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Kellym

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1706
Location: Sun Lakes AZ

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 4:44 pm Post subject: Cheap RV10

While I suspect a typo in the ad, this one also invites any FSDO 

inspector to yank the A./W certificate, since someone obviously had to 

lie on the application.

http://www.trade-a-plane.com/detail/1153643.html

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Tom Biggs

Joined: 01 Oct 2010
Posts: 13

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 5:03 pm Post subject: Re: Cheap RV10

Says $190k in the text. Must be a typo.

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rv10builder(at)verizon.ne
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 5:11 pm Post subject: Cheap RV10

2009 Vans RV-10, 52 Hrs, pro built, new & cert IO-540 Lycoming, Hartsell CS, 

Advan. Elect. EFIS, Garmin 496 6PS, Icom IC-A200 Com, Bendix/King trans, 

KT76-A, wheel pants incl. $190,000



The 19K is a typo but saying it is "pro built" (which I assume is what you 

mean about the FSDO?) tells a potential buyer that the guy that built it 

thought he did a "professional level" job building the plane.

All subject to intepretation. I can tell you that there are things I have 

done that were basically repairing a "professional job" since it was subpar 

for me, so technically if I sold that piece I could say it was 

professionally repaired..



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jesse(at)saintaviation.co
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 5:25 pm Post subject: Cheap RV10

In the Item Description he added a Zero, so I think the price listed above is a typo.



do not archive



Jesse Saint

Saint Aviation, Inc.

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C: 352-427-0285

F: 815-377-3694



On Jan 7, 2011, at 7:37 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote:



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 While I suspect a typo in the ad, this one also invites any FSDO inspector to yank the A./W certificate, since someone obviously had to lie on the application.

 

 

 http://www.trade-a-plane.com/detail/1153643.html

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Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2882

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:07 pm Post subject: Cheap RV10

You also gotta love it when the people don't even know the

name of their EFIS and stuff like that.... or is there

now an Advan. Elec. EFIS out there that just came to market?

Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD

do not archive

On 1/7/2011 6:37 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   



 While I suspect a typo in the ad, this one also invites any FSDO

 inspector to yank the A./W certificate, since someone obviously had to

 lie on the application.

 http://www.trade-a-plane.com/detail/1153643.html

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Kelly McMullen

Joined: 16 Apr 2008
Posts: 1188
Location: Sun Lakes AZ

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:20 pm Post subject: Cheap RV10

More of why I suspect he didn't build it.



On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 7:03 PM, Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com (Tim(at)myrv10.com)> wrote:

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		   --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com (Tim(at)myrv10.com)>

 

 You also gotta love it when the people don't even know the

 name of their EFIS and stuff like that.... or is there

 now an Advan. Elec. EFIS out there that just came to market?

 

 

 Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD

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jesse(at)saintaviation.co
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:22 pm Post subject: Cheap RV10

Maybe it's the new EEFIS (Electronic Electronic Flight Instrument System).  I hear those are really nice.

Jesse Saint

Saint Aviation, Inc.

jesse(at)saintaviation.com

C: 352-427-0285

F: 815-377-3694

On Jan 7, 2011, at 9:03 PM, Tim Olson wrote:

 	  Quote: 	

 You also gotta love it when the people don't even know the

 name of their EFIS and stuff like that.... or is there

 now an Advan. Elec. EFIS out there that just came to market?

 Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD

 do not archive

 On 1/7/2011 6:37 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote:

> 

> 

> While I suspect a typo in the ad, this one also invites any FSDO

> inspector to yank the A./W certificate, since someone obviously had to

> lie on the application.

> 

> 

> http://www.trade-a-plane.com/detail/1153643.html

>

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Kelly McMullen

Joined: 16 Apr 2008
Posts: 1188
Location: Sun Lakes AZ

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:25 pm Post subject: Cheap RV10

I guess it is open to interpretation. 

I read it to say he hired a professional to build it and did not do it himself, contrary to the amateur built rule. 

I suppose it could also mean he is a professional and built it himself for his education and recreation in keeping with the spirit of the rule, or as you say, he is an amateur claiming to have done a professional job. Or he hired professional assistance to help him do a professional job.

 

On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 6:09 PM, Pascal <rv10builder(at)verizon.net (rv10builder(at)verizon.net)> wrote:

[quote] --> RV10-List message posted by: "Pascal" <rv10builder(at)verizon.net (rv10builder(at)verizon.net)>

 

 2009 Vans RV-10, 52 Hrs, pro built, new & cert IO-540 Lycoming, Hartsell CS, Advan. Elect. EFIS, Garmin 496 6PS, Icom IC-A200 Com, Bendix/King trans, KT76-A, wheel pants incl. $190,000

 

 The 19K is a typo but saying it is "pro built" (which I assume is what you mean about the FSDO?) tells a potential buyer that the guy that built it thought he did a "professional level" job building the plane.

  All subject to interpretation. I can tell you that there are things I have done that were basically repairing a "professional job" since it was subpar for me, so technically if I sold that piece I could say it was professionally repaired..

  

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rv10builder(at)verizon.ne
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 7:14 pm Post subject: Cheap RV10

Weâ€™re saying the same thing Kelly, what I was getting at is that if a FSDO  came after him he could say he did it, more than likely the FSDO would not come  after him in Hoxie however. BTW his co builder was Don Ammons, supposedly his  plane was in the 2010 Vans Calendar for the month of December.

 I think itâ€™s great that the â€œwheel pantsâ€ are included!

 Pascal  

   From: Kelly McMullen (apilot2(at)gmail.com) 

 Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 6:15 PM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com) 

 Subject: Re: Cheap RV10

  



 I  guess it is open to interpretation. 

I read it to say he hired a professional  to build it and did not do it himself, contrary to the amateur built rule. 

I  suppose it could also mean he is a professional and built it himself for his  education and recreation in keeping with the spirit of the rule, or as you say,  he is an amateur claiming to have done a professional job. Or he hired  professional assistance to help him do a professional job.



 On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 6:09 PM, Pascal <rv10builder(at)verizon.net (rv10builder(at)verizon.net)>  wrote:

 [quote]--> RV10-List message posted by: "Pascal" <rv10builder(at)verizon.net (rv10builder(at)verizon.net)>



2009 Vans RV-10, 52 Hrs,    pro built, new & cert IO-540 Lycoming, Hartsell CS, Advan. Elect. EFIS,    Garmin 496 6PS, Icom IC-A200 Com, Bendix/King trans, KT76-A, wheel pants incl.    $190,000



The 19K is a typo but saying it is "pro built" (which I assume    is what you mean about the FSDO?) tells a potential buyer that the guy that    built it thought he did a "professional level" job building the plane.

All    subject to interpretation. I can tell you that there are things I have done    that were basically repairing a "professional job" since it was subpar for me,    so technically if I sold that piece I could say it was professionally    repaired..



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