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		fritzsch(at)eskimo.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 2:04 pm    Post subject: Fuel Tank Sealing | 
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				I am about to embark upon the ProSeal adventure and have been scanning 
 the archives to learn about the process.  I still have some questions 
 that I would like to pose with respect to updates and technique.
 
 1.  I purchased my ProSeal in July with an expiration date of 1/11.  I 
 have kept it in the refrigerator since purchase.  I assume I will be OK 
 if I use it this month.
 2.  Applicators seem to range from plastic bags to syringes and cake 
 decorators.  What works best?
 3.  What are the tricky areas to watch for?
 4.  Do you have any recommendations on technique?
 5.  What precautions should I take?
 6.  What works best for cleaning up tools?
 
 Dave
 
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		Strasnuts
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 2:22 pm    Post subject: Fuel Tank Sealing | 
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				Dave,
 
 One idea I really liked (after I did my tanks) was to  assemble the tanks up 
 to but not including the rear baffle.  Let the proseal fully cure and test 
 the tanks for leaks using fluid.  This way you can easily fix any rivet or 
 rib leaks with the whole back baffle off.  After you are satisfied you 
 completely finish the tank and leak check again.  The rear baffle seams 
 easier to seal since you rivet on the outside of the flange anyway.
 
 
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		Tim Olson
 
 
  Joined: 25 Jan 2007 Posts: 2882
 
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				 Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 2:57 pm    Post subject: Fuel Tank Sealing | 
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				Your proseal should be just fine.  In fact, a year from now it
 will likely be just fine, if you keep it in the freezer.
 I kept mine in the deep freezer.  Years later it still works
 well.
 
 The applicator that works best is the one that you
 personally can use the easiest.  I found bags hard to load,
 but if you're careful, or if you have help, it should be
 easy.  Depends on number of hands.  I used things like
 popsicle sticks a lot...in 2 sizes.  Cake decorators wouldn't
 be bad, but you're going to need lots, so cost might
 keep that option down in some cases.  The proseal tubes
 can be the easiest, with the gun, but it'll cost more, too.
 The cans are nice to mix small batches for small projects.
 
 Wear gloves.
 
 MEK can help clean the tools....along with elbow grease.
 Again, wear gloves.
 
 Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
 
 On 1/1/2011 4:02 PM, Dave Fritzsche (Building) wrote:
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  I am about to embark upon the ProSeal adventure and have been scanning
  the archives to learn about the process. I still have some questions
  that I would like to pose with respect to updates and technique.
 
  1. I purchased my ProSeal in July with an expiration date of 1/11. I
  have kept it in the refrigerator since purchase. I assume I will be OK
  if I use it this month.
  2. Applicators seem to range from plastic bags to syringes and cake
  decorators. What works best?
  3. What are the tricky areas to watch for?
  4. Do you have any recommendations on technique?
  5. What precautions should I take?
  6. What works best for cleaning up tools?
 
  Dave
 
 
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		carl.froehlich(at)verizon Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 4:37 pm    Post subject: Fuel Tank Sealing | 
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				Dave,
 
 Some thoughts:
 1.  Take a wire brush (tooth brush size) and rough up all rib to skin, rib
 to baffle, skin to baffle contact areas.  Clean with lacquer thinner when
 done.
 2.  To mix the proseal, I used an old balance scale to weigh out the parts,
 then used two popsicle sticks chucked in a cordless drill to mix.
 3.  I used tough depressor sized sticks (available at your local craft
 store) to put a layer on each rib - like icing a cake.  Do not apply to the
 aft edge (baffle edge) until all the ribs are in and riveted.
 4.  As you finish riveting the rib to the skin, take an acid brush and put
 proseal on top of each shop head as well as along the rib to skin
 intersection.  If you put enough proseal on during the first step you should
 just be taking the excess that is squeezed out and smoothing it out.  I used
 standard acid brushes but cut down to about 1/4" long.  This made them stiff
 enough to move the proseal.
 5.  The rear baffle plate tends to be where people have problems.  Put a
 layer of proseal on the aft edge of each rib (like step #1), making sure you
 put extra dollops in the corners.  Put a layer on the top and bottom skins
 where the baffle will sit, and put a layer on the top/bottom baffle flange
 as well.  As you put in the baffle, check that you have proseal squeezing
 out of each rivet hole.  Rivet the baffle with proseal under each rivet
 head.
 6.  On the fuel sender, put proseal on each side of the sending unit gasket
 and under the sender mount screw heads.  Don't forget to put in a ground
 wire under one of the screw heads so that the sender has a ground.  Ground
 at the firewall.   Photo attached.
 7.  Put proseal on the tank fittings - on the inside of the tank.  Do this
 before you put in the baffle.  You want the proseal between the rib and the
 fitting, as well as on the fitting nuts to prevent anything from backing
 out.
 8.  Clean up with epoxy lacquer thinner (standard Lowes stuff).  Mineral
 spirits or paint thinner is not strong enough.  Don't get too carried away
 as you could wash out the proseal from under the rivet heads.  Try to keep
 the cloth only damp when  cleaning up around the rivets.
 9.  Where gloves and change frequently to minimize cleanup later.
 10.  One can of proseal will probably not be enough to do both tanks.
 
 Carl Froehlich
 RV-8A (600 hrs)
 RV-10 (finished plenum today)
 
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				 Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 6:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Fuel Tank Sealing | 
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				I used almost one full can per tank. I thinned with 5% toluene by weight(max 15%) for brushing on shop heads and joints before installing baffle. I used about 150 pairs of nitrile gloves, mek for cleaning, respirator plus good ventilation. I used small and large popsicle sticks. Tested to 1 psi after one week of curing using electronic manometer. Have fun!
 
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