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		sean(at)stephensville.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 7:48 am    Post subject: Blank Messages (was: iPad Mount update) | 
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				I noticed something similar that started just recently with the 
 Matronics lists.  Not sure if Matt changed anything recently, but...
 
 I use Thunderbird (on a Mac) and had to set my account to always use 
 plain text when sending emails to the matronics.com domain or they would 
 just show up as blank.  I never had to do this until about a month ago.  
 Maybe Matt could chime in with any suggestions.
 
 -Sean
 
 On 9/24/10 10:21 AM, Tim Olson wrote:
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  He's got something funky with his email program.  I am
  trying to pull it apart now and see if there is an attachment
  to view.  But here is the text I extracted.  I noticed the message
  had size, but just wasn't displaying....
  Tim
 
 
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		Tim Olson
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 8:03 am    Post subject: Blank Messages (was: iPad Mount update) | 
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				Actually, to be a friendly email person, it's a good idea
 to use only text email anyway, when possible.   In thunderbird
 you can still compose an HTML email if you hold SHIFT
 while you click "write" for a new email.
 
 The reason is, if you send HTML email, in most people's cases,
 the HTML email takes up more space than a text email does, but
 it gets worse, it also sends a text version of it and the
 recipient's viewer chooses which one to display.  So
 now you're increasing each message size by 2X just because
 you are sending HTML emails.
 
 Things like background images to emails, and stuff like
 that, are just a waste of space.
 
 Also, it's a little harder to embed malicious scripts into
 text-only emails.  So I set that as my default for all
 emails, and only send HTML when there is good reason.
 
 Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
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 On 9/24/2010 10:45 AM, Sean Stephens wrote:
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  I noticed something similar that started just recently with the
  Matronics lists. Not sure if Matt changed anything recently, but...
 
  I use Thunderbird (on a Mac) and had to set my account to always use
  plain text when sending emails to the matronics.com domain or they would
  just show up as blank. I never had to do this until about a month ago.
  Maybe Matt could chime in with any suggestions.
 
  -Sean
 
 
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		Matt Dralle Site Admin
  
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				 Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:04 am    Post subject: Blank Messages (was: iPad Mount update) | 
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				I haven't changed anything on the input message processing in quite a while.
 
 As has been pointed out, make sure to configure the email client to send "plain-text" only.  If the messages are showing up blank, the lack of a legitimate plain-text MIME section is almost always the cause.
 
 Matt Dralle
 Matronics List Admin
 
 
 At 08:45 AM 9/24/2010  Friday, you wrote:
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  I noticed something similar that started just recently with the Matronics lists.  Not sure if Matt changed anything recently, but...
 
 I use Thunderbird (on a Mac) and had to set my account to always use plain text when sending emails to the matronics.com domain or they would just show up as blank.  I never had to do this until about a month ago.  
 Maybe Matt could chime in with any suggestions.
 
 -Sean
 
 On 9/24/10 10:21 AM, Tim Olson wrote:
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 >He's got something funky with his email program.  I am
 >trying to pull it apart now and see if there is an attachment
 >to view.  But here is the text I extracted.  I noticed the message
 >had size, but just wasn't displaying....
 >Tim
 
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		Deems Davis
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 10:06 am    Post subject: Blank Messages (was: iPad Mount update) | 
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				Sorry for all of the white space, and Thanks Tim for parsing the 
 message and re-posting. I use T'bird on a pc and also occasionaly find 
 emails from matronics lists with empty text. I changed my send options 
 from (Auto Detect) to plain text, we'll see if that helps.
 
 Deems
 
 On 9/24/2010 8:45 AM, Sean Stephens wrote:
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   I noticed something similar that started just recently with the 
  Matronics lists.  Not sure if Matt changed anything recently, but...
 
  I use Thunderbird (on a Mac) and had to set my account to always use 
  plain text when sending emails to the matronics.com domain or they 
  would just show up as blank.  I never had to do this until about a 
  month ago.  Maybe Matt could chime in with any suggestions.
 
  -Sean
 
  On 9/24/10 10:21 AM, Tim Olson wrote:
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 > He's got something funky with his email program.  I am
 > trying to pull it apart now and see if there is an attachment
 > to view.  But here is the text I extracted.  I noticed the message
 > had size, but just wasn't displaying....
 > Tim
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		pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth. Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 11:09 am    Post subject: Blank Messages (was: iPad Mount update) | 
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				Tbird used to have an option of 'HTML and text' but it now seems like 
 we have to make a choice.  Bummer.
 Linn
 
 On 9/25/2010 1:29 PM, Deems Davis wrote:
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   Sorry for all of the white space, and Thanks Tim for parsing the 
  message and re-posting. I use T'bird on a pc and also occasionaly find 
  emails from matronics lists with empty text. I changed my send options 
  from (Auto Detect) to plain text, we'll see if that helps.
 
  Deems
 
  On 9/24/2010 8:45 AM, Sean Stephens wrote:
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 >
 >  I noticed something similar that started just recently with the 
 > Matronics lists.  Not sure if Matt changed anything recently, but...
 >
 > I use Thunderbird (on a Mac) and had to set my account to always use 
 > plain text when sending emails to the matronics.com domain or they 
 > would just show up as blank.  I never had to do this until about a 
 > month ago.  Maybe Matt could chime in with any suggestions.
 >
 > -Sean
 >
 > On 9/24/10 10:21 AM, Tim Olson wrote:
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 >> He's got something funky with his email program.  I am
 >> trying to pull it apart now and see if there is an attachment
 >> to view.  But here is the text I extracted.  I noticed the message
 >> had size, but just wasn't displaying....
 >> Tim
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