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				|  Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:26 am    Post subject: bringing Pitot and static tubes into fuselage |   |  
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				| Advice sort on the best place to bring the pitot and static lines (plus strobes) into the fuselage from the port wing. Concerned about reducing structural strength at the wrong point. Am tempted to bring in way back near the flap control rod opening as is tidy for the cockpit.
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 12:35 pm    Post subject: Re: bringing Pitot and static tubes into fuselage |   |  
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				| I didnt get any response on this, was it a stupid question? I still cant find out where they are supposed to come through.
 Advice appreciated.
 
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		| rlborger(at)mac.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 1:17 pm    Post subject: bringing Pitot and static tubes into fuselage |   |  
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				| Graeme,
 I understand there is no specific direction for the routing and exit of the pitot/static plumbing.  It's pretty much what ever works best for you.
 
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 Bob Borger
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 I didnt get any response on this, was it a stupid question? I still cant find out where they are supposed to come through.
 
 Advice appreciated.
 
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		| rparigoris 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 1:58 pm    Post subject: Re: bringing Pitot and static tubes into fuselage |   |  
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				| Hi Graeme
 You can look through this album for some ideas:
 http://www.europaowners.org/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=31838
 
 Ira and Bobs routing are at the beginning.
 
 My choice is scattered about the album a bit, but I ran 3 pneumatic hoses and wires on the port side and 1 pneumatic hose and wires on the starboard side.
 
 They are just aft of the spars and sneak between the fuse and the fuel tank and poke out through the space between the headrest and fuse side.
 
 Since I needed to get some of the port wires to the starboard headrest, I covered the wires with Teflon expando sleeve and snaked it above the fuel tank to the inside of the starboard headrest.
 
 I considered the aft route, but couldn't make it work as well for me . If you do consider the aft route keep in mind weakening it may cause the rear liftpin socket.
 
 Good luck
 Ron Parigoris
 
 Stbd 1 pneumatic hose and the other is for wires:
 http://www.europaowners.org/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=84429
 
 Port 3 pneumatic:
 http://www.europaowners.org/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=84432
 
 Port exiting between headrest and fuse:
 http://www.europaowners.org/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=31871
 
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		| jan_de_jong(at)casema.nl Guest
 
 
 
 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 3:45 pm    Post subject: bringing Pitot and static tubes into fuselage |   |  
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				| This is still in the future for me, but I think my plan is:
- from wing conduit outlet behind the spar over the spar (under fairing)
 to in front of spar
 - connections in front of spar
 - into fuselage behind seat
 - up to window sill by headrest avoiding motorglider wings spoiler
 actuator hole in the corner (fuselage side just below spar pin hole)
 - join window sill conduit
 I have the impression that this was once considered the standard way. It
 may be in the manual somewhere.
 Jan de Jong
 
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 I didnt get any response on this, was it a stupid question? I still cant find out where they are supposed to come through.
 
 Advice appreciated.
 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 3:45 pm    Post subject: bringing Pitot and static tubes into fuselage |   |  
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				| Graeme
I placed my tube into the fuselage rear of the fuselage stiffener.  Holding the tube in place alongside the stiffener, I added a cover rising to just under the fuselage side stiffener (door sill) of the fuselage where I made a triangular support for the sill which is also a tunnel for wiring and tubes which can go either way……
 JR Kit 327 in OZ
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 4:46 pm    Post subject: bringing Pitot and static tubes into fuselage |   |  
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				| Graeme
 Attached (I hope)  is a page from what I believe was the final ¨Europa
 News¨ from the old Company.
 
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 Advice appreciated.
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 1:55 am    Post subject: bringing Pitot and static tubes into fuselage |   |  
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				| Hi Graeme 
If you follow the workshop manual then the entry points for the Pitot/Static tube
 Are self explanatory, A gentle curve to the front of the spar with entry between the spar and  forward pins,  It will be well away from any hard points,
 
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 Pitot/static tube
 Drill two 1/4” diameter holes through the port fuselage side midway between the forward wing
 socket and the spar opening, making sure to keep them away from the seat belt mounting. These
 holes are for the pitot/static tubes.
 When rigging the aircraft the tubes will be led over the top of the spar tang
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