: (everyone should review these from time to time).
- If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of
your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it
easy to find threads in the archive.
- When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your
response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the
reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that
quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive
can not be overstated!
Chris Hukill
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